Practice English Speaking&Listening with: Historybounding Panel: Wear your Historical Best, Every Day! [CC]

Normal
(0)
Difficulty: 0

***Skip to the 9:00 mark for the actual panel to start***

I think, my friends, we're live!

Yes... I'm frozen, okay, I can see myself.

Welcome everyone! *echo: I think, my friends, we're live*

I need to mute something...sh* up... Okay, sorry for the technical difficulties...

Uh, welcome everyone to the history bounding panel:

'Your Historical Best Every Day' my name is Shari,

Pronouns she/her *echo: welcome...*

*echoing continues* please bear with us!

*echoing continues* please bear with us!

*echoing continues* please bear with us!

*echoing continues* please bear with us!

*echoing continues* please bear with us!

*more echoing*

*Dutch problem solving*

Okay, welcome everyone! Excuse us for the technical difficulties.

We had all our mics muted but still we had some feedback loop.

So I hope everyone can hear us now without any feedback, um...

This is the history bounding panel, your Historical Best Every Day. My name

is Shari, I am the owner of La Rose Passementarie,

and I came up with this idea a couple of months ago,

when I wrote a blog for 'Modemuse' about history bounding.

Which coincided with Desiree from Designed by Desiree, her #homeboundhistorybound

challenge on instagram. And I know Juul has some

amazing history bounding looks, which she shared in a video on her

channel, which you can view here. So I thought it would be a great

idea to have this panel together! And we have also a challenge on

instagram #historyboundbest, uh, where you can

upload your history bounding looks and even collect a special badge. We will

be sharing some of those historybounding books later on,

and we will also be answering some of your questions.

You can leave them in the chat and we will come back to them.

*more echoing...*

So there's still an echo...

I have completely muted myself so

I have no idea what everyone's saying.

So I just tried to shut down everything on my computer, so I hope that helps...

Let's just wait a few seconds until we can can or cannot hear the echo... *echo* I do still have echo wife here but I

have no idea where it's coming from.

So uh friends, can you close your...

any browser on your laptop and just watch stream on your

telephone? That might help? *wishful scramblings of YouTubeNoob*

So I hope people in this in the chat can tell us if it's still

going wrong, or if we're good now.

It might be me. I'm the cyborg here, so there's a lot of technology going on

in my head, which might be messing with our streams.

I think we're good now.

Bart Kools says he misses my band-aid... okay

I'm going to talk again testing is there still a echo?

No echo...

Not on my side, no. Let's see what the chat says.

*even more echoing*

S. Okay I have plugged in... put in some earplugs, so hopefully there

will be no echo anymore.

Please let me know if it starts up again. Let me completely restart, so

everyone hears this in a echo-free manner and hopefully not

annoying way.

So again, welcome everyone to the history bounding panel

Your Historical Best Every Day. My name is Shari

from La Rose Passementarie, and I came up with this idea a few months ago,

when I was writing a history bounding blog for 'Modemuse',

which at that time coincided with the challenge from Desiree from Designed by

Desiree, her #historyboundbest... oh I'm sorry

#homeboundhistorybound challenge, and

I've also seen so many wonderful history-bounding

looks by Juul on this channel. Check out our video when you can! So I

thought: let's have this panel together! So much

more fun! Um, right now it's the afternoon in the

Netherlands, but we know a lot of people around the

world are watching and a lot of people have shared their

#historyboundbest looks on instagram, which we will be sharing later on.

And we will talk about what is history bounding to us,

answer some questions, and we will also answer some of yours. So you can leave

them in the chat, and I will come back to them later on.

For now, I would like to introduce these wonderful ladies and have them answer

some questions about history bounding. So let's start with Desiree, could you

please introduce yourself and share your pronouns?

D. Hello everyone, my name is Desiree, my last name is Theunissen. There's no way

to pronounce that in English. So the translation of that is

'primrose' so that's why my channel name is Desiree Primrose.

I run the company called Designed by Desiree,

I make commissioned clothing with a big *big* weak spot for everything

historical and history bounding. I am working on

making patterns, but due to, um well, my ADHD, things are not always going

as planned. So that's currently taking a bit longer than I had

hoped it would, but it's still going. I released a YouTube video just earlier

this CoCoVid, about drafting/ pattern drafting for beginners.

And that's the Edwardian corset cover,

based on that original. So... *waits for Juul to get her act together*

J. Ah, so I guess it's my turn now to introduce myself.

Welcome everybody to my channel, my name is Juul,

pronouns she/her. Ehm, well I'm really glad to be a part of

this history-bound panel! Ehm I've been

into costuming since 2011and I started out doing performances in

costume, and gradually learning to sew costumes.

And now I like to make historical costumes and I'm a big history bounding

lover. And I would also like to

address the fact that we don't have live captioning today,

because that was a very technical, well, very big technical problem. Ehm,

I will be correcting the automatically generated captions

as soon as I can for everyone who needs them. *future editingJuul reporting to duty*

S. And then we will go to the next question: What does history bounding mean to you?

Desiree? D. Historybounding for me, is a way to

well, show who I am without words. I guess that's true for everyone who

likes to wear a certain outfit or certain style of clothing.

It's a way to express yourself and I've always loved

dresses and and everything girly and princessy since I was really young.

Ehm, I think I... can't even remember when it was the first time I

watched the Empress Sissy trilogy on television.

Ehm, ever since then my my heart was sold to everything that was girly and

princessy and fairy-like and I really

enjoy to have a way to express my sense of elegance and my ideals of

aesthetic with the world this way.

J. So the question was what does history bounding means to us,

right? To me it means a lot of freedom actually! So ehm

there are a lot of fashion styles where there are a lot of 'rules'

or if you dress vintage there can be some pressure,

to ehm,

or if you dress historically accurate... to dress completely accurately from top to bottom? And I like

history bounding because it gives you a lot of freedom to mix and match

things and ehm... Well the other thing I like about

history bounding, is that I can use the stuff I love and

wear it more often, so those pretty clothes that I made

they're not somewhere in my cupboard, waiting for that one (or two) events a

year, I can just wear them whenever I want!

And that's why I love about history bounding. So,

Shari, what does it -what does it mean to you, why is it important to you?

S. What does history bounding mean to me? Well, I've been

historybounding for a while before I even knew it was called 'history bounding'.

I have a huge passion for, uh, historical fashion in all its aspects.

To me wearing an historical outfit doesn't mean

a 'dressing up costume'. It means wearing something that I've made with a

lot of love, and care, and time. But is very extravagant and nothing -

not always for every day. But you go back to

like, a normal t-shirt and skirt, nothing wrong with

that, but feels a little bit like, that other part

of me is just 'dressing up'. While history bounding for me, is

carrying on that passion for historical fashion throughout

every day. Be it a pair of Victorian boots or

antique jewellery, but keeping that romantic and historical passion

back into my everyday style. Which is ME, it's not dressing up, it's not creating a

different persona, it's me. So history bounding allows me to always

wear that passion. And I would love to hear from you Desiree,

What is your favourite antique item to wear with your history

bounding? D. My favourite antique item... well just two

months ago I have gotten engaged, and my amazing

fiancee gave me an antique ring from 1910! So

that has got to be my most favourite history bounding item that I

wear every day. I can show you, I think, if the camera picks it

up. Juul, what is your favourite history

bounding item? J. Well, I had a lot prepared, but now I have

to cross them al out because my favourite

history bounding item is your ring! Lovely

Ah that's so romantic, I love it! Ehm, no, well, my favourite

history bounding things that are like, antique items,

are mainly petticoats. Because usually they are very sturdy

and I dare to use and wear them and not destroy them.

Because I destroy things. So petticoats are a favourite of mine and

well as Desiree's ring, I think antique jewellery is also a favourite of

mine to wear, because it's really easy to add that to

your daily outfit. So that's uh yeah that's a 'top tip':

jewellery! And Shari, how about you?

S. My favourite antique item to wear is purchased quite recently.

The three of us went to a museum, where we were able to purchase

antique clothing and and uh haberdashery. And I bought a late Victorian

silk skirt which I completely restored and reinforced, because

it had some holes in it but it wasn't museum quality...

and made it to my measurements and put a new waistband on... And it's purple

patterned and it has beautiful ruffles and ruching around the hem and I can

wear it without a hoop skirt. I can wear it every day if I wish, and it's

so wonderful to be wearing something with my size and length

from the late Victorian area, but I can wear it every day if I wish, to so that's

my favourite item. One that I very much treasure. And

for everyone starting with history bounding (or maybe you're already history

bounding) some tips to share. Desiree, if you could start with your favourite

tip or advice for history bounding?

D. My favourite tip would be: don't put your own bar

too high! Just go for whatever you like. Thrift stores are amazing. It's

totally totally fine if something is not actually

antique, if it's just a historical vibe. There was an Edwardian revival period

in the 70s, so maybe you can find something from that, or maybe a blouse

with ruffles from the 80s and just go for what you like like. Juul

already mentioned, there's no exact rules in

historybounding, 'this is okay' and 'this is not okay'. There's no

at least in my - I hope there's not any gatekeeping. Like, 'wHat YOu aRe DoINg

is Not ReAlly aCtuAlLy hIStoRy bOuNdIng!' If you just want to do your hair in

historical style, that's also history bounding. Just

do what you feel like fits you.

So yeah, and Juul, how is that for you?

J. Well I agree with you because that's the joy of

history bounding, wearing what you love not what you

'should' wear following your own rules and

expressing your love of, yeah, history - historical fashion. So I wrote down some

things - some tips for you guys as well...

in my notes. Ehm.. ah, I have a practical tip. Whenever you make or buy things,

try to make them multi-purpose. So what I like to do is

for example: a skirt. I like to make a historically accurate...

...ish skirt and then I can wear it for costuming,

but also wear it for daily wear. So before I make or buy the thing I already

think about 'how can I put it to different uses?' So I

think that's great for beginners, because nobody starts out with a complete

wardrobe. So if things are multipurpose that's,

yeah, a big plus. And, what else, ehm

Buy secondhand, of course.

Maybe you won't find antique items, but you can find

things with a historical 'feel'. And my last tip is

to tell people around you, and this is really for beginners

one of my best best advice: Tell people around you 'I like old things!

I like old clothes!' and probably someone has an attic

with old things, or bits of lace, or sewing supplies

or fabrics, or clothes. And maybe they will be nice enough to

give them to you, donate them to you or think about you when they see something

at a flea market. So uh, yeah, I think that works really

well. You'll get a lot of rubbish. But you'll

also get a lot of nice things. So Shari, can you share your secret

advice with us for history bounding?

S. My apologies for the late reply. Because of the echo issues

I can only listen to the live feed which is lagging some seconds behind which is

maybe sometimes why I look so blankly into nothing

when funny things are happening, because I only hear them 30 seconds later (omg Shari you are a trooper coping with this)

Ehm, my tip/ advice: It's not about historical accuracy. It's

about the feel or the look of a certain period. You are

very welcome to mix the periods. And it's about feeling comfortable

and wearing something daily. You don't have to just do it on

on special occasions. If your work allows it,

do it while you - wear your outfit while going to work.

Sometimes it can be easiest to start with something like a

shoe. Wear a Victorian shoe to work. People might not

even notice it's Victorian, but you will! You can start out with little items,

before you make complete looks like full head to body

history bounding looks. That might be a step too far for you.

You might want to start with something little. Ehm, and again what

Juul and Desiree already said, vintage, secondhand,

let everyone know that you're collecting old items.

Ehm, and see what attracts you to a certain period. If

that's the hairdo, do the hairdo. If it's a hat,

do a hat. If it's a beautiful viking warrior goddess...

be a Viking warrior goddess, or wear your best

lace around your neck. It's - it's not about rules, it's what you make of it, and

what you feel happy with. And feeling happy about history bounding

is where we all started. So I would love to

hear from you, Desiree, how did you start wearing history bounding?

D. How did I start... ehm, I think there's a fine line between

when is something 'just normal clothing' and when is it historybounding.

Currently there's a lot of things in fashion that have

puffy sleeves you could call that historybounding, that's

perfectly fine. I don't know exactly when I started to enjoy this.

I've always liked different silhouettes than

the silhouette that was in fashion at the time. I was a kid

in the 90s. I can tell you, I drove my mom crazy with wanting to wear dresses

while dresses were absolutely not in vogue. And

if they were, they had this dropped waist, at least in the beginning of the 90s,

and that's just not what I wanted. I wanted the 'Sissy silhouette'!

So yeah, I yeah... I don't really know when to tell you when I started.

It's I think, when I made more historical clothing

for costuming that I just started to wear it

for picnics and other events when I wanted to

dress a bit fancier, that I just thought:

Well why not wear my history historical clothing?

And yeah, I ended up wearing my Victorian bustle dress to our student

association's gala. So yeah,

I guess that's about it.

How's this going for you? J: Yeah, for me, ehm, I've always been dressing

'alternatively' and um I've always loved like,

when I when I was still into music, when I could still hear,

I loved performers and bands who dressed up with, uh, underwear,

historical underwear as outerwear. Stuff like that, it was so

magical to me.But I didn't incorporate historical

items in my wardrobe until I realised that the costumes I

was making, could also be seen as not costumes, but

clothes. So I started treating them as clothes,

and not as costumes. Or not as 'dress-up costumes'.

And the way I made them also changed. So I tried to make them 'actual clothes',

comfortable, and that's when I started thinking: I

could wear these more often. Because they're comfortable,

and I love them. So that's when I started um well, history bounding I think.

And of course I only heard of the term because of the video of the lovely

Morgan Donner, so that's when it got a label. But uh,

I've been doing it quite a bit before then.

So I think i'm going to give over the question to Shari now.

Um I don't really think I have an official start ing date, like these other

ladies also said, because we've always had a big

passion and love for historical fashion that it creeped into our wardrobe

without us even noticing, I think. I started wearing gothic clothes when I

was 13, but it was always very like the 'romantic' side or the 'historical' side.

So that also filtered in into wearing a lot of

antique items, or vintage items, and wearing heirlooms. And then

I stopped wearing goth clothes for every day, and it became

more historical. So I've always, if I've seen a blouse and I -

in like a normal, regular store, and it had

like puffy sleeves, or looked Victorian or Edwardian, I would immediately buy it.

Or I went vintage shopping or thrift store shopping with my mom, and I

came across antique items I would wear it every day. I would look if things were

'museum quality'. I don't wear that stuff, but if I could wear it respectfully and

not wear it to shreds, I would do so. And

term history bounding is relatively new, so almost all my life, I mean as a kid, I

tried to wear 18th century clothes. That was my 'princess wear' so

for me it's been so long I don't remember to recall

the start date. And I would love to hear from all of you

ladies, your current beautiful history bounding looks. Because we have quite some

variety here. I'd say, explain your grandeur with the

lace and everything, you look wonderful! D. Thank you so much Shari! Ehm yeah, I'm

wearing an antique collar. I don't wear this

really often because, yeah it's kind of fragile and

it's silk and it's antique, so. It's really beautiful I don't think the

camera picks it up really well, I mean, maybe can I -

hopefully I can show you guys a bit

better

It's really really pretty. It's silk,

there is this beautiful shine to it. It's handmade.

I love it a lot. I bought it when I was on a holiday in London.

It was more expensive than I normally would spend on things, but

I really loved it, so I did buy it. Ehm, the rest of my look is, I'm wearing a

shirt that has a bit of a puffed sleeve it's just main street fashion. I own it

already for I think about 10 years now, so. Yeah.

And yeah, my hair is just 'up'. I don't know if this is really a

particular historical style. I would love to have the volume

like Bernadette Banner has in her Edwardian style,

but my hair won't do that. My hair does curl, so let's just make the most of that.

J. So Desiree, someone's asking me in the chat:

Is it crochet lace? But I don't think so, right?

D. I don't think it's crocheted, no. I think it's

ehm, bobbin lace. I'll post a picture on my instagram later today with a close-up,

because I just don't know how good the camera picks it up. I think it picks it

up but I'm not really sure but close-ups are in

pictures are always better than on camera with a webcam, I think.

Juul, what are you wearing, tell us a bit more!

J. I'm wearing my daily viking look. So, ehm, this looks like a shirt, but it's

actually a ...shirt dress. Just

from a shop here in the Netherlands: HEMA. You all know, HEMA, right?

And this is a like an apron dress, a viking

apron dress from an historically accurate pattern,

but not a historically accurate fabric. And I have these lovely

brooches which cost me an arm and a leg, so I have to wear them more often

then once a year. And I have the milkmaid braids going on, which is just like

'vaguely historically, will do'. And a little viking hat

with - with moth holes in it.

So ehm, that's my history bounding outfit for today. So I'm going to ask the same

to Shari, if you can tell us about your

fabulousness as well. S. I am wearing a store-bought blouse, a

cotton blouse with lace insertion, and puffy

sleeves. it's wonderful to wear. I'm wearing an item that we also

bought together. It's an original Victorian gentleman's necktie

which I added a ribbons to, so I can actually attach it. Because normally, it

will be attached to a different collar. I have an original late Victorian hat,

which I hope you can see. It has bows on it. And

and my hairdo is also inspired about late Victorian.

The hat pin I made myself, It's also Victorian inspired.

And my Edward- my earrings are original silver mark Edwardian earrings.

And you can't see but I'm wearing a three-quarter length, uh, black satin

duchess skirt with flock print, but it's pleated

like an 18th century petticoat only it has a zipper and a

hook and eye closure. And then my glasses are 50s inspired so I'm kind of all over

the place, uh, but hopefully you can see that it's

still a little bit coordinated, it still fits.

I'm feeling my inner Mary Poppins, which is a good thing. So

that's, uh, my look for today. And it's incredibly comfortable to wear.

History bounding is trending right now, it's completely

popular, it's almost like mainstream. You can see blogs, we have videos

and why is that? What are your thoughts about this, why do you think

is such a popular 'thing'.

D. I think it's popular and

trending, because it now has a name. I think a lot of

people were doing this and had their aesthetic that they

liked which would be reflected in history.

Ehm, and I think that it's now something that people

know how to name. And especially because it has a name,

we can find other people who enjoy it as well. Because of the internet, it's way

more easier to connect to each other, and I think that really really helps. I

think historical costuming in general is really

growing currently also because of YouTube channels like Bernadette Banner

are getting really, really popular at the moment.

So that really helps. But I also think it's something that,

like i said, has been going on for as long as fashion is a thing

if you look back at the Victorian era there were

these tea gowns that had Watteu pleats on the back.

They didn't invent that, like 'oh let's have pleats on the back'.

No, they saw portraits and had surviving items maybe from the 18th century,

from the robe a la francaise, that had those pleats.

And I think you can go back in fashion and make so many connections

where - where the people look back at history

from the earlier time, and reflected that. I mean, there's

obviously some Greek/ Roman influence going on in

the regency era, but also at the - at around 1910s

1900s, like in the Edwardian era, there's also this Greek

influence. So I think it's been - even the people that were using that as

inspiration were also doing history bounding.

J. Yeah, I think you said it all, Desiree, I think we've been taking inspiration from

fashions before us for a long time... and now

it's just - it has another name. And I agree, it's popular because

historical sewing is popular. I think people have these things, and want to

wear them. And I think

it's also popular because with historybounding you don't have to commit

100%, you know.

You don't have to worry about being perfect or accurate, so I think that

makes it a very attractive style to, uh,

to adapt. So yeah..

S. When I wrote my blog for 'Modemuse' (which is a Dutch

fashion institute) about historybounding, I tried to look at

what - where the name originated from, who started it.

And the only thing I could find was that Leslie Kay,

a couple of years ago, started wearing outfits inspired by Disney characters

while 'bound for Disney', so she called it

Disneybounding, where that transcended into history

bounding I don't know, but it's like a logical connection if

you have such a big passion for historical fashion,

and the way it's made, and the materials, and the look

and the craft behind it, it follows logically that

it trickles down into your everyday wardrobe.

There's more emphasis on, ehm, crediting

designers for historical costumed movies, and we have great lengths of is

it historically accurate or not, or is it a great modern interpretation.

Nowadays we know who those designers are, where

like, 20 years ago, we didn't know we didn't -

they didn't get credit and so forth. So historical fashion

has in a way gotten mainstream. Like I said you could go to

the H&M and buy this Victorian-style blouse,

so it's easier to incorporate it in your wardrobe.

And it's also logical if you love historical fashion so much, that you

wear it every day but in more functional way.

I'm not saying historical fashion is not functional, but if you want to

ride a bike wearing an Edwardian walking skirt, three quarters length,

stuff like that. So I think it's like a natural flow that

where we're at. I don't think one person originated it,

there are people of course, or costumers, that made it very popular

and given a lot of inspiration, and ideas, and ways to sew along with them.

But I don't think it started with one person. But I'm very glad

it's a thing in which everyone can-

Juul wanted to say something? J. Yeah S. Because I've been

taking a look at the screen because I can't hear you.

J. Oh, okay, so i've been taking a look at the

chats and Shari, ehm, how did you make your hatpin?

Someone wants to know!

S. Mhm. Oh, it's uh, it's a store-bought hatpin,

it's from a shop that no longer exists, I have them in my webshop but

shorter. You add beads to them because the - the end of the hatpin is

is the pointy end is - stick 'em with the pointy end - and the other one is flat.

So you just thread beads on them, and ornaments or

roses, and then you put a back of an earring

to keep it in place. So here's the flat end,

here's the bead, here's the earring back. And then you have a

decorated hatpin!

Ehm, let's see what is next on the agenda... I'm a little

from my ow - from my list because of the technical difficulties.

Oh yeah, we're gonna answer some questions.

We answered a lot of our questions, gave tips,

but we would love to answer yours as well. So we're going to have a look

through the chat pick out some questions and I think Juul

is going to go first?

J. I want to ask a question, uh, that I found in the chat I'm going to start with

Desiree and then Shari. So the question was if you only had one

era to history bound from, which era

would you choose? Desiree? D. For me that would definitely be the

Edwardian era. I just really love the aesthetic and the

full swooshy skirts and narrow waist that's just the - the

silhouette, this just really makes my heart flutter. So

yes, definitely Edwardian.

S. Oh well I love Edwardian i think Edwardian and Victorian

are almost the easiest one to history bound, because

they are not always dependent on, like the silhouette, for a hoop skirt, so

you can make three quarter length skirts without hoop skirts

just wear a bustle pad if you would. Again

go to Juul's history bounding looks video, because she

she shows you. Ehm but I love Victorian and I love the ruffles,

lace, intricate pleating, but that also occurs in the Edwardian period. So I would

say, late 19th century - early 20th century: that time frame

for me is the most successful and I love it to history bound.

J. Yeah for me, I would just refuse to answer the question.

I want them all.

D. You greedy! J. I will refuse! This is my channel!

I will refuse! So I don't know if you have -

have you found any questions Desiree? D. Ehm, I've been looking to the chat, I can't

really see a question so quickly, but my chat is not really responding

I think adequately, so maybe I've just missed it.

I do want to mention Kendra van Cleave has a lovely lovely lecture on her

facebook site about looking back in fashion and

fashion revival. It's really wonderful I really learned a

ton, so I can highly, highly recommend it. And also I remembered suddenly: when I was

in London I visited the store of Alexander McQueen.

Now the first floor and the second floor, there's just

their 'ready to wear' line. If you want to pay 800 euros -

-ah- if you want to pay 800 pounds for a sweater, go right ahead,

that's your place to shop! But if you are interested in his fashion

you can walk up to the top floor, and there is an exhibition of his

work and it was amazing! I cannot recommend it

enough to go there if you're ever in London!

And because they also showed part of his process

and the mock-ups - gosh people the mock-ups -

That's that's just how, it's how fashion should be made. How I would love

to be able to make fashion. Just make 13 mock-ups

of the same thing in the real fabric, just so you know that what you want is

exactly how you'll get it. That's just amazing to me, and they

did some - such interesting things, they had

garments there that was, ehm, photo- they took pictures of antique garments and

they use that picture as a print for their fabric.

And they had for example a mourning cape and they had a

Christening gown, and they had another dress that they laid flowers on

top and then photocopied the dress with the flowers on top, and used that as -

printed that as a fabric to use to make a dress.

It's just, yeah, that's really highly recommended if you are ever there,

visit that place!

Did you find any questions in the chat

for Juul?

J. I think Shari has some! S. Okay, it's my turn? A question.

When making - uh - what are the best pieces to start with for a history bounding closet,

for transition from modern? From Rachel Cavanaugh.

I think, uh, this is not to self-promote, but I'm currently doing a sew along

for an 1890s shirt waist, and afterwards we're going to do an 1890s

walking skirt, which will I will do three quarter

length but others can do, of course, the original ankle length.

Those pieces can be worn without a corset or, if you

add another hook on your skirt, with corsets. So it's easy

to go from your -histori- history bounding, uh, wardrobe, to

your historical wardrobe. And they're quite easy to make. There's not a lot of

fitting especially with the shirt waist, as long as it fits across the

shoulders and the collar, the waist and the bust is quite flowy.

And, uh, again with the skirt, you only have to fit

your waist and there's not a hoop skirt underneath. You don't have

to fit the hips very much, so that's very easy to start with. You

can find those sew-alongs on facebook and I can share a

link later on. But stuff like that, like simple like

tops and skirts, or like the wraps or a capelette.

A capelette is great for the winter, you can just throw it over your modern

winter coat and it's- it looks adorable and it keeps you extra warm.

And when it's too warm for your winter coat, you just wear it like this. So

separates, I think, are the best way to go. Make something that is not extremely

form-fitting if you're new to sewing. But you can look at the silhouette

and see: oh the pleating, or the type of fabric

refers to a historical period, and it's easy and accessible to wear every day.

So that's why, ehm, 19th century and early 20th century I think is the best

because if you go, like, to 18th century there's a lot of pattern

modification and silhouette modification to make it more wearable. It is doable,

check out Bernadette Banner, she has a robe a la Anglaise she wears -

she can wear without a corset or without stays. And it looks wonderful, so

that's why I think those tips might be best for beginners.

So if Juul, you want to do another question and I

can look up something. J. I found two questions that I can answer

real quickly. The first one is how about thigh chafing.

So, the answer is: either

uh, cycling shorts or long underwear long historical underwear,

and you're good. And then, the hardest part about history

bounding? I saw that one as well. And to me the hardest part is: I want to

wear everything at once! I only have one body, so that's the

hardest part how can I choose one thing to wear? Ah! And

That's the hardest part because you have to choose

So Desiree: *Juul mutes herself*

D. Juul you went on mute, I cannot hear you anymore!

J. Sorry Desiree, go ahead. D. Okay, I

found a few more questions from *name* How can you make

histoybounding practical? I love big skirts but I can't wear skirts to work.

That's- if you really can't wear skirts to work,

there are professions where you just can't,

If you can't wear a skirt, you can't wear a skirt, that's just how it is.

You could however do things with your hair, with jewellery,

shoe wear. There's smaller things that you can do,

that give you that feel or aesthetic. It won't be the same feeling as having a

twirling skirt around your legs, but if you are in a job where you are

just not capable of wearing skirts that will just have to do I guess. Or

maybe i don't know what kind of work you do, but maybe you could wear like,

um, a longer top that is almost like a very very short dress

over trousers. Maybe that would work for you.

Ehm yeah.

This I think, that would be the best solution for this.

And I also found a question, I can't really

remember from who... oh from Sandy (?): Should I wait until I've made the

corset, before I make my other clothes. Ehm yes and no. If you want to history

bound: no, you don't. If you want to make a

capelet you don't have to have a corset made to wear a capelet, especially

if you're not going to wear a corset daily. Why would you need to have a

corset to make a capelet? Or to make a skirt. There are always, ehm,

like 18th century skirts, where you have the two ties going to the back and front,

but you can make it so that you can wear it with or without

stays or a corset, So that would make it very versatile for wearing with

historybounding every day, or for your fancy costume with the stays or

the corset. So that's what I would say. I know it's a

bit of a popular opinion in the historical

costuming world that you should always start with your

undergarments. Yes, but not if you're historyboundin

and there's no need for that. If you want to make the pretty: make the pretty.

You can always try and ask for ways of how to make things more adaptable for

a modern day wardrobe. I think there's always ways to

do that. So I

think- S. Okay I have a few questions that require short answers

that I'm just gonna answer quickly, before we're going to share your

wonderful history bounding looks. Shameless self-promotion: I am a sales

point of American Duchess and those shoes

are actually extremely comfortable to wear and I have a bad back,

not great feet, and I can wear them all day long.

Even on all streets, cobbled streets and everything. So

for me, wearing American Dutchess shoes or boots you have something

historical which you can wear every day that are comfortable. So

those are great to wear for historybounding, but

also they're historically accurate for your historical wardrobe. So they're

great all over. I mean my mom has a pair of black Pompadours

and she, by accident, made a pair of trousers with exactly the same print,

which are also black. And she wears them together to the office.

Works! Patterns! I love Black Snail patterns again, I also

sell them in my web shop. But it's not only

about self-promotion: Truly Victorian is a go to for

eh, like I said before late 18th, 19th century - early 20th century patterns.

Because not all of them are- not all of them require a corset or

hoop skirt. Those are easily transferable to

historybounding. Again like, the walking skirt I discussed:

wear it three quarter lengths: you can still bike,

do stuff around the house, go to work. It hasn't-

doesn't have a lot of volume like a bustleskirt or a hoop

would have. It's like it says: a walking skirt.

Uh, bicycle outfits are great for history bounding especially if you have to work

around and do stuff, those outfits were made

to move around in so they are easily transferable to history bounding.

So just look out for those patterns that are

from those eras and/or are easily shortened or the volume taken out.

That makes it easy, I think. Oh this one is very funny, Juul also typed this to us:

Do we have an amazingly big wardrobe? No. I wish. I have a walk-in closet, but

that also contains my modern stuff. My husband has the other

wall, because he also wears historical stuff.

That is the beauty of history bounding: you made a skirt that doesn't require

hoop skirt? Wear it as history bounding, wear it as your

historical clothing. Like this is an antique hat, I can wear

it with my original- my Victorian

outfit but also, like today, with my historybounding outfit. So

it's making creative use of your full wardrobe. It doesn't mean you have

a complete history bounding wardrobe or a completely historically

accurate wardrobe: it means combining the two,

and wearing them in whatever way you please. Because

that's how it works. So I wish, I wish I had every period with all the underwear

and the shoes and the accessories like a full house of historical clothing.

We all wish that, I think, but we don't. So. However we can show you some

inspiration! I mean we've hopefully inspired you with our

looks, but we're going to show you some amazing history bounding looks. I have a

powerpoint which I'm gonna set up. J. I also want to

quickly mention- I also want to quickly mention that

our badge code will be in the powerpoint. So for all the badgers out there: grab

that code, claim your badge!

Oh yay, there it is!

oh i love-

D.These looks that have been shared - J. -I LOVE THIS ONE I LOVE THIS ONE

-So cute - ah

D. This is so many great looks, and so many styles you can do-

it's just wonderful, and these wonderful- -oh I love this

I love them, wonderful- -One of my favorites

Oh yes

S. It was hard choosing because otherwise this panel would take

three hours.

J.So cute, i love this - -With the mask

S. This is a- the wedding dress is cute D. that wedding dress is amazing

J. Yay those were great! S. Yes! I will be sharing this powerpoint again,

so don't worry about that. First of all, I'm gonna give the word to

Desiree. She's going to tell you, if you still want to

participate in the history bound challenge, the #historyboundbest

challenge, how to get the badge, how does it al work. So Desiree:

D. Yes, ehm, Historybounding, uh, we have the 'history bound best'

hashtag on instagram. You can use that to share your history bound best

looks with us. We will try and share as many of

them in our instagram stories as well. If you tag

your location with your post, that means that other

people in that location can easily find that for you-

find you with that. Ehm, especially I do want to say: share them in your feed, not

on your stories, because we can't find pictures that are

in stories, unfortunately. I wish we could, but I just

don't know how to. Maybe that's just my um,

thing that I don't know but I haven't been able to figure out how. So please

post your pictures in your feed, make sure your account is set to public

so that we can find them. And others can find you if you tag your location.

Because historybounding is growing so much, and we now have this name

for the thing what we all love, that means that

there's- you might think you're alone in your area,

but you might not be, and just don't know it!

So that is why we decided to make this worldwide history bounding meeting.

So please, use the hashtag, tag your location,

and hopefully you'll be able to find people that are in your

area that you can hopefully, one day when the situation is

no longer the way it is right now, *yes we're looking at you miss 'Rona* actually have

live meetups. So, ehm, that's one thing. And we will be

having meetups in the Netherlands.

Uh I think that will be eh, Shari will be arranging meetings

J. Yeah Shari, you can say something about the meetups, I think?

Poor Shari, with the lag... S. Yes, we talking about meetups? I am going to

organise a history bounding, safe distance

uh, public uh, meeting. I think we're gonna do a picnic.

I have a facebook group, a Dutch facebook group called: *PREPARE FOR SOME HARDCORE DUTCH*

'Historische kleding, hoeden en accessoires maken', wherein I will post a poll in which we

can choose a location together and a date, and then we're going to have like a

historybounding picnic. So wear your history bounding,

we'll keep our 'social distance', we'll be out in the open in a safe manner,

and then we can find our fellow historybounders. And

maybe you would like to organize something like this in your area, or your

country, or do it online. I have, uh, online

sewing meetups like, almost every week. And it's such fun to see each other

again, even though you can't do so in person. So

do so in a safe way. And we would like to

thank you so much for joining us! Apologies for the technical difficulties.

Captions will be up later *yay, future editing Juul is almost done doing the captions* and we had so much fun

organising this, and sharing your wonderful looks

and it's such an inspiration. And I hope we've helped you starting

history bounding, or maybe with your new history bounding looks.

And we're gonna show you the powerpoint again,

because once was not enough! Have a wonderful day everybody, bye!

J. Bye everybody! D. Thank you for watching, we loved having you!

S. Ah, it's not working!

The Description of Historybounding Panel: Wear your Historical Best, Every Day! [CC]