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WELCOME BACK.

WELCOME BACK. DAVID IS STILL WITH US AND

DAVID IS STILL WITH US AND WERE JOINING BY DOCTOR ANDREW

WERE JOINING BY DOCTOR ANDREW BOGAN.

BOGAN. IM YOU HANDED OVER TO YOU,

IM YOU HANDED OVER TO YOU, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO PICK

WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO PICK THAT UP AND WHAT WOULD YOU

THAT UP AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO WHATS ARE

LIKE TO ADD TO WHATS ARE READY BEEN DISCUSSED?

READY BEEN DISCUSSED? >> I THINK YOUVE CAPTURED

>> I THINK YOUVE CAPTURED VERY WELL THE IMPORTANCE OF

VERY WELL THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING PREVALENCE TESTING AND

DOING PREVALENCE TESTING AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE

REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE.

ARE. I THINK THATS NOT KNOWN, I

I THINK THATS NOT KNOWN, I THINK STUDIES LIKE OURS WHICH

THINK STUDIES LIKE OURS WHICH CAN BE REPLICATED VERY QUICKLY

CAN BE REPLICATED VERY QUICKLY AROUND THE WORLD SHOULD BE

AROUND THE WORLD SHOULD BE DONE AND WILL HELP INFORM WHAT

DONE AND WILL HELP INFORM WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.

THE REAL NUMBERS LOOK LIKE. >> SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU

>> SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU TO COMMENT ON, THIS IS A

TO COMMENT ON, THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME, DECISIONS ARE

CRITICAL TIME, DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE ABOUT WHAT COMES

BEING MADE ABOUT WHAT COMES AFTER THE APRIL 30 NATIONAL

AFTER THE APRIL 30 NATIONAL GUIDELINES, THERES QUESTIONS

GUIDELINES, THERES QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE REOPEN OUR

ABOUT HOW DO WE REOPEN OUR ECONOMIES.

ECONOMIES. I JUST LIKE YOUR TAKE ON THE

I JUST LIKE YOUR TAKE ON THE TWO PLANS, LETS JUST START

TWO PLANS, LETS JUST START WITH THIS PLAN WHICH THERE

WITH THIS PLAN WHICH THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE

SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING LETS TEST EVERYONE,

SAYING LETS TEST EVERYONE, VIRUS TEST EVERYONE, AND THEN

VIRUS TEST EVERYONE, AND THEN WE CAN ISOLATE THE PEOPLE WHO

WE CAN ISOLATE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE VIRUS AND TRADE THEIR

HAVE THE VIRUS AND TRADE THEIR CONTACTS AND SO ON AND MANAGE

CONTACTS AND SO ON AND MANAGE THIS GOING FORWARD.

THIS GOING FORWARD. DOCTOR FACTORY SEEMS TO BE

DOCTOR FACTORY SEEMS TO BE VERY KEEN ON THAT APPROACH.

VERY KEEN ON THAT APPROACH. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT?

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT? >> SO TESTING IS IMPORTANT,

>> SO TESTING IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT

BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE A LOT OF PEOPLE

THERE MAY BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS

WHO HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS DISEASE AND YOU WILL NOT BE

DISEASE AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TEST FOR ACTIVE VIRUS

ABLE TO TEST FOR ACTIVE VIRUS IF TRADITIONAL TESTINGS BEEN

IF TRADITIONAL TESTINGS BEEN DONE.

DONE. YOUR ONLY BE ABLE TO TEST IF

YOUR ONLY BE ABLE TO TEST IF THEYVE HAD THE VIRUS LIKE THE

THEYVE HAD THE VIRUS LIKE THE ONE WE DID OR THE LABORATORY

ONE WE DID OR THE LABORATORY VERSION USED BASE DANFORD

VERSION USED BASE DANFORD RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW. BUT I DONT THINK ITS GOING

BUT I DONT THINK ITS GOING TO BE PRACTICAL IF THE NUMBERS

TO BE PRACTICAL IF THE NUMBERS OF INFECTION ARE AS LARGE AS

OF INFECTION ARE AS LARGE AS THEY MIGHT BE AS YOU SUGGESTED

THEY MIGHT BE AS YOU SUGGESTED EARLIER TO BE DOING THIS

EARLIER TO BE DOING THIS TESTING TESTING.

TESTING TESTING. I THINK THERES A VERY REAL

I THINK THERES A VERY REAL CHANCE THAT THIS DISEASE HAS

CHANCE THAT THIS DISEASE HAS PROGRESSED MUCH FURTHER THAN

PROGRESSED MUCH FURTHER THAN WE REALIZE BASED ON THE BIAS

WE REALIZE BASED ON THE BIAS OF HOW WE BEEN DOING TESTING

OF HOW WE BEEN DOING TESTING SO FAR, AND IF WERE ABLE TO

SO FAR, AND IF WERE ABLE TO DISCOVER THAT WAS THE CASE,

DISCOVER THAT WAS THE CASE, IM VERY HESITANT TO SAY THAT

IM VERY HESITANT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO

IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO CONTRACT TRACE EVERY SINGLE

CONTRACT TRACE EVERY SINGLE INFECTIOUS CONTACT.

INFECTIOUS CONTACT. >> THATS AN INCREDIBLY

>> THATS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT POINT.

IMPORTANT POINT. YOU MADE IT REALLY CLEARLY.

YOU MADE IT REALLY CLEARLY. WE HAVE TO UNDERLINE THAT

WE HAVE TO UNDERLINE THAT BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE

BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE DIRECTION OUR POLICYMAKERS ARE

DIRECTION OUR POLICYMAKERS ARE GOING IN.

GOING IN. THE OTHER ONE DAVID, ITS THIS

THE OTHER ONE DAVID, ITS THIS IDEA OF ANTI- BODY IMMUNITIES

IDEA OF ANTI- BODY IMMUNITIES CERTIFICATES TO SAY WELL IF

CERTIFICATES TO SAY WELL IF YOU HAVE IT YOU CAN GO BACK TO

YOU HAVE IT YOU CAN GO BACK TO WORK, BUT IF THE OTHER PERSON

WORK, BUT IF THE OTHER PERSON IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD HASNT HAD

IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD HASNT HAD THE VIRUS THEY STILL HAVE TO

THE VIRUS THEY STILL HAVE TO STAND THE SHUTDOWN.

STAND THE SHUTDOWN. WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT?

WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU

>> LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU COULDNT OF SAID IT BETTER

COULDNT OF SAID IT BETTER STEVE IN YOUR OPENING

STEVE IN YOUR OPENING MONOLOGUE, YOU CANT LET

MONOLOGUE, YOU CANT LET PEOPLE GO BACK TO WORK IF THEY

PEOPLE GO BACK TO WORK IF THEY DONT HAVE IT BECAUSE IT

DONT HAVE IT BECAUSE IT CREATES THIS PERVERSE

CREATES THIS PERVERSE INCENTIVE THAT YOURE GONNA GO

INCENTIVE THAT YOURE GONNA GO OUT AND TRYING GET SICK

OUT AND TRYING GET SICK ESPECIALLY IF YOURE NOT GOING

ESPECIALLY IF YOURE NOT GOING TO GET THAT SICK, BUT IT COULD

TO GET THAT SICK, BUT IT COULD CREATE A MUCH BIGGER CRISIS.

CREATE A MUCH BIGGER CRISIS. JUST TO ADD SOMETHING THAT

JUST TO ADD SOMETHING THAT ANDREW JUST SAID ABOUT THE

ANDREW JUST SAID ABOUT THE MASS TESTING, IF 50% OF THE

MASS TESTING, IF 50% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT DIDNT EVEN

PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT DIDNT EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE IT, AND 85% OF

KNOW THEY HAVE IT, AND 85% OF PEOPLE HAD A MILD CASE AND

PEOPLE HAD A MILD CASE AND NEVER GOT TESTED, HOW CAN YOU

NEVER GOT TESTED, HOW CAN YOU TRACE 50% OF THE PEOPLE WHO

TRACE 50% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD IT AND DIDNT KNOW THEY

HAD IT AND DIDNT KNOW THEY HAD IT.

HAD IT. THATS JUST CRAZY.

THATS JUST CRAZY. YOU CAN SEE WHY THESE NUMBERS

YOU CAN SEE WHY THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING OUT, THERES A

THAT ARE COMING OUT, THERES A STUDY OUT OF DENMARK THAT

STUDY OUT OF DENMARK THAT SHOWS 30 - 80 TIMES AS MANY

SHOWS 30 - 80 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE HAD THE ANTIBODY,

PEOPLE HAD THE ANTIBODY, THERES A STUDY OUT OF GERMANY

THERES A STUDY OUT OF GERMANY THAT SAYS 15% OF THIS TOWN

THAT SAYS 15% OF THIS TOWN ALREADY HAS IT WHICH IS

ALREADY HAS IT WHICH IS SOMETHING THATS LIKE A

SOMETHING THATS LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES WHAT THE GERMAN

HUNDRED TIMES WHAT THE GERMAN TEST RATE IS TODAY SO LIKE

TEST RATE IS TODAY SO LIKE ANDREW SAID, THIS IS PROBABLY

ANDREW SAID, THIS IS PROBABLY GONE WAY BEYOND THAT WE SHOULD

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