THATS A HUGE CONTRAST, BUT A
CONSISTENT ONE THATS HELPED HIM
IN THE POLLS.
>> YOU KNOW, ITS SUCH A GOOD
POINT.
DAVID JOLLY, IVE BEEN WAITING
TO TALK TO YOU FOR A COUPLE
DAYS.
I FEEL LIKE JOE BIDEN IS -- ITS
ALMOST LIKE THAT AMERICAN
PRESIDENT SCENE WHERE HE SAYS
IM ANDREW SHEPHERD AND I AM THE
PRESIDENT.
ONLY POLL QUESTION OF WHOSE
HANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC DO YOU
APPROVE OF, WE HAVENT SEEN HOW
JOE BIDEN WILL HANDLE IT, BUT WE
KNOW HELL BRING IN OUR SCIENCE
AND MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND NOT
CRITICIZE THEM ON TWITTER.
>> ITS TRUE.
YOURE SEEING THE STEADY HAND OF
JOE BIDEN AND THE ERRATIC
DISRUPT
DISRUPTER.
NICOLLE, ITS OFTEN OVERLOOKED
IN THE MOMENT, BUT JOE BIDEN IS
SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN SEEKING
THE PRESIDENCY FOR 32 YEARS.
HE STARTED IN 1988 WITH AN EYE
TOWARDS HOW HE MAY GOVERN THE
COUNTRY.
HE TRIED IN 08 AND NOW IN 2020
CAME THROUGH A DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY WHERE HE WAS LEFT A
LITTLE ON THE SIDELINE AS WE
WERE HAVING THE DEMOCRATIC
DEBATE OVER SOME OF THE MORE
PROGRESSIVE ISSUES.
WHEN HE EMERGED OUT OF SOUTH
CAROLINA REMARKABLY, THE PARTY
DECIDED TO PUT ASIDE THE DEBATE
WITHIN THE PARTY AND TO FOCUS ON
THE MAIN GOAL WHICH IS TO DEFEAT
TRUMP.
HES ON THE CUSP OF DOING THAT.
WHAT YOURE SEEING IS WHAT WOULD
A PRESIDENT BIDEN LOOK LIKE.
ITS THAT STEADY CAPABLE HAND.
>> I MEAN, YOU JUST ARTICULATED
THE BIG STORY THAT SOME PEOPLE
LIKE ME SOMETIMES MISS WHEN
WERE STARING AT NAMES OF
COUNTIES AND STATES THAT HAVENT
COME IN YET.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS TRUE.
IF THOSE OF US WHO WERE SO
DEVASTATED BY WATCHING DONALD
TRUMPS DISDAIN FOR THE NORMS
AND TRADITIONS OF THE AMERICAN
PRESIDENCY AND THE AMERICAN
POLITICAL PROCESS, EVERYONE WHO
FELT THAT WAY, BY AND LARGE,
CHEERED ON JOE BIDEN.
HE PULLED IT OFF.
AS YOU SAID HE WENT 0-3 IN THE
FIRST THREE DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARIES.
HE WAS NOT WHERE THE ENERGY IS
ON THE LEFT, THE ENERGY IS
AROUND MORE PROGRESSIVE FIGURES,
BUT HE PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF
THE OTHER.
NONE OF THOSE POLITICAL SETBACKS
COMPARE TO HIS PERSONAL
TRAGEDIES, BUT THEY NEVER
DERAILED HIM.
YOU PUT THE FINGER ON WHAT THE
STORY IS.
HOW HE GOVERNS AND THE WAY HE
RAN SEEMS TO BE OF NATIONAL
IMPORTANCE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE CIVIL
OBLIGATION IS WHEN YOU THINK
ABOUT JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS
TO BREAK THROUGH THIS
DISINFORMATION CLIMATE.
DONALD TRUMPS REFUSAL TO PLAY
FAIR.
DONALD TRUMPS REFUSAL TO
PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE THE WAY
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE HELD AND HIS
ONGOING EFFORTS TO DELEGITIMIZE
JOE BIDENS PRESIDENCY SHOULD HE
COME OUT ON TOP.
>> ITS REMARKABLE JOE BIDEN HAS
EMERGED IN THIS MOMENT GIVEN THE
BODY POLITIC AND THE STATE OF
THE TWO PARTIES.
HE WAS VERY CONSISTENT, BUT HE
TOOK SOME RISKS.
IN THE FIRST DEBATE WHEN HE WAS
CHALLENGED BY TRUMP ABOUT THE
BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH
WARREN PLATFORM AND HE SAID I AM
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WE HAVE
WE SAW DEMOCRATIC UNITY.
IN THE SECOND DEBATE HE SAYS I
BEAT THOSE GUYS.
HES NOT GOING TO DEFUND THE
POLICE.
THOSE WERE RISKS FOR THIS
POSSIBLE PRESIDENT ELECT JOE
BIDEN.
IT REFLECTED HOW HE INTENDS TO
GOVERN.
TWO CHALLENGES NOW.
THE POWER COUPLE, SHOULD
EVERYTHING HOLD, IS GOING TO BE
MITCH McCONNELL AND CHUCK
SCHUMER.
WHAT CAN THEY AGREE UPON?
THERE WILL BE A CHALLENGE IN THE
SENATE.
I WOULD SAY BETWEEN NOW AND
SHOULD JOE BIDEN SECURE THE
ELECTORAL VOTES, NICOLLE, THERE
IS ONE OPTION LEFT TO DONALD
TRUMP.
ITS THE NUCLEAR OPTION THAT
NONE OF US LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
RIGHT NOW HE HAS A VOTE STRATEGY
GOING AGAINST HIM.
HE HAS A NARROW WAY TO GET
THERE.
HE HAS LEGAL STRATEGIES AND THE
PR STRATEGIES.
NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY WORKING.
I THINK WHAT HES BUILDING TO,
DONALD TRUMP, IS A DECISION
POINT WHETHER TO PULL THE
NUCLEAR OPTION.
THE NUCLEAR OPTION WOULD BE TO
LEGALLY CHALLENGE THE RESULTS IN
CERTAIN STATES.
GOOD ATTORNEYS WILL TELL YOU
ITS A MERITLESS CLAIM AND
THEYRE RIGHT.
ITS STILL A CLAIM HE CAN PUSH
THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THROUGH