>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK. MY NEXT GUEST HAS AN UNUSUAL
MY NEXT GUEST HAS AN UNUSUAL JOB, HUNTING VIRUSES.
JOB, HUNTING VIRUSES. HES CHASED EBOLA IN AFRICA AND
HES CHASED EBOLA IN AFRICA AND NOW HIS FOCUS IS THE CORONAVIRUS
NOW HIS FOCUS IS THE CORONAVIRUS AND THE DANGER IT POSES AS IT
AND THE DANGER IT POSES AS IT SPREADS AROUND THE WORLD.
SPREADS AROUND THE WORLD. NBC NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR DR.
NBC NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR DR. JOSEPH FARE JOINS ME NOW.
JOSEPH FARE JOINS ME NOW. WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS."
WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS." YOU WERE TELLING ME YOU SPENT A
YOU WERE TELLING ME YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE LAB WHERE
LOT OF TIME IN THE LAB WHERE THEY DISCOVERED THIS VIRUS IN
THEY DISCOVERED THIS VIRUS IN CHINA.
CHINA.
SIMPLE QUESTION, HOW CONCERNED SHOULD AMERICANS BE RIGHT NOW?
SHOULD AMERICANS BE RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT NOW WITH THE DATA WE
>> RIGHT NOW WITH THE DATA WE HAVE AND I EMPHASIZE THE DATA WE
HAVE AND I EMPHASIZE THE DATA WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVENT ROLLED
HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVENT ROLLED OUT BROAD TESTING NATIONALLY
OUT BROAD TESTING NATIONALLY YET, YOUR AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL
YET, YOUR AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN DOESNT NEED TO BE THAT
AMERICAN DOESNT NEED TO BE THAT CONCERNED RIGHT NOW OF CATCHING
CONCERNED RIGHT NOW OF CATCHING THIS VIRUS.
THIS VIRUS. HOWEVER, COMMUNITY-BASED
HOWEVER, COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION IN ONE STATE MEANS
TRANSMISSION IN ONE STATE MEANS THAT THERE IS PROBABLY
THAT THERE IS PROBABLY COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION IN
COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION IN OTHER STATES.
OTHER STATES. ONCE WE ROLL OUT THAT TESTING
ONCE WE ROLL OUT THAT TESTING AND LOWER THE CRITERIA FOR BEING
AND LOWER THE CRITERIA FOR BEING TESTED FOR COVID-19 WELL
TESTED FOR COVID-19 WELL PROBABLY SEE MORE CASES THAN WE
PROBABLY SEE MORE CASES THAN WE THOUGHT WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY.
THOUGHT WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY. >> THERE WAS A REPORT IN
>> THERE WAS A REPORT IN WASHINGTON STATE WHERE WE HAD
WASHINGTON STATE WHERE WE HAD THE FIRST DEATH WITH NO APPARENT
THE FIRST DEATH WITH NO APPARENT CONNECTION TO ANYBODY THATS
CONNECTION TO ANYBODY THATS BEEN TRAVELING, THEY THINK ITS
BEEN TRAVELING, THEY THINK ITS POSSIBLE THERE HAVE BEEN
POSSIBLE THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF CASES THAT WERE
HUNDREDS OF CASES THAT WERE MISSED.
MISSED.
IS THIS MOST LIKELY THE SCENARIO HERE THAT MAYBE HAS PLAYED OUTIO
HERE THAT MAYBE HAS PLAYED OUT ON THE WEST COAST, THAT IT MAY
ON THE WEST COAST, THAT IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN HERE BEFORE WE KNEW
HAVE GOTTEN HERE BEFORE WE KNEW IT?
IT?
>> ITS DIFFICULT TO SAY NUMBERS
>> ITS DIFFICULT TO SAY NUMBERS
BUT YES, DEFINITELY, IT WAS
BUT YES, DEFINITELY, IT WAS
PROBABLY HERE BEFORE WE KNEW IT
PROBABLY HERE BEFORE WE KNEW IT
BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY STRICT
BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY STRICT
TESTING CRITERIA THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE DOCUMENTED TRAVEL TO CHINAO
HAVE DOCUMENTED TRAVEL TO CHINA OR ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE
OR ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE TRANSMISSION OCCURRED.
TRANSMISSION OCCURRED. USUALLY EVERY TIME WE LOOK FOR A
USUALLY EVERY TIME WE LOOK FOR A VIRUS WE CAN FINDING IT
VIRUS WE CAN FINDING IT SOMEWHERE.
SOMEWHERE.
HAVING FOUND THAT ONE CASE, THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT HAVE
THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT HAVE THE VIRUS AS WELL.
THE VIRUS AS WELL. THEY MAY BE ASYMPTOMATIC OR IN
THEY MAY BE ASYMPTOMATIC OR IN THE LOW RISK GROUP AND DIDNT
THE LOW RISK GROUP AND DIDNT MEET THE CDC TESTING CRITERIA
MEET THE CDC TESTING CRITERIA WHICH HAS BEEN LOWERED SO A LOT
WHICH HAS BEEN LOWERED SO A LOT MORE PEOPLE CAN GET TESTED NOW.
MORE PEOPLE CAN GET TESTED NOW. >> TELL ME WHAT PIECES OF
>> TELL ME WHAT PIECES OF INFORMATION YOUD LIKE TO KNOW
INFORMATION YOUD LIKE TO KNOW NOW THAT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL
NOW THAT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL MORE CONFIDENT TO KNOW WHERE
MORE CONFIDENT TO KNOW WHERE WERE HEADED, WHERE THIS VIRUS
WERE HEADED, WHERE THIS VIRUS IS HEADED?
IS HEADED? >> REALLY IT ALL COMES DOWN TO
>> REALLY IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE DIAGNOSTICS.
THE DIAGNOSTICS.
WE NEED TO START TESTING ANYONE
WE NEED TO START TESTING ANYONE
THAT IS NEGATIVE FOR FLU AND
THAT IS NEGATIVE FOR FLU AND
NEGATIVE FOR YOUR AVERAGE COMMON
NEGATIVE FOR YOUR AVERAGE COMMON
COLD FOR CORONAVIRUS.
COLD FOR CORONAVIRUS.
ONCE WE GET THAT DIAGNOSTIC
ONCE WE GET THAT DIAGNOSTIC
TESTING UP AND RUNNING
TESTING UP AND RUNNING
NATIONALLY, WE GET A LOT MORE
NATIONALLY, WE GET A LOT MORE
MAJOR CITIES, ET CETERA, TESTED, I THINK WELL SEE MORE CASES AND,
I THINK WELL SEE MORE CASES AND THAT WILL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER
THAT WILL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER INDICATION OF WHERE WE HAVE
INDICATION OF WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION AND
COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION AND HOW MANY ACTUAL CASES WE HAVE IN
HOW MANY ACTUAL CASES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. >> WE WERE TALKING EARLIER AND I
>> WE WERE TALKING EARLIER AND I WAS ASKING YOU THE LIKELIHOOD
WAS ASKING YOU THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS IS ONE OF THESE ISSUES
THAT THIS IS ONE OF THESE ISSUES WHERE ONE OF THOSE VIRUSES WILL
WHERE ONE OF THOSE VIRUSES WILL GO DOERRMANT IN THE SUMMER AND
GO DOERRMANT IN THE SUMMER AND BACK IN THE FALL.
BACK IN THE FALL. >> THIS IS A NEW VIRUS TO
>> THIS IS A NEW VIRUS TO SCIENCE.
SCIENCE.
ITS NOT A NEW VIRUS, ITS A NEW VIRUS TO SCIENCE.US, ITS A NEW
VIRUS TO SCIENCE. WE WERENT FAMILIAR WITH THIS
WE WERENT FAMILIAR WITH THIS VIRUS BEFORE.
VIRUS BEFORE. WE DO HAVE COLD AND FLU SEASONS
WE DO HAVE COLD AND FLU SEASONS WHICH DO TEND TO DIMINISH IN THE
WHICH DO TEND TO DIMINISH IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.
SUMMER MONTHS. WE DONT YET KNOW IF THIS IS
WE DONT YET KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CASE.
GOING TO BE THE CASE. YOU CAN STILL GET FLU IN THE
YOU CAN STILL GET FLU IN THE SUMMER AND GET A COLD IN THE
SUMMER AND GET A COLD IN THE SUMMER.
SUMMER.
IT IS LIKELY CASES MIGHT DIP
IT IS LIKELY CASES MIGHT DIP
DURING THOSE SUMMER MONTHS, BUT
DURING THOSE SUMMER MONTHS, BUT
IT IS LIKELY ALSO THAT IT WILL
IT IS LIKELY ALSO THAT IT WILL
STICK AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME
STICK AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME
BECAUSE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE
BECAUSE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE
A VACCINE, PRESUMPTIVELY WE WOEKT HAVE PRESUMPTIVELY WE
WOEKT HAVE WONT HAVE A EVACUATIONVACCINE B
WONT HAVE A EVACUATIONVACCINE B END OF SUMMER.
END OF SUMMER. >> SPEAK TO SCHOOL
>> SPEAK TO SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS, TO PEOPLE THAT
SUPERINTENDENTS, TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO DECIDE DO I HAVE A
HAVE TO DECIDE DO I HAVE A BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT AT THE
BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
HIGH SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, WHEN SHOULD YOU MAKE
YOU KNOW, WHEN SHOULD YOU MAKE THOSE CALLS?
THOSE CALLS?
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE TO
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE TO
THESE LEADERS WHO HAVE TO MAKE
THESE LEADERS WHO HAVE TO MAKE
THIS DECISION?
THIS DECISION?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
RIGHT NOW, AND AGAIN I EMPHASIZE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS COULDSIZE
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS COULD CHANGE QUICKLY AND ILL GO BACK
CHANGE QUICKLY AND ILL GO BACK TO DIAGNOSTICS.
TO DIAGNOSTICS. IF WE HAVE DIAGNOSED
IF WE HAVE DIAGNOSED COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION IN
COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSMISSION IN AN AREA WHERE YOUR SCHOOL IS OR
AN AREA WHERE YOUR SCHOOL IS OR YOURE A SUPERINTENDENT OF A
YOURE A SUPERINTENDENT OF A SCHOOL WHERE YOU HAVE A
SCHOOL WHERE YOU HAVE A DOCUMENTED CASE OF COVID-19,
DOCUMENTED CASE OF COVID-19, THATS THE TIME YOU WANT TO
THATS THE TIME YOU WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT CANCELLING
START THINKING ABOUT CANCELLING MASS GATHERING EVENTS SUCH AS
MASS GATHERING EVENTS SUCH AS BASKETBALL GAMES AND ACTUALLY
BASKETBALL GAMES AND ACTUALLY CLOSING SCHOOLS.
CLOSING SCHOOLS. JAPAN HAS JUST CLOSED ALL THEIR
JAPAN HAS JUST CLOSED ALL THEIR SCHOOLS FOR ONE MONTH AT LEAST.
SCHOOLS FOR ONE MONTH AT LEAST. THOSE ARE THE TIMES.
THOSE ARE THE TIMES. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE FIRST
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE FIRST DIAGNOSIS AND THE DATA THAT WE
DIAGNOSIS AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.
HAVE.
WE TRY TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS BASED ON DATA, NOT JUST BECAUSE
BASED ON DATA, NOT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A COUGH OR A SNEEZE
SOMEONE HAS A COUGH OR A SNEEZE BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF
BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF COLD AND FLU SEASON AND IT MIGHT
COLD AND FLU SEASON AND IT MIGHT JUST BE THAT.
JUST BE THAT. >> DR. FAIR, I APPRECIATE YOU
>> DR. FAIR, I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US OUT IN UNDERSTANDING
HELPING US OUT IN UNDERSTANDING THIS A LITTLE BETTER WITH A
THIS A LITTLE BETTER WITH A LITTLE SIGN SCIENTIFIC