THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM CLOSED.
CAN’T DO THAT.
LOU: PRESIDENT TRUMP ON FOX
BUSINESS TODAY MAKING SOME OF
THE STRONGEST COMMENTS TO DATE
ABOUT HOW HIS ADMINISTRATION
PLANS TO DEAL WITH CHINA’S LIES,
ITS COVER-UP AND REFUSAL TO WARN
THE WORLD ABOUT THE SEVERITY OF
THE WUHAN VIRUS THAT IT
UNLEASHED.
HERE HE IS.
>> THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE
COULD DO.
WE COULD DO THINGS, WE COULD CUT
OFF THE WHOLE RELATIONSHIP.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
YOU’D SAVE $500 BILLION.
IF YOU CUT OFF THE WHOLE
RELATIONSHIP.
LOU: PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKING
WITH MARIA BARTIROMO THIS
MORNING.
JOINING US TONIGHT IS TREASURY
SECRETARY STEVEN MNUCHIN.
MR. SECRETARY, GREAT TO HAVE YOU
WITH US, AND LET’S BEGIN WITH
THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT THE
PROSPECT OF ACTUALLY CUTTING OFF
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA.
HIS DISPLEASURE IS CLEAR.
THE ACTS OF THE CHINESE ARE
CHRIS CALL CAREER -- CRYSTAL
CLEAR.
YOUR THOUGHTS TONIGHT.
>> LOU, IT’S GREAT TO BE BACK
WITH YOU AGAIN.
ASK IF AS YOU SAID, THE
PRESIDENT IS CONCERNED.
HE’S REVIEWING ALL HIS OPTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE’RE VERY CONCERNED
ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS VIRUS
ON THE ECONOMY, ON AMERICAN
JOBS, THE HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC, AND THE PRESIDENT IS
GOING TO DO EVERYTHING TO
PROTECT THE ECONOMY AND PROTECT
AMERICAN WORKERS.
LOU: IT IS, THE IS MAKING
STRONG -- THE PRESIDENT IS
MAKING STRONGER AND STRONGER
STATEMENTS, MR. SECRETARY.
WE ARE HEARING ALMOST NOTHING
FROM WALL STREET.
WE’RE HEARING ALMOST NOTHING
FROM CORPORATE AMERICA.
WE’VE HEARD FROM THE CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE, BUT THEY’RE TALKING
ABOUT REMOVING TARIFFS, SORT OF
A MAD INTERLUDE FOR THE CHAMBER.
BUT WE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, HAVE
NOT HEARD A WORD FROM THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT EXPRESSING
REMORSE, EXPRESSING CONTRITION
IN ANY WAY COMMUNICATING TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE OF
THE WORLD ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE
DONE HERE IN NOT -- CHOOSING
CONSCIOUSLY NOT TO WARN THE
WORLD OF UNLEASHING THIS DEADLY
CONTAGION.
THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE,
AND IT IS AT THE VERY LEAST
EXTRAORDINARILY A DIFFICULT AND
COMPLEX MATTER TO RESOLVE.
YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> WELL, LOU, I AGREE WITH YOU,
IT’S A DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX
MATTER, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS
MADE VERY CLEAR HE WANTS MORE
INFORMATION.
THEY DIDN’T LET US IN, THEY
DIDN’T LET US UNDERSTAND WHAT
WAS GOING ON, AND THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC HAVE THE RIGHT TO
UNDERSTAND ALL THE FACTS.
LOU: THEY DO, INDEED.
AND IT’S, IT’S PRETTY CLEAR
AMONGST THE FACTS THAT WE CAN
MARTIAL IS THAT CONSCIOUS
DECISION ON THE PART OF
PRESIDENT XI NOT TO WARN THE
WORLD.
THAT’S SIMPLY UNFORGIVABLE AS
WELL AS UNCONSCIONABLE, IS IT
NOT?
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, LOU.
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT
MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT OF
CHINA, AND THE PRESIDENT IS
REVIEWING THE SITUATION.
LOU: WELL, LET’S TURN TO THE
ECONOMY.
THE DEVASTATION WROUGHT BY THE
WUHAN VIRUS.
THE DAMAGES, EXTRAORDINARY.
YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AS AN
UNPRECEDENTED EVENT AND
CERTAINLY IT IS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT TRILLIONS OF
DOLLARS BEING ADDED TO THE
NATIONAL DEBT.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BALANCE
SHEET IS SKYROCKETING TOWARD $8,
9 TRILLION, WHO KNOWS, AND WE
HAVE A FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIRMAN
STEPPING UP YESTERDAY TO TALK
ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT AND HOW
SEVERE THIS DOWNTURN IS.
TOTALLY UNHELPFUL, TO PUT IT IN
THE KINDEST TERMS I CAN, AND
WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THE
POLICIES THAT HE WILL PURSUE OR
SOLUTIONS THAT HE MIGHT OFFER.
THE FED CHAIR, YOUR, YOUR SENSE
OF HOW WELL THE COOPERATION IS
BETWEEN YOUR DEPARTMENTS, THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE FED AND
WHAT IN THE WORLD JEROME POWELL
THINKS HE’S DOING AS FED CHAIR.
>> WELL, I THINK THE, LOU, FIRST
OF ALL, LET ME JUST START WITH
WE HAD AN UNPRECEDENTED RESPONSE
FROM CONGRESS, $3 TRILLION.
WE’RE PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO
THE TRY.
WE’RE JUST BEGINNING TO SEE THE
IMPACT ON THAT.
THAT’S VERY IMPORTANT.
AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE OVER
$450 BILLION THAT WE CAN WORK
WITH THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
I MUST SAY THEY’VE BEEN A
TERRIFIC PARTNER WORKING WITH US
ON THESE FACILITIES.
WE’VE APPROVED ABOUT $2.5
TRILLION, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE
CORPORATE BOND MARKETS, JUST THE
MERE FACT THAT WE ANNOUNCED
THESE FACILITIES WITH THE FED
UNLOCKED RECORD ISSUANCE OF
CORPORATE BONDS.
SO COMPANIES LIKE BOEING COULD
BORROW IN EXCESS OF $25 BILLION.
SO I THINK, I THINK YOU’RE BEING
A LITTLE HARSH ON THE FED AT
THIS POINT BECAUSE THE FED HAS
REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB WHETHER
IT’S THE MONETARY POLICY OR
WORKING ON THESE FACILITIES.
THIS IS WHAT’S KEEPING AMERICAN
BUSINESS ALIVE.
LOU: I’M BEING PERHAPS HARSH, I
DON’T MEAN TO BE, I’M JUST
TRYING TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD
ABOUT IT.
A FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIRMAN, IN
MY EXPERIENCE, WHO TALKS AS
JEROME POWELL DOES WITHOUT
CONSIDERATION FOR BOTH EFFECT
AND PROSPECT OF A POLICY
SOLUTION IS, IS FRANKLY
CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM
RATHER THAN SOLVING IT.
THAT’S BEEN, I THINK, THE
HISTORY OF FED CHAIR, CHAIRMEN,
FED CHAIRS.
DON’T YOU THINK?
>> LET ME JUST SAY I THINK THE
GOOD NEWS IS WE GOT APPROVAL TO
SPEND $3 TRILLION.
THE GOOD NEWS IS INTEREST RATES
ARE REALLY LOW, SO WE DO CARE
ABOUT A DEFICITS, BUT WE CAN
BORROW THIS MONEY FOR 10, 20, 30
YEARS, LOCK IT UP AT CLOSE TO
ZERO IN MANY CASES OR 1% ON
LONG-TERM BORROWING.
SO WE’RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING
WE CAN.
THE PRESIDENT IS DETERMINED TO
PROTECT THE U.S. ECONOMY AND
U.S. WORKERS AND OPEN UP IN A
SAFE WAY.
LOU: I THINK THAT’S LAUDABLE,
AND I CERTAINLY AM CHEERING BOTH
YOU AND THE PRESIDENT, THE
ADMINISTRATION AND, YES, THE
FEDERAL RESERVE ON AS YOU DO SO.
NOW COMES THE SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE WITH A $3 TRILLION
ADDITIONAL PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
A THIRD OF WHICH WOULD GO TO
STATES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS -- THIS LOOKS
LIKE UTTER MADNESS TO ME,
MR. SUCCESS SECRETARY.
WHAT -- MR. SECRETARY.
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO YOU,
WHAT SHE HAS PROPOSED?
>> WELL, I THINK THE SPEAKER IS
OFF WORKING ON HER OWN AS
OPPOSED TO ON THE LAST TWO DEALS
WE HAD ENORMOUS BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT IN THE SENATE.
YOU KNOW, WE PASSEDDED ONE 96-0,
ONE 100-0.
WE HAD TREMENDOUS SUPPORT.
I THINK OUR VIEW IS LET’S TAKE A
STEP BACK FOR A FEW WEEKS, LET’S
SEE HOW THE $3 TRILLION WE JUST
GOT APPROVED IS WORKING.
AND I THINK IT’S PRETTY CLEAR
THAT WHAT THE SPEAKER IS DOING
IS A PARTISAN POSITION THAT
ISN’T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE IF
THEY PASS IT IN THE HOUSE.
LOU: YEAH.
IT’S UNCLEAR WHAT KIND OF
PARTISAN POSITION IT IS BECAUSE
IT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT
BENEFIT OF CONGRESS BEING IN
SESSION, AS YOU WELL KNOW.
BUT THED IDEA THAT A TRILLION
DOLLARS WOULD BE GOING TO
GOVERNMENTS ALL BEING TREATED
EXACTLY THE SAME IN WHAT WE’RE
DEALING WITH THIS SOME CASES --
IN SOME CASES, SOME OF THE MOST
IRRESPONSIBLE STATE GOVERNMENTS
IN THIS COUNTRY’S HISTORY.
AND TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF
BEHAVIOR, CONDUCT AND POLICIES
OR THAT ARE LED BY VARIOUS
GOVERNORS ACROSS THE STATE WOULD
BE IRRESPONSIBLE, DON’T YOU
THINK, OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT?
>> WELL, WE HAVE MADE VERY CLEAR
THAT WE ARE NOT BAILING OUT THE
STATES FOR PREVIOUS ISSUES AND
BAD MANAGEMENT AND PENSION
PROBLEMS.
ANY OF THE MONEY, AND WE DID
APPROVE $150 BILLION THAT’S
GOING TO THE STATES FOR
CORONAVIRUS EXPENSES, WE ALSO
APPROVED IT COULD GO TO
POLICEMEN, FIREMEN, FIRST
RESPONDERS, SO WE MADE SURE THAT
NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT LAID
OFF GIVEN WHAT THEY’RE DOING
PROTECTING US.
BUT FOR NOW WE DON’T NEED MORE
MONEY IN THE STATE, WE NEED TO
SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
AND WE’RE WORKING HARD TO GET
ALL THIS MONEY OUT INTO THE
ECONOMY.
LOU: OUT INTO THE ECONOMY AND
OUT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS
COUNTRY, WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO NEED IT
MOST.
YOU HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB,
MR. SECRETARY, AND WE APPLAUD
THE ADMINISTRATION AND YOU FOR