I'll be really honest, our viewcount is not that much at all
And even our Twitch...
The amount of people I think that watch our Twitch
Is I think around 1000 maximum
Like when it comes down to the viewbotting problem
Its a really really annoying one, because its very hard for me to prove that its not me doing it
The closest to what I can come is e-mail
E-mails back and forth to Twitch
Reputation is quite important
Certainly considering all the charity stuff I'm doing
And this entire viewbotting stuff, like honestly when you look at it
Like some people might say: "Oh you are benefitting from it"
But I would rather say that it has caused more damage than anything
You know how you would measure those numbers? Because if you would...
I can actually give arguments why it has more damage than good
And the thing is I didn't really
Come and go public about it, because I tried to fix it, I messaged Twitch
I talked to then, I said like can you please
I begged them to actually
Put the views equal to the chatters
And they say: "That's not possible to do"
When you read up on it 90% of everybody is saying that I'm doing it [the viewbotting]
I don't know what I can do about it, maybe you have an idea
But ofcourse, if you see me as being guilty and this is all a strategy
Then of course, yeah like then...
Then we are in a stalemate
Because I really don't know what to do
Sure, I guess the reason why...
Me looking at it, the only thing is like in terms of just looking at it from numbers
I guess its possible that other streamers have been adversely affected
In that they won't associate themselves with you because of the viewbotting
But like, your numbers have gone up
Like if you would have looked at Twinge, I linked you this
Just recording your average viewership was anywere from 200 to 500 viewers on average
And now after the viewbotting
You have like 2 to 3 times as many chatters now as you used to viewers
So you are starting... You are pulling lot more legitimate viewers
And publicity as a result to the viewbotting
Even if you just, you know
The thing is, to which extent does this exposure
Make up for the damage
Like if you look at how everything is developing and unfolding
Its pretty bad, like...
My reputation is heavily being damaged
And that is a reality, and I know that...
That even calls like this
Where I talk about it, won't fix it
90% already believe... They have already made up their mind
Either its someone that is damaging... Doing it on purpose
Or it is uuhm...
Its either that or its someone that is trying to help the charity but I don't think that is the case, because
All the stuff that is going on is just crazy
But I don't know! I don't know who is doing it, like if I could...
If I could figure our where the proxies are coming from
If that can be tracked back to a server or whatever
I don't fucking know, it's more easy to figure out where it comes from
But like honestly, in my position, I have no clue what to do
Its that simple
The viewership on Twitch is low...
The reach on YouTube is pretty low
Concerning the amount of subscribers
And you're trying to launch a new platform that you need to get eyes on to attract other streamers to
I mean so either...
You guys, or a friend of yours or whatever
Started viewbotting the channel for publicity
Knowing that it would cause some damage to your reputation
Or you have an anti-fan that is spending hundreds of dollars a month to just...
Viewbot you for months and months and months
Like the bias is kind of hard there
Well, the thing is still what you have to know is
Like when you just look at the actual statistics and the added value that the viewbots would give me
In my situation
Compared to the added value that I could be getting from
A clean reputation and having like... the entire Ethiopian relief efforts
They just don't compare
I bet like... I bet we lost a lot of exposure because of the viewbotting
Like I'm actually sure about that
Yea this reputation is really...
Is haunting me, I mean like people like Forsen
Like you, or Amaz, or like uuhm
Or like Reckful would probably already be using G4G if it wasn't for all this botting bullshit
If you go and you just look up
Like go check out Sodapoppin's Reddit!
Everybody is saying that he basically signed a deal with the devil!
And that is because of the viewbotting, so like...
If I just look at all this stuff and I look at all this
All this backfire that I would...
That I would fully know upfront that would happen
Because I'm already a controversial persona
Like uuhm... Why would I do it like this, and not just fake it with chatters?
Like that is the thing, because its not so hard
I mean couldn't... I mean to take that same argument kind of as absurd
Couldn't you just say then if another person was doing that, that they would add chatters as well?
I mean why wouldn't another person viewbotting you add chatters knowing that people know that you are smarter?
To try to make it look more like you did it
Because if you add chatters then it doesn't backfire, because people think its legit
I mean I think there are
But there are streamers that add chatters to the viewbots and people know...
That they are still not...
No you add checked activity
No I understand how it works, but I'm telling you...
That Massan and the HearthStone industry has done this stuff
And people have gone through, like the bots...
And they find the chatters and they can see like: "Oh this guy is very clearly a chatbot"
Because they all say like random similar lines
I think more than 50% of the entire Twitch viewerbase is inflated
And a lot of people are using bots
A lot of people
Most of the top streamers are using bots right now
And I never called them out, I never bring it up
It's not my place to do so
Moving on then from the viewbotting stuff
Going back into the specific numbers
When you say you've raised $3 million USD over the past years
That seems impossible to believe
Given the viewership that I've seen on YouTube and given the viewership that I've seen on your stream
We've had several events and all this money has been fundraised and is in this
Total of around $3 million USD
So with 4 to 5 times less viewership
You guys raised
5 times or 6 or 7 times as much money
As I would be capable of doing
So obviously I know that since you're pushing for charity maybe you can get a little bit more
How is it that with 1000 real viewers...
You are able to raise...
$100,000 in 19 days?
Like how am I able to raise $100,000 is because...
We are really good
At sellout out 4Head
And because we've been using G4G and G4G makes you tons of money
And why do they donate so much?
It's beause I have a very strong
Track record of doing filantropy
And charity, and it just attracts people
That are... You know, that have more money
If you guys were to make an alternate PayPal account and donate with that PayPal account
G2A would have no idea...
Yes indeed, indeed, I fully agree
But then what you need to do
Is instead of an alternative PayPal account
You need many onf them, because
In order to get $100K
Like if I just make 5 PayPal accounts
Like there is 5 people donating $10K
And if you look at the amount of transctions and the amount of people donating
We have a very big amount of people, we almost have to
We almost have to create an entire city
Of stolen identities
To make up for the amount of dontions we make
G2A has all the payment transactions
They have the countries, they have the friggin IP's, they have everything
They can just look into that and see is there Athene
That has been donating to himself?
Through VPN's or whatever, and I'll be honest
Like from this $100K I would say
Maybe $1000 is donated from us
Because we've been testing the platform
This is just text to speech on steroids!
Its the platform that is doing it
I would have no way raised $100K
If it wasn't for G4G
Okay well I donated yesterday $5 to Sodapoppin
To Sodapoppin or to the charity?
Well I did $2.50 to charity and $2.50 to Sodapoppin
Then you should have gotten in the mail for $2.50 a tax receipt
[Destiny searches for the receipt]
Oh you're right, okay that's good
Yeah I see it now it was in the spam
But it does include the info
Organization identification for Save The Children
Like we never were the middle man
Like even now with G2A Pay we are not the middle man at all
[Funds go directly to Save The Children]
I guess a lot of people are pointing to the fact that Sodapoppin was getting a lot of huge donations
From people that have never donated to him before
But I guess your argument to that would be
Because the platform is so lucrative it encourages us people to donate that might not have
No, I have to say the events definitely added
I've never taken a single cent from Save The Children
A single cent
I haven't taken
Here you see they day, right?
And I can just go back as you can see like
Like it first fetches the information
And you can see there is quite
Like March 2nd
Like this is all the charity
A lot to charity, like what you see here
Is when we were
Setting up for the charity
So these are the days we set up
Well we go back here, here the 20th
Is actually 1 day after the event
And now you're going to see the amounts for the events, here $10K
$5K, $3K, $2K
You see here all the amounts until the 1st
If you actually, well we actually sarted at the 31st
People can actually take screenshots and everything, I don't mind
And actually calculate it out
So yeah there you go, and I can also put this for the month
This is basically January
Here is where we did the event
Like uuhm, and March
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