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>>> WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS AT

>>> WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS AT THIS HOUR FROM THE COMMITTEES

THIS HOUR FROM THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE DOING THE IMPEACHMENT

THAT ARE DOING THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION WHO CONDUCTED THE

INVESTIGATION WHO CONDUCTED THE 9 1/2 HOUR DEPOSITION TODAY WITH

9 1/2 HOUR DEPOSITION TODAY WITH FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT ENVOY

FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT ENVOY KURT VOLKER.

KURT VOLKER. THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN RELEASED

THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING TODAYS

A STATEMENT SAYING TODAYS HEARING AND THE DOCUMENTS

HEARING AND THE DOCUMENTS OBTAINED AND THE TEXT MESSAGES

OBTAINED AND THE TEXT MESSAGES HAVE BEEN VERY REVEALING.

HAVE BEEN VERY REVEALING. THEY SAY THESE REFLECT SERIOUS

THEY SAY THESE REFLECT SERIOUS CONCERNS RAISED BY A STATE

CONCERNS RAISED BY A STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL ABOUT THE

DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL ABOUT THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF WITH

DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF WITH HOLDING CRITICAL MILITARY

HOLDING CRITICAL MILITARY ASSISTANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF

ASSISTANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SETTING UP A MEETING WITHOUT

SETTING UP A MEETING WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.

FURTHER DELAY. WE QUOTED YOU ONE OF THE TEXTS

WE QUOTED YOU ONE OF THE TEXTS THAT HAD ALREADY LEAKED EARLIER

THAT HAD ALREADY LEAKED EARLIER IN THIS HOUR.

IN THIS HOUR. THAT WAS FROM BILL TAYLOR.

THAT WAS FROM BILL TAYLOR. THAT WAS BILL TAYLOR SAYING ON A

THAT WAS BILL TAYLOR SAYING ON A TEXT I THINK ITS CRAZY TO WITH

TEXT I THINK ITS CRAZY TO WITH HOLD SECURITY ASSISTANCE FOR

HOLD SECURITY ASSISTANCE FOR HELP WITH A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.

HELP WITH A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN. THIS DOCUMENT RELEASED TONIGHT

THIS DOCUMENT RELEASED TONIGHT BY THE CHAIRS OF THE MITTIES NOW

BY THE CHAIRS OF THE MITTIES NOW PROVIDES THE FULL CONTEXT AND

PROVIDES THE FULL CONTEXT AND THE FULL EXCHANGE ON THE TEXT,

THE FULL EXCHANGE ON THE TEXT, ALSO HAS A TEXT FROM BILL TAYLOR

ALSO HAS A TEXT FROM BILL TAYLOR TO OTHERS INVOLVED IN THE

TO OTHERS INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT UKRAINE.

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT UKRAINE. ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY

ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE

ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE MEETING ARE CONDITIONED ON

MEETING ARE CONDITIONED ON INVESTIGATION?

INVESTIGATION? THAT WAS A TEXT TO GORDON WHOSE

THAT WAS A TEXT TO GORDON WHOSE RESPONSE WAS CALL ME.

RESPONSE WAS CALL ME. THAT IS A RECURRING RESPONSE

THAT IS A RECURRING RESPONSE FROM GORDON WE HAVE SEEN IN

FROM GORDON WE HAVE SEEN IN THESE TEXTS THAT WHENEVER BILL

THESE TEXTS THAT WHENEVER BILL TAYLOR GOES INTO THE ESSENCE OF

TAYLOR GOES INTO THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS

WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS UP TO LINKING AID TO A CRIMINAL

UP TO LINKING AID TO A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF JOE BIDEN,

INVESTIGATION OF JOE BIDEN, GORDON ALWAYS WANTS TO TAKE THAT

GORDON ALWAYS WANTS TO TAKE THAT OFF OF WRITTEN RECORD AND MOVE

OFF OF WRITTEN RECORD AND MOVE IT ON TO A VERBAL PHONE CALL.

IT ON TO A VERBAL PHONE CALL. WE ARE JOINED NOW BY PHONE BY

WE ARE JOINED NOW BY PHONE BY CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWAULWELL WHO

CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWAULWELL WHO WAS IN SOME OF THAT OR MOST OF

WAS IN SOME OF THAT OR MOST OF THAT OR ALL OF THAT DEPOSITION

THAT OR ALL OF THAT DEPOSITION TODAY WHO KNEW ABOUT THE

TODAY WHO KNEW ABOUT THE INFORMATION AND WAS UNABLE TO

INFORMATION AND WAS UNABLE TO COMMENT ON IT IN HIS PREVIOUS

COMMENT ON IT IN HIS PREVIOUS COMMENTS UNTIL RELEASED.

COMMENTS UNTIL RELEASED. WHAT ELSE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT

WHAT ELSE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS INFORMATION THATS NOW

THIS INFORMATION THATS NOW BEING RELEASED?

BEING RELEASED? >> GOOD EVENING.

>> GOOD EVENING. I WAS PRESENT FOR THE WHOLE

I WAS PRESENT FOR THE WHOLE INTERVIEW WITH THE AMBASSADOR.

INTERVIEW WITH THE AMBASSADOR. FIRST HE KWAUB RATED ENTIRELY

FIRST HE KWAUB RATED ENTIRELY WHAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT

WHAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT STATED, THAT THERE WAS A SHAKE

STATED, THAT THERE WAS A SHAKE DOWN, A SHADOW SHAKE DOWN GOING

DOWN, A SHADOW SHAKE DOWN GOING ON BY RUDY GIULIANI.

ON BY RUDY GIULIANI. IT LOOKS LIKE ORDERED BY

IT LOOKS LIKE ORDERED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.

PRESIDENT TRUMP. AS THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAID, HE

AS THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAID, HE WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN

WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO HAVE THE UKRAINIANS

EFFORT TO HAVE THE UKRAINIANS QUOTE/UNQUOTE PLAY BALL.

QUOTE/UNQUOTE PLAY BALL. HERES WHAT THE UKRAINIANS

HERES WHAT THE UKRAINIANS UNDERSTOOD AS SOON AS PRESIDENT

UNDERSTOOD AS SOON AS PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE

ZELENSKY WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE THAT THERE WERE TWO ASKS FROM

THAT THERE WERE TWO ASKS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.

THE WHITE HOUSE. IF HE WANTED A MEETING WITH

IF HE WANTED A MEETING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP HE HAD TO

PRESIDENT TRUMP HE HAD TO INVESTIGATE THE 2016 ELECTION

INVESTIGATE THE 2016 ELECTION AND EXONERATE RUSSIA AND TWO

AND EXONERATE RUSSIA AND TWO INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS.

INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS. THAT ASK WAS MADE THROUGHOUT THE

THAT ASK WAS MADE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF HIM BEING PRESIDENT

PROCESS OF HIM BEING PRESIDENT UP UNTIL THE PHONE CALL AND

UP UNTIL THE PHONE CALL AND BEYOND.

BEYOND. WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF STATE

WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS

DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS PARTICULARLY BILL TAYLOR

PARTICULARLY BILL TAYLOR EXPRESSING CONCERN CONCERN EVEN

EXPRESSING CONCERN CONCERN EVEN HE CAME ON BOARD TO BE THE

HE CAME ON BOARD TO BE THE SECOND IN COMMAND IN UKRAINE OF

SECOND IN COMMAND IN UKRAINE OF THE ROLE THAT RUDOLPH GIULIANI

THE ROLE THAT RUDOLPH GIULIANI WAS PLAYING.

WAS PLAYING. AND JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

AND JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO MR. TAYLOR SAID HE THOUGHT IT

MR. TAYLOR SAID HE THOUGHT IT WAS CRAZY THAT SECURITY

WAS CRAZY THAT SECURITY ASSISTANCE WOULD BE TIED TO THE

ASSISTANCE WOULD BE TIED TO THE PRESIDENTS POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.

PRESIDENTS POLITICAL CAMPAIGN. >> THIS REPORT TONIGHT THAT KURT

>> THIS REPORT TONIGHT THAT KURT VOLKER COWROTE A STATEMENT THAT

VOLKER COWROTE A STATEMENT THAT THEY HOPED THE PRESIDENT OF

THEY HOPED THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE WOULD GIVE, AND HE

UKRAINE WOULD GIVE, AND HE COWROTE THAT WITH GORDON

COWROTE THAT WITH GORDON SONDLAND.

SONDLAND. WAS THAT PART OF HIS TESTIMONY

WAS THAT PART OF HIS TESTIMONY TODAY?

TODAY? >> IM GOING TO LEAVE TO IT THE

>> IM GOING TO LEAVE TO IT THE TEXT MESSAGES THAT WERE

TEXT MESSAGES THAT WERE RELEASED, BUT YOU DO SEE IN

RELEASED, BUT YOU DO SEE IN THOSE TEXT MESSAGES THAT THERE

THOSE TEXT MESSAGES THAT THERE WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT.

WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BEING LED

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BEING LED BY THE PRESIDENT, CARRIED OUT BY

BY THE PRESIDENT, CARRIED OUT BY RUDY GIULIANI TO MAKE SURE THE

RUDY GIULIANI TO MAKE SURE THE UKRAINIANS WERE EXPRESSING TO

UKRAINIANS WERE EXPRESSING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT THEY WOULD

PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT THEY WOULD INDEED INVESTIGATE THE 2016

INDEED INVESTIGATE THE 2016 ELECTION, AS WELL AS THIS

ELECTION, AS WELL AS THIS UPCOMING 2020 ELECTION AS IT

UPCOMING 2020 ELECTION AS IT RELATED TO A POTENTIAL 2020

RELATED TO A POTENTIAL 2020 APPOINTEE.

APPOINTEE. SO, AGAIN, THAT CORROBORATES

SO, AGAIN, THAT CORROBORATES WHAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER SAYS

WHAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER SAYS THAT ALSO REALLY I WOULD SAY

THAT ALSO REALLY I WOULD SAY CORROBORATES THE PRESIDENTS

CORROBORATES THE PRESIDENTS INTENT ON THAT PHONE CALL.

INTENT ON THAT PHONE CALL. AND IT GIVES US NEW WITNESSES TO

AND IT GIVES US NEW WITNESSES TO INTERVIEW AS WE GO FORWARD.

INTERVIEW AS WE GO FORWARD. >> ON THIS TEXT FROM BILL TAYLOR

>> ON THIS TEXT FROM BILL TAYLOR TO GORDON SONDLAND WHERE HE SAYS

TO GORDON SONDLAND WHERE HE SAYS ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY

ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE

ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE MEETING, THAT MEANS A WHITE

MEETING, THAT MEANS A WHITE HOUSE MEETING FOR PRESIDENT OF

HOUSE MEETING FOR PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE.

UKRAINE. ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY

ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT SECURITY ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE

ASSISTANCE AND WHITE HOUSE MEETING ARE CONDITIONED ON

MEETING ARE CONDITIONED ON INVESTIGATION

INVESTIGATION INVESTIGATIONS?

INVESTIGATIONS? GORDON SONDLAND, HIS SUNDAY IS

GORDON SONDLAND, HIS SUNDAY IS JUST "CALL ME."

JUST "CALL ME." DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN

DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN BILL TAYLOR CALLED HIM?

BILL TAYLOR CALLED HIM? DO WE KNOW WHAT WAS SAID THEN?

DO WE KNOW WHAT WAS SAID THEN? >> NO, WE DONT.

>> NO, WE DONT. THATS WHY WE HAVE A NEW

THATS WHY WE HAVE A NEW WITNESS, A POTENTIAL WITNESS IN

WITNESS, A POTENTIAL WITNESS IN MR. TAYLOR.

MR. TAYLOR. BUT, AGAIN, WHEN SO MUCH OF THIS

BUT, AGAIN, WHEN SO MUCH OF THIS IS TAKING PLACE ON WHATSSAPP,

IS TAKING PLACE ON WHATSSAPP, THATS THE FORM THEYRE TALKING

THATS THE FORM THEYRE TALKING AND THEN ITS MOVED OFF OF THAT,

AND THEN ITS MOVED OFF OF THAT, AGAIN, YOU CAN CONCLUDE I

AGAIN, YOU CAN CONCLUDE I BELIEVE THAT ITS BECOME THAT

BELIEVE THAT ITS BECOME THAT AMBASSADOR SONDLAND DOES NOT

AMBASSADOR SONDLAND DOES NOT WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT THE

WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT THE PRESIDENTS TRUE INTENTIONS ARE.

PRESIDENTS TRUE INTENTIONS ARE. AND YOU DO SEE THAT, AS YOU

AND YOU DO SEE THAT, AS YOU POINTED OUT, A NUMBER OF TIMES.

POINTED OUT, A NUMBER OF TIMES. MR. TAYLOR CONSISTENTLY, FROM

MR. TAYLOR CONSISTENTLY, FROM THE TIME HE IS PLACED IN CHARGE

THE TIME HE IS PLACED IN CHARGE OR IS THE SECOND IN COMMAND AND

OR IS THE SECOND IN COMMAND AND THEN THERE IS NO AMBASSADOR, AND

THEN THERE IS NO AMBASSADOR, AND HE IS ESSENTIALLY THE DE FACTO

HE IS ESSENTIALLY THE DE FACTO AMBASSADOR, HE HAS CONCERNS

AMBASSADOR, HE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT RUDY GIULIANIS ROLE.

ABOUT RUDY GIULIANIS ROLE. AND THEN YOU SEE AMBASSADOR

AND THEN YOU SEE AMBASSADOR VOLKER WHO I WOULD DESCRIBE AS A

VOLKER WHO I WOULD DESCRIBE AS A SERIOUS AMBASSADOR WHO IS

SERIOUS AMBASSADOR WHO IS RUNNING A PARALLEL DIPLOMACY

RUNNING A PARALLEL DIPLOMACY EFFORT AS RUDY GIULIANI IS TRULY

EFFORT AS RUDY GIULIANI IS TRULY THE ONE WHO HAS THE PRESIDENTS

THE ONE WHO HAS THE PRESIDENTS INTENTIONS.

INTENTIONS. AMBASSADOR VOLKER, I BELIEVE WAS

AMBASSADOR VOLKER, I BELIEVE WAS CARRYING OUT THE INTENTIONS OF

CARRYING OUT THE INTENTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES TO DELIVER

THE UNITED STATES TO DELIVER SECURITY ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE

SECURITY ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE WHILE RUDY GIULIANI WAS CARRYING

WHILE RUDY GIULIANI WAS CARRYING OUT THE AMBITIONS AND DESIRES OF

OUT THE AMBITIONS AND DESIRES OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHICH WAS TO

PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHICH WAS TO BENEFIT HIMSELF IN AN UPCOMING

BENEFIT HIMSELF IN AN UPCOMING ELECTION.

ELECTION. >> DID KURT VOLKER TELL YOU

>> DID KURT VOLKER TELL YOU TODAY UNDER OATH WHY HE RESIGNED

TODAY UNDER OATH WHY HE RESIGNED FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT LAST

FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT LAST WEEK?

WEEK? >> YOU KNOW, HE DID, AND I DONT

>> YOU KNOW, HE DID, AND I DONT WANT TO GO INTO THAT.

WANT TO GO INTO THAT. THE TRANSCRIPT IS GOING TO BE

THE TRANSCRIPT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED SOON, BUT WE BELIEVE

RELEASED SOON, BUT WE BELIEVE THE TEXT MESSAGES REALLY DO

THE TEXT MESSAGES REALLY DO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS CLEAR THAT

AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS CLEAR THAT A SHADOW SHAKEDOWN WAS BEING RUN

A SHADOW SHAKEDOWN WAS BEING RUN BY RUDY GIULIANI TO BENEFIT HIS

BY RUDY GIULIANI TO BENEFIT HIS CLIENT, NOT THE OFFICE OF THE

CLIENT, NOT THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, BUT DONALD TRUMP, AN

PRESIDENT, BUT DONALD TRUMP, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD A VESTED

INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD A VESTED POLITICAL INTEREST IN A 2020

POLITICAL INTEREST IN A 2020 OUTCOME WHERE HE WAS LEVERAGING

OUTCOME WHERE HE WAS LEVERAGING U.S. TAX DOLLARS TO HIS BENEFIT.

U.S. TAX DOLLARS TO HIS BENEFIT. >> CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL,

>> CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

US. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY PLEASURE.

>> MY PLEASURE. AND JOHN HOLLIMAN IS BACK WITH

AND JOHN HOLLIMAN IS BACK WITH US AND NORM ORNSTEIN, A

US AND NORM ORNSTEIN, A CONGRESSIONAL HISTORIAN,

CONGRESSIONAL HISTORIAN, RESIDENT SCHOLAR AT THE AMERICAN

RESIDENT SCHOLAR AT THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE, AND THIS

ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE, AND THIS TABLE IS STACKED WITH TEXT

TABLE IS STACKED WITH TEXT MESSAGES THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN

MESSAGES THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN STUDYING AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN

STUDYING AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN WHILE THE CONGRESSMAN HAS BEEN

WHILE THE CONGRESSMAN HAS BEEN TALKING.

TALKING. DAVID, GO AHEAD.

DAVID, GO AHEAD. >> I DONT KNOW IF THE

>> I DONT KNOW IF THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CONVERSATION

SERIOUSNESS OF THE CONVERSATION YOU JUST HADID JUSTICE TO THESE

YOU JUST HADID JUSTICE TO THESE TEXTS.

TEXTS. THIS IS LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL

THIS IS LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL ABOUT EVIL WRONGDOERS.

MUSICAL ABOUT EVIL WRONGDOERS. IM LOOKING AT JULY 25th OF

IM LOOKING AT JULY 25th OF 2019.

2019. KURT VOLKER, GOOD LUNCH, THANKS.

KURT VOLKER, GOOD LUNCH, THANKS. HE WILL INVESTIGATE, QUOTE, GET

HE WILL INVESTIGATE, QUOTE, GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED

TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016, WE WILL NAIL DOWN DATE

IN 2016, WE WILL NAIL DOWN DATE FOR VISIT TO WASHINGTON.

FOR VISIT TO WASHINGTON. GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK. SEE YOU TOMORROW.

SEE YOU TOMORROW. SO THE VISIT TO THE WHITE HOUSE,

SO THE VISIT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, ITS IN A TEXT MESSAGE IS

ITS IN A TEXT MESSAGE IS PREDICATED ON GETTING TO THE

PREDICATED ON GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF TRUMPS CRAZY

BOTTOM OF TRUMPS CRAZY FANTASIES.

FANTASIES. >> SO THERE IS CHINA IN JULY IN

>> SO THERE IS CHINA IN JULY IN A TEXT MESSAGE.

A TEXT MESSAGE. THEYRE TEXTING ABOUT CHINA

THEYRE TEXTING ABOUT CHINA INVESTIGATING THE BIDENS IN

INVESTIGATING THE BIDENS IN JULY.

JULY. >> THEYRE TEXTING ABOUT GETTING

>> THEYRE TEXTING ABOUT GETTING THE UKRAINIANS TO ENDORSE THIS

THE UKRAINIANS TO ENDORSE THIS INSANE THEORY THAT TRUMP HAS

INSANE THEORY THAT TRUMP HAS THAT SETH RICH IS THE PERSON WHO

THAT SETH RICH IS THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY HACKED --

ACTUALLY HACKED -- >> IM SORRY, WAS THAT REFERRING

>> IM SORRY, WAS THAT REFERRING TO PRESIDENT Z.?

TO PRESIDENT Z.? OH, Z. AS IN ZELENSKY.

OH, Z. AS IN ZELENSKY. >> NOT XI.

>> NOT XI. >> AND YOU GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN

>> AND YOU GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN.

AND AGAIN. AS I SAY, WERE TALKING TO

AS I SAY, WERE TALKING TO GREATLY AND CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL

GREATLY AND CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB, WAS

DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB, WAS TALKING TO SERIOUSLY AND SUCH

TALKING TO SERIOUSLY AND SUCH RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTIONS,

RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTIONS, AND YOU READ THIS AND IT IS A

AND YOU READ THIS AND IT IS A HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL.

HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL. >> NORM, THIS IS ONE OF THE

>> NORM, THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WHEN WERE COVERING

CHALLENGES WHEN WERE COVERING THE GANG THAT COULDNT SHOOT

THE GANG THAT COULDNT SHOOT STRAIGHT.

STRAIGHT. BUT WHEN THEYRE TRYING TO

BUT WHEN THEYRE TRYING TO DESTROY THE WORLD.

DESTROY THE WORLD. ONE THEYRE BASICALLY SHOOTING

ONE THEYRE BASICALLY SHOOTING AGAINST THE FREEDOM PROTESTERS

AGAINST THE FREEDOM PROTESTERS IN HONG KONG, WHEN THEYRE

IN HONG KONG, WHEN THEYRE SHOOTING AGAINST UKRAINE TRYING

SHOOTING AGAINST UKRAINE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ITS INDEPENDENCE

TO MAINTAIN ITS INDEPENDENCE FROM RUSSIA IN EFFECT.

FROM RUSSIA IN EFFECT. THATS WHAT THIS CRAZY GANG THAT

THATS WHAT THIS CRAZY GANG THAT ISNT SHOOTING STRAIGHT IS

ISNT SHOOTING STRAIGHT IS FIRING BULLETS AROUND.

FIRING BULLETS AROUND. SO KEEPING A STRAIGHT FACE WHEN

SO KEEPING A STRAIGHT FACE WHEN WE START READING THEIR STUFF

WE START READING THEIR STUFF ISNT THAT EASY.

ISNT THAT EASY. >> I THREW UP A LITTLE IN MY

>> I THREW UP A LITTLE IN MY MOUTH AS I READ SOME OF THIS

MOUTH AS I READ SOME OF THIS STUFF.

STUFF. I WILL TELL YOU, LAWRENCE, IVE

I WILL TELL YOU, LAWRENCE, IVE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS.

BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS. >> YOU DONT LOOK IT.

>> YOU DONT LOOK IT. >> WELL, I CAME A VERY YOUNG

>> WELL, I CAME A VERY YOUNG AGE.

AGE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A LEVEL AND

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A LEVEL AND DEPTH OF CORRUPTION, TRAIT TROUS

DEPTH OF CORRUPTION, TRAIT TROUS DEPTH THAT WE HAVE HERE AND

DEPTH THAT WE HAVE HERE AND COMPLICITY ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

COMPLICITY ALL ACROSS THE BOARD. WHAT I FIND STRIKING ABOUT SOME

WHAT I FIND STRIKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE TEXTS IS BILL TAYLOR

OF THESE TEXTS IS BILL TAYLOR TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. >> YES.

>> YES. >> AND GORDON SONDLAND ANY TIME

>> AND GORDON SONDLAND ANY TIME SOMETHING COMES UP THAT SOUNDS A

SOMETHING COMES UP THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE FISHY SAYS LETS STOP

LITTLE FISHY SAYS LETS STOP TEXTING, CALL ME.

TEXTING, CALL ME. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS IM NOT GOING TO PUT

THAT MEANS IM NOT GOING TO PUT ON A TEXT THATS GOING TO BE

ON A TEXT THATS GOING TO BE RELEASED SOMEWHERE.

RELEASED SOMEWHERE. >> ITS KIND OF LATE.

>> ITS KIND OF LATE. PLEASE DELETE THIS EVIL

PLEASE DELETE THIS EVIL CONFESSION.

CONFESSION. >> BUT THE LYING HERE, BUT THE

>> BUT THE LYING HERE, BUT THE IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP CARES

IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP CARES ABOUT CORRUPTION.

ABOUT CORRUPTION. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. >> WHEN HE CUDDLES UP TOSY SYSY

>> WHEN HE CUDDLES UP TOSY SYSY SO MBS, AND THIS IS THE PLACE HE

SO MBS, AND THIS IS THE PLACE HE CARES CORRUPTION?

CARES CORRUPTION? PLEASE.

PLEASE. >> WHATS YOUR FAVORITE?

>> WHATS YOUR FAVORITE? >> ITS NOT ONE PARTICULAR

>> ITS NOT ONE PARTICULAR THING, BUT ILL SAY IM REALLY

THING, BUT ILL SAY IM REALLY STRUCK BY THE USE OF EXCLAMATION

STRUCK BY THE USE OF EXCLAMATION POINTS THROUGHOUT.

POINTS THROUGHOUT. THERE IS KIND OF A HIGH

THERE IS KIND OF A HIGH SCHOOLISH QUALITY.

SCHOOLISH QUALITY. TO DAVIDS POINT.

TO DAVIDS POINT. YOU SEE IT PARTICULARLY IN THE

YOU SEE IT PARTICULARLY IN THE WAY VOLKER COMMUNICATES WITH

WAY VOLKER COMMUNICATES WITH GIULIANI.

GIULIANI. VOLKER WAS GIULIANI WAS ON MY

VOLKER WAS GIULIANI WAS ON MY SIDE, TRYING TO HELP ME OUT

SIDE, TRYING TO HELP ME OUT HERE.

HERE. AND THERE IS A LOT OF HI, MR.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF HI, MR. MAYOR, EXCLAMATION POINT.

MAYOR, EXCLAMATION POINT. YOU CAN SENSE THAT HE IS KIND OF

YOU CAN SENSE THAT HE IS KIND OF TREATING GIULIANI LIKE HE

TREATING GIULIANI LIKE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HES A CRAZY

UNDERSTANDS THAT HES A CRAZY PERSON AND THAT HE HAS TO BE

PERSON AND THAT HE HAS TO BE HANDLED WITH KID GLOVES, BUT HE

HANDLED WITH KID GLOVES, BUT HE IS TRYING TO BE SOLICITOUS

IS TRYING TO BE SOLICITOUS TOWARDS HIM, BUT ALSO KIND THE

TOWARDS HIM, BUT ALSO KIND THE WAY A 15-YEAR-OLD IS SOLICITOUS

WAY A 15-YEAR-OLD IS SOLICITOUS WITH SOMEONE WHO THEY RECOGNIZE

WITH SOMEONE WHO THEY RECOGNIZE AS A HOT POTATO.

AS A HOT POTATO. >> BUT THIS MAKES SO CLEAR WHY

>> BUT THIS MAKES SO CLEAR WHY MIKE POMPEO IS BLOCKING THE

MIKE POMPEO IS BLOCKING THE TESTIMONY OF EVERYONE ELSE THEY

TESTIMONY OF EVERYONE ELSE THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM.

WANT TO HEAR FROM. >> AND LLOYDIED ABOUT HIS OWN BE

>> AND LLOYDIED ABOUT HIS OWN BE ON THE PHONE CALL TOO.

ON THE PHONE CALL TOO. >> YES THERE MAY BE 25 PEOPLE IN

>> YES THERE MAY BE 25 PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WHO CARED ABOUT

WASHINGTON WHO CARED ABOUT UKRAINE BEFORE ALL THIS.

UKRAINE BEFORE ALL THIS. BUT THOSE 25 REALLY CARED ABOUT

BUT THOSE 25 REALLY CARED ABOUT IT AND SAW UKRAINES TRANSITION

IT AND SAW UKRAINES TRANSITION TO GREATER SUCCESS AS THE

TO GREATER SUCCESS AS THE CRUCIAL WORK ON THE EUROPEAN

CRUCIAL WORK ON THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT FOR THE

CONTINENT FOR THE DEMOCRATIZATION AND

DEMOCRATIZATION AND LIBERALIZATION IN THEIR TIME.

LIBERALIZATION IN THEIR TIME. AND THE IDEA THAT THESE 25

AND THE IDEA THAT THESE 25 PEOPLE AND KURT VOLKER IS ONE OF

PEOPLE AND KURT VOLKER IS ONE OF THEM WHO CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS

THEM WHO CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS PROJECT, 50 MILLION PEOPLE.

PROJECT, 50 MILLION PEOPLE. IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WHEN

IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WHEN THE ARMS WERE DELAYED, 50

THE ARMS WERE DELAYED, 50 UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS KILLED OR

UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS KILLED OR WOUNDED.

WOUNDED. THIS IS NOT ABSTRACT.

THIS IS NOT ABSTRACT. THESE ARE LIVES THAT ARE BEING

THESE ARE LIVES THAT ARE BEING SACRIFICED BY PRESIDENT TRUMPS

SACRIFICED BY PRESIDENT TRUMPS CAMPAIGN.

CAMPAIGN. AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL

AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, LIKE YOU SAY, THE LIKES OF

WITH, LIKE YOU SAY, THE LIKES OF RUDY GIULIANI.

RUDY GIULIANI. >> AND ZELENSKY IS SO WOUNDED BY

>> AND ZELENSKY IS SO WOUNDED BY THIS THAT NOW HE IS BEING PUSHED

THIS THAT NOW HE IS BEING PUSHED TO CAPITULATE IN THE INVASION OF

TO CAPITULATE IN THE INVASION OF CRIMEA AND LEGITIMIZE IT.

CRIMEA AND LEGITIMIZE IT. AND WE SHOULDNT FORGET MIKE

AND WE SHOULDNT FORGET MIKE PENCE IN ALL OF THIS BEFORE WE

PENCE IN ALL OF THIS BEFORE WE END.

END. GREGOR IS ER IS

GREGOR IS ER IS GREG SARGENT HAS A TIMELINE

GREG SARGENT HAS A TIMELINE THERE WHEN IT WAS BEING SHOUTED

THERE WHEN IT WAS BEING SHOUTED FROM THE ROOFTOPS BY GIULIANI

FROM THE ROOFTOPS BY GIULIANI AND WE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF

AND WE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF GOING ON IS LUDICROUS.

GOING ON IS LUDICROUS. >> SURELY AS WE GET MORE AND

>> SURELY AS WE GET MORE AND MORE OF THIS FROM INSIDE THE

MORE OF THIS FROM INSIDE THE STATE DEPARTMENT, MIKE PENCES

STATE DEPARTMENT, MIKE PENCES NAME IS GOING TO BE IN SOME OF

NAME IS GOING TO BE IN SOME OF THESE THINGS AT SOME POINT.

THESE THINGS AT SOME POINT. >> YES.

>> YES. ITS CLEAR PENCE IS BEING

ITS CLEAR PENCE IS BEING DRAGGED DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO

DRAGGED DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO THIS, BOTH BY THE FAX, THAT HE

THIS, BOTH BY THE FAX, THAT HE IS CLEARLY MORE INVOLVED AND

IS CLEARLY MORE INVOLVED AND IMPLICATED THAN HE WOULD LIKE TO

IMPLICATED THAN HE WOULD LIKE TO BE OR THAN ANYBODY WOULD LIKE

BE OR THAN ANYBODY WOULD LIKE HIM TO BE, EXCEPT FOR ONE

HIM TO BE, EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON, DONALD TRUMP, WHO PART

PERSON, DONALD TRUMP, WHO PART OF THE REASON PENCE IS GOING TO

OF THE REASON PENCE IS GOING TO END UP DEEPER AND DEEPER IS

END UP DEEPER AND DEEPER IS TRUMP WANTS PENCE DEEPER AND

TRUMP WANTS PENCE DEEPER AND DEEPER BECAUSE IF IT GETS TO A

DEEPER BECAUSE IF IT GETS TO A SENATE TRIAL, WHAT TRUMP WANTS

SENATE TRIAL, WHAT TRUMP WANTS TO SAY TO SENATE REPUBLICANS,

TO SAY TO SENATE REPUBLICANS, HEY, GET RID OF ME, THIS GUY

HEY, GET RID OF ME, THIS GUY JUST AS DIRTY AS I AM.

JUST AS DIRTY AS I AM. >> ONE OF TWO PEOPLE REFERRING

>> ONE OF TWO PEOPLE REFERRING TO WHO HAS ALWAYS PROFESSED

TO WHO HAS ALWAYS PROFESSED CONCERN ABOUT UKRAINE IS LINDSEY

CONCERN ABOUT UKRAINE IS LINDSEY GRAHAM.

GRAHAM. AND WE NOW KNOW HE DIDNT MEAN A

AND WE NOW KNOW HE DIDNT MEAN A WORD OF IT.

WORD OF IT. AND AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, HE

AND AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, HE HAS NEVER MEANT A WORD OF

HAS NEVER MEANT A WORD OF ANYTHING HE SAID BEFORE DONALD

ANYTHING HE SAID BEFORE DONALD TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT.

TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT. >> I BELIEVE IF JOHN McCAIN WERE

>> I BELIEVE IF JOHN McCAIN WERE ALIVE TODAY THAT HE WOULD BE

ALIVE TODAY THAT HE WOULD BE SHATTERED AT THE DUPLICITY AND

SHATTERED AT THE DUPLICITY AND COMPLICITY AND TRAITOROUS

COMPLICITY AND TRAITOROUS BEHAVIOR BY LINDSEY GRAHAM.

BEHAVIOR BY LINDSEY GRAHAM. ITS SHOCKING.

ITS SHOCKING. >> WERE GOING HAVE TO LEAVE IT

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