>> Sreenivasan: NEW NUMBERS FROM
THE LABOR DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY
SURPRISED ECONOMISTS WHEN THE
JOBLESS RATE DROPPED FROM 14.7%
IN APRIL TO 13.3% IN MAY.
STOCKS ROSE, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
CALLED REPORTERS TO THE ROSE
GARDEN TO ANNOUNCE THE
UNEXPECTED GOOD NEWS, EVEN
THOUGH TENS OF MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS ARE STILL OUT OF WORK.
BUT THERE WAS A NOTE ON THE
OFFICIAL REPORT, POINTING OUT A
"MISCLASSIFICATION ERROR," AN
ERROR THAT MAKES LAST MONTH'S
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AS MUCH AS
THREE POINTS HIGHER.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL'S"
CHIEF ECONOMICS COMMENTATOR,
GREG IP, EXPLAINED WHAT WAS
WRONG WITH THE NUMBERS.
HOW PEOPLE ARE CLASSIFIED, ON
WHETHER THEY'RE ABSENT FROM
WORK, WHETHER THEY'RE LAID OFF,
WHETHER THEY'RE-- THEY'VE LOST
THEIR JOB COMPLETELY, HOW DOES
THAT ALL MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO
WHEN WE MAKE ECONOMIC POLICY?
>> SO, THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE
BIT DISTORTED BECAUSE OF THE
UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE
PANDEMIC.
PEOPLE WHO ARE ON TEMPORARY
LAYOFF ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
CLASSIFIED AS "UNEMPLOYED."
FOR REASONS THAT WE'RE NOT
REALLY SURE, A LOT OF THOSE
PEOPLE WERE, IN FACT, CLASSIFIED
AS "EMPLOYED."
NOW, THE BUREAU OF LABOR
STATISTICS IS AWARE OF THAT
PROBLEM.
THEY TOLD US THAT IF YOU ADJUST
FOR THAT ERROR, THEN THE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS ACTUALLY
HIGHER.
HOW MUCH HIGHER?
WELL, THE MONTH OF MAY, IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN THREE PERCENTAGE
POINTS HIGHER, BUT, IN THE MONTH
OF APRIL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN FIVE
PERCENTAGE POINTS HIGHER.
SO, WHAT DO WE TAKE FROM THAT?
WELL, UNEMPLOYMENT ROSE A LOT
MORE IN APRIL THAN WE THOUGHT,
BUT IT ALSO FELL MORE IN MAY
THAN WE THOUGHT.
>> Sreenivasan: AND, PUT THIS IN
PERSPECTIVE FOR US-- WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT NUMBERS LIKE 13% OR
16%, COMPARE THAT TO WHERE WE
WERE JUST SIX MONTHS AGO.
>> I KNOW AROUND, YOU KNOW,
JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WE WERE DOWN
IN THE 3% AREA.
NOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH
UNEMPLOYMENT RATES THAT ARE THE
HIGHEST SINCE THE GREAT
DEPRESSION.
HOWEVER, LET'S PUT THAT IN
CONTEXT.
WE HAD 20% UNEMPLOYMENT RATES
FOR YEARS BACK IN THE 1930s.
WE'VE ONLY HAD THESE DOUBLE-
DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT RATES FOR A
FEW MONTHS.
I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE, WE DO NOT
HAVE GOOD MODELS FOR
UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE ECONOMY
IS GOING AT A TIME LIKE THIS.
IT'S JUST TOO SOON TO SAY HOW
LONG WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THIS
HISTORIC LEVEL OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
>> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT, GREG
IP, CHIEF ECONOMICS COMMENTATOR
FOR THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL."
THANKS SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT, BYE.