Hi, I'm Dominic Patten, senior editor,
and chief TV critic
for Deadline Hollywood, and I'm so glad to be back
at Comic-Con, this year especially at Comic-Con@Home.
So welcome to our Star Trek Universe panel
at this year's San Diego Comic-Con@Home.
Now I'm joined here today by Alex Kurtzman
and Heather Kayden, who serve as executive producers
of the three series that we'll be featuring in today's
Star Trek Universe panel.
Star Trek: Discovery, Star Trek: Lower Decks,
Star Trek: Picard.
Hi Heather and Alex, thank you so much for joining us.
Now one of the things that we've seen
in the past several years is the Star Trek Universe
is always expanding, so can you tell us a little bit
about what's ahead?
Absolutely. Well, first of all Dom, thank you so much
for having us, and we're very sad not to be
at Hall H this year with our Star Trek family
in San Diego, but we're really excited that people
still get to hear all about it.
Let me ask you this.
Now, in the past couple of months we've,
of course, heard the great news
about Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.
Iconic characters coming back with their own series.
Give us a sense of where that's at.
Alright, so obviously we heard the fans.
I really wanted to tell everybody about it
last Comic-Con, people were poking around,
and asking questions, and we couldn't say anything.
But we were already having real active conversations
at that point.
The room has started.
There are 10 stories broken, which is very exciting,
and they're just sort of at the beginning,
but it was one of those shows that I think
everybody came in with such enthusiasm, and so much love.
Now Heather, as we talk about live-action Star Trek,
and there, of course, are several series,
and we're gonna see many of them today,
there's also animated Star Trek coming.
Heather, can you give us a sense of what we're gonna see
in that version of this world.
Yeah, so in addition to Lower Decks,
which we'll talk about a little later,
we're developing a new show for kids
on Nickelodeon that the talented Hageman brothers
are developing and showrunning
that we're super excited about, for kids to have a way
into the Star Trek brand.
And we're officially announcing today
that the title of that show will be
Star Trek: Prodigy.
Now talking about that Alex, talking about today,
what are we gonna see today? With
the Star Trek Universe panel that we have
You are going to see, on the Discovery side,
a live reading of the finale of Season 2.
You are then going to have a brief Q&A
with the cast afterwards, then you're gonna have
a Q&A with the cast of Star Trek: Picard.
But in between those two,
you're gonna have a Q&A with Mike McMahan and Lower Decks.
So you're gonna get to meet the actors
and see some artwork,
and enjoy Lower Decks.
So, you see, guys, even though we're doing Comic-Con at home
this year and not doing it in front of thousands of you
in Hall H, we're delivering a full Star Trek package.
I wanna go back to what we were just talking about again,
because, let's be honest, we're doing Comic-Con at home,
but we're all living here in this world.
And plus, you know, obviously the coronavirus
is keeping us apart from each other this year,
but there's a lot of other things going on in this country
and around the world, and sometimes I feel like art
can speak to some of those issues,
perhaps even more than politics can,
specifically when we talk about Star Trek
inclusion, diversity, outreach.
I want to know what you guys think about the message
of Star Trek in the America and in the world
that we're living in today.
I think we're all so proud to be working on a show
that has a message that really matters
and really resonates.
I think anyone who does what they do
on this side of the camera, on the other side of the camera
is hoping to say something.
And I think what's great when you're working on genre
is you often get to say things about current events,
and mask them so they don't feel like medicine,
or that you're being taught something.
And I think in the case of Star Trek, thematically
it's just been baked into what Star Trek is
about a better hope, about equality, gender equality,
racial equality, sexual equality.
I mean, it's what it is.
And you know, we've seen in the past few weeks
on the Star Trek social media platforms #StarTrekUnited.
Alex, can you give us a sense about what that is telling us?
Star Trek, really since its inception, has always...
it's endeavored to speak to the vision that we are all
fortunate enough to live in every day.
It's unfortunately not the vision that the rest of the world
is living in, but we live in this perfect world where,
as Heather said, everybody really is united,
and a lot of the differences that are
dividing us these days are gone.
So Star Trek United is an effort to bring awareness
to many of the organizations that are critical right now,
Black Lives Matter, the NAACP. A lot of our cast
speaking to that, Star Trek speaking to it.
The goal is not really to promote Star Trek,
but to promote these organizations, and to use
our platform to be able to bring greater awareness
to these very, very important messages and places.
Well, that's a very worthy use of a very powerful platform.
Thank you Heather, thank you Alex for joining us today.
Thanks so much.
Now, I'm excited to introduce the first portion
of the Star Trek Universe panel featuring
the Season 2 cast of CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery,
who all came together for a special virtual table read
of the first act of the epic Season 2 finale,
"Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2".
So be sure to stick around after this virtual reading
because the cast are gonna do a Q&A.
And now, without further ado,
here's the Star Trek: Discovery Executive Producer,
and Co-Showrunner, Michelle Paradise, to kick things off.
Hi everyone, my name is Michelle Paradise.
I am the co-showrunner, and one of the executive producers
of Star Trek: Discovery, and thank you
for joining us today as we do a virtual table read
of act one of our Season 2 finale,
"Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2," because it was
a two-part finale. It was that epic
that we had to do it in two parts.
And we are so excited that we could come together,
and do this for Comic-Con
since we can't be there in person.
We're very bummed about that, but we're all
safely social distancing, hope you are as well.
And we're just excited that we could be here,
and that we could do this.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And we are also here to support a very important cause,
and for that I will turn it over to Michael Burnham herself,
star of our show, awesome human being, Sonequa Martin-Green.
Please tell us the extra-important reason
that we're here today.
Yes, well, that extra-important reason
is that we're here together today to support
an organization known as the NAACP Legal Defense
And Educational Fund.
It is America's premier legal organization
fighting for racial justice.
It is the country's first and foremost
civil and human rights law firm.
It was actually founded in 1940 by Thurgood Marshall,
who subsequently became the first African American
U.S. Supreme Court justice.
The LDF's mission is to achieve racial justice,
equality, and an inclusive society.
And it's been fighting tirelessly for nearly 80 years
in political participation, in education equity,
economic justice, and criminal justice reform.
So it's really, really an honor
to support this organization.
We stand by the truth that Black lives matter.
This moment and this movement will be forever remembered,
and change is now.
If you would like to get involved by supporting
the enduringly impactful NAACP Legal Defense
And Educational Fund, please go to
and donate today.
And now Olatunde will lead us in.
Thank you, Sonequa, appreciate it.
Introducing Michelle Yeoh.
-Doug Jones. -Hey everyone.
-Anson Mount. -Hello.
-Anthony Rapp. -Hello!
-Mary Wiseman. -Hello there.
-Wilson Cruz. -What's going on!
-Alan van Sprang. -Hi!
-Ethan Peck. -Hey, how you doing?
-Mary Chieffo. -Qapla'!
Our Discovery bridge crew, Emily Coutts.
-Oyin Oladejo. -Hello!
-Sara Mitich. -Hello!
Ronnie Rowe Jr.
Back to the remaining cast,
-Tig Notaro. -Here.
-Rebecca Romijn. -Hey hey!
-Jayne Brook! -Hi!
And one more time, Sonequa Martin-Green.
And unfortunately, Shazad Latif
who play Specialist Ash Tyler, is unable to join us,
so I'll be reading his lines today.
I'll also be reading the roles of Commander Nhan,
Yoman Colt, the nurse and the doctor,
and we have the wonderful Michelle Paradise
reading the roles of Council Member, Doctor Tracy Pollard,
Siranna, Po, Lieutenant Amin, Lieutenant Mann,
-Lieutenant Nicola, and K'Vort. -Wow!
-Wow! -So many lieutenants.
Yeah, you got a lot to do.
So, Episode 214, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2."
Interior Discovery bridge.
Red alert, whipping from Saru to the Con
to Oh at her console.
Battle stations, report.
Battery's armed and ready, sir.
And we whip off Obo, making an invisible transition to
interior Enterprise bridge.
Shields at maximum, Captain.
Transmit to all ships. This is Captain Pike.
We have one job: get Commander Burnham and Discovery
through the wormhole. Section 31 is in our way.
Interior Discovery. Lit corridors, steam billowing,
crew running every which way, Burnham and Spock take frame,
racing like mad toward Engineering. We track with them,
almost at full sprint.
Discovery will navigate
into the clearest possible position.
Exterior space. Pause that with Pike on the bridge.
As retro-fitted shuttles exit the bay,
we soar toward the side of Discovery
where retro-fitted pods launch from dozens of silo openings.
Second Squadron will match course and speed
to cover Burnham's launch and defend her perimeter.
Now we follow the pods to Enterprise,
where Starfleet fighter ships are simultaneously
launching from the shuttle bay.
Enterprise will maintain fire on the fleet
to distract them for as long as we can,
but as soon as Burnham is detected out there,
we have to keep her safe.
The Disco and Enterprise ships merge into one fleet.
Follow as they race alongside, and over
their respective ship hulls.
All shuttles and pods use attack formation Gamma Six.
First and third quadrants coordinate positions
to disrupt and target the main enemy vessels.
This is Starfleet. Get it done.
[Olatunde] The Starfleeters fan out,
forming separate ranks,
as Section 31 armada, at a distance,
closes in on all sides.
Interior Discovery bridge, intercut.
Mr. Saru, ETA on that suit.
The components are being synthesized
and assembled as we speak.
Interior Discovery Engineering. Chaos.
Don't adjust the composite automatically.
I'll do it manually before clearing each piece for assembly.
I'm not detecting any micro-variances.
No, I need a surgical spanner,
not a standard engineering coupler.
Stop, look me in the eye.
The silicon injectors have to be purged
after each binding is molded, watch me.
The bayonet joint on this oxygen sensor's wide open.
Are you trying to kill her?
It's muscular work, everyone drenched in sweat.
A crew member stumbles, drops a piece,
Burnham doesn't hesitate.
Get off the line.
Interior Enterprise. Interior Discovery. Bridges intercut.
High speed, low drag, Commander.
The longer it takes her to open the wormhole
-the fewer make it home. -Yes, sir!
What's the intel on how much perimeter space she'll need?
Commander Burnham needs to remain
at the outermost radius of the battle at .0004 arc-seconds.
In English, I can't blow a path
through what you're saying.
Tight enough so none of the Section 31 ships are pulled
into the future with her, loose enough so none of our guys
get destroyed by the event horizon.
Lieutenant Spock will remain on
Comms throughout to guide her.
Interior Discovery Engineering. Burnham, at assembly table,
snaps open a communicator.
Reno, where are you with the time crystal?
Interior Discovery Science lab.
Reno stands next to the crystal, tearing the cage off,
bracing herself against the console.
Her face contorted, a future only she can see.
Then she hears.
-Reno! -Which jolts Reno back
to the moment, and she presses on, pushing down
whatever it was that she saw.
Four minutes, 18 seconds until fully charged.
Can you cut that in half?
Can I violate the basic laws of physics?
-No! -Interior Discovery bridge.
Commander, we've scanned the Section 31 armada.
There's only one life sign, Captain Leland's.
The rest of the ships are empty.
Drones, nasty ones.
Lieutenant Bryce, have you had
any success reaching Starfleet?
Subspace relays are still down, Commander.
-Attempting to circumvent. -Very well, then.
It is just us.
Any, ahem, words of wisdom?
"Be extremely subtle,
even to the point of formlessness.
Be extremely mysterious,
even to the point of soundlessness."
"Thereby you can be the director
of the opponent's fate."
I'm surprised that a Kelpien, of all beings,
has studied Sun Tzu.
And I am surprised a Terran is surprised by anything.
[Olatunde] She looks at him with increased respect.
-Just then-- -Incoming hail. Leland, sir.
That sits, nervous faces, Saru says to buoy them:
You will see a human face. It is not a human being.
Am I clear?
-Yes, sir! -Put it through.
[Olatunde] On viewscreen, Leland appears.
Leland, we were just talking about you.
Everyone hates you, congratulations.
You know why I'm here.
Give me what I've come for, or die for it.
By authority granted me under
the Articles of the Federation and Starfleet Charter,
I order you to surrender your vessels.
No terms, no deals.
Last warning. Transmit the data, or you'll be destroyed.
By my count, we have over 200 vessels,
while you have, 30, is it?
-[Olatunde] A beat. -Count again.
Three large Section 31 ships release
a massive fleet of smaller drones, peel away
from their parent host, hornets leaving their nest
headed for the Starfleet armada.
Interior Discovery bridge. Push in on Saru,
his eyes focused on the viewscreen.
This is so much worse than anyone was expecting.
Interior Enterprise bridge. Push in on Pike.
Eyes on viewscreen as well, and his voice almost a whisper.
[Olatunde] Wide, the incoming Section 31 armada approaching.
Off which, end teaser.
Act one, interior Discovery bridge.
Officers scramble, alarms scream.
Multiple torpedoes locked on us.
Evasive pattern Delta Five.
[Olatunde] Flip to interior Enterprise bridge.
All power to forward shields, fire full spread.
[Olatunde] Exterior space. It all happens at once.
Enterprise and Discovery launch torpedoes
as the Section 31 mothership fires projectiles
as the drones fire phasers at the Starfleet fighters.
Interior Enterprise bridge. Sparks rain from the ceiling.
-Damage report. -Breach in section two,
decks nine and 10. Seven confirmed dead.
Shields at 86%.
[Olatunde] Interior Discovery, bridge.
Shields at 82%.
We have a breach on deck 12, emergency bulkheads engaged.
Interior Discovery Engineering. Sparks and smoke.
The assembly line keeps scrambling
to piece together the suit.
Back plate complete.
He grabs the back plate from the fabricator
and rushes it to Burnham.
She and Stamets connect it to the suit's empty back port,
where the crystal will go.
Reno, we need that crystal now.
[Olatunde] Interior Discovery, science lab.
As the crystal glows brighter:
-One minute away. -Charge at 98%.
Interior Enterprise, bridge. Viewscreen. Hundreds of drones
engage the Starfleet fighters.
All Squadrons on those drones immediately.
Captain Pike, it's Po, do you copy?
[Olatunde] Po? Pike does a double take.
-Shoots a look to Number One. -Pull her up.
She's flying directly under them, like a remora.
Number One's fingers flying, enhancing Po's shuttle
on the viewscreen.
Give me her shuttle feed.
The view screen bifurcates.
Your Highness, who told you you could fly
-a Federation vessel? -First, I invoke
diplomatic immunity for stealing this shuttle.
Interior Po's shuttle, intercom.
Get out of there.
Captain, listen, your Squadron's gonna get obliterated.
I thought these drones looked off-key.
They have a refracted lattice shield design.
You can see it in the wave patterns.
They can't be defeated one-on-one.
Attack has to be two at a time,
targeting fore and aft emitters simultaneously.
[Anson] Po, are you certain?
[Michelle] I'll put my life on it.
A micro beat, then:
All Squadrons formation Double Alpha.
Team up and begin target acquisition.
Follow the queen.
Off Po's determination, end intercut.
Pike and Number One exchange a look--stranger things
have happened--as...Interior Discovery, bridge.
The ship is hit. Tilly, Saru, Georgiou and the crew jolted,
but they quickly get back to work as...
Mr. Rhys, set all phasers for automatic targeting,
-maximum power and range. -Aye, Commander.
[Doug] Owo, bring the emergency generators online.
Shields holding at 70%.
Leland won't destroy this ship immediately.
He'll cripple us and take the data.
Then he'll break Discovery down for parts.
Do you have anything relevant to offer?
Invite him aboard.
[Olatunde] Saru reads Georgiou.
Whatever you have in mind, this is not
a two-pronged mission.
The first priority is to get Discovery to safety
with Commander Burnham.
For you, perhaps.
You know me well enough by now to know
I leave very little to chance.
Especially when it comes to revenge.
[Olatunde] That lands on Saru as Reno bursts out of
the science lab.
Crystal's fully charged.
Ensign Tilly, go with her and make sure
it gets to Commander Burnham safely.
He means in case one of us gets dead along the way.
-[Doug] Hurry! -I'm going, I'm going.
Get off my ass.
Sir, get off my ass, sir.
[Olatunde] As they get into the turbolift...
You saw something from the crystal, didn't you?
-Was it bad? -Was I heroic?
-Did I die? -Did you die?
Like I said, rinse and repeat.
Interior Enterprise bridge, viewscreen.
The battle rages. Suddenly, all the drones stop.
Pike leans forward,
realizing the threat.
They're gonna make a run at weakening Discovery's shields.
And indeed the entire fleet of drones
heads for Discovery, kamikaze-style.
Bring us around, divert all power
to starboard deflector shields
and place us between the drones and Discovery.
Exterior space. Like a swarm, the drones
fly into Discovery shields, exploding on impact,
row after row.
The second line taking point after the first,
and so on, and so on.
Enterprise slots in front of Discovery to take some blows,
but the drones swarm around it and keep attacking Discovery.
Interior Discovery. Bridge. Another hit.
Another. On Owo's console, shields rapidly dropping.
Shields down to 54% and dropping fast.
[Olatunde] Interior Enterprise. Bridge.
Lieutenant Mann, target the largest 31 vessel,
and fire on their shield generators.
The entire fleet's receiving signals
from Leland inside that ship.
Interior Discovery corridor. Tilly and Reno,
with AI glove and time crystal, race to catch up
with Burnham, Spock, Stamets, Nhan, Nilsson
and the engineers.
Quickly building the suit on the makeshift table.
I need that last panel.
Spock hands him the panel just as the ship is hit.
rocks the corridor, opening a hole
in one wall, sending people flying
into the opposite wall, to the floor.
Everyone scrambles to their feet.
Several engineers wounded, two engineers dead,
the time crystal against the wall.
-Michael? -Good. You?
-Reno? -I'm a cat,
at least five lives left.
She gets to her feet as Stamets, back to us,
grabs the final panel.
Stumbles to the makeshift table, slams it into place.
-We're good. -He staggers,
turns to reveal a massive piece of metal
sticking out of his chest.
He falls to a knee, bleeding out.
Reno quickly hands the AI glove to Burnham as...
-Take this. -She goes to Stamets,
who's about to collapse, helps him up.
No way you're pulling this dramatic bullshit, Stamets.
Get him to sickbay, I'll clean up the mess,
before anyone gets impaled.
-Michael! -Let's go!
He grabs the crystal. She grabs the worktable.
Hurriedly wheels to the opposite direction.
Spock follows, crystal, AI glove in hand
as we whip away from them to...
Interior Enterprise. Bridge.
Cornwell, blood running from a gash in her arm.
-Shields? -[Rebecca] Under 60%,
Discovery is at 38. Neither ship will last much longer
at this rate.
We're not on our heels yet. Keep offensive focus.
Make them follow us.
Interior Discovery. Sickbay. Bio beds full,
the wounded spilling out into the hallway.
Doctors and nurses run triage.
Class four casualties here,
class three in the corridor.
Cortical stimulation's failing!
Any free hands to help us down here?
Hey, I need that bio-bed.
I am sorry, Doctor.
All personnel on board are occupied, do your best.
No, I'm gonna do a half-assed job,
because now's the perfect time.
Interior Discovery at shuttle bay.
The suit is complete.
[Olatunde] Whip around to find Spock and Burnham
at the Red Angel suit, now standing on its own, majestic.
Are you ready?
[Olatunde] Burnham stares, a moment of hesitation.
It's your mother, and it's you.
Trust what you've done together.
[Olatunde] She stretches out her arms
to receive the suit as Spock slams the time crystal
in its slot, and the suit instantly responds,
forming itself around her.
Burnham looks down at herself in the suit.
Can't help but belt a little chuckle.
You will be
the target out there, Michael.
I'll pilot a shuttle to make sure
you reach the perimeter point.
What are you talking about?
You're supposed to guide me by Comms.
You can't protect me in that.
[Olatunde] The ship shakes again.
There's no time for debate.
I will return to Discovery as soon as you open the wormhole.
[Olatunde] Beat. They just look at each other.
Michael doesn't move.
-I said-- -I heard you. You better.
[Olatunde] Spock raises his hand in a Vulcan Salute.
A beat. She presses her hand to his, together.
Another shake breaks the moment.
Spock races to the shuttle.
Stay in my wake.
[Olatunde] Burnham nods, touches the side of her helmet,
the face plate closes. Inside the suit,
she takes a deep breath, looks out at the raging battle
through the shuttle bay opening.
Interior Spock shuttle. Shuttle bay. Continuous.
Spock at the console, firing it up as...
Discovery bridge, this is Lieutenant Spock.
Prepare to lower shuttle bay force field
and drop aft shields for 3.5 seconds on my mark.
[Olatunde] Interior Discovery. Bridge.
Captain Pike, we're preparing to lower aft shields.
Cover fire would be most appreciated.
[Olatunde] Interior Enterprise bridge, sparks explode
from a corner console as...
We've got you, Saru.
All vessels. We've calculated Commander Burnham
will need two minutes and 47 seconds to reach safe distance
and open the wormhole.
Interior Po's shuttle. Continuous on Po
blasting at the drones as...
All Squadrons, form a tactical escort around her,
on her path and screen enemy fire.
I want her in a cocoon
until she reaches her destination.
On it, Captain. If she doesn't make it, neither do we.
Interior Discovery. Bridge. Continuous. Nhan races back
onto the bridge and assumes Tilly's station.
Lower shields in five.
Interior Discovery. Shuttle bay, same time.
Spock shuttle thrusters power up.
He flies his shuttle over the top of Burnham.
[Doug] Four, three, two, mark.
[Olatunde] The shield lowers as Burnham starts running
and Spock's shuttle soars toward the opening,
and as his shuttle flies up, she jumps, and...
Exterior space. The Red Angel, Burnham, takes flight.
Spock keeps pace ahead of her, and we soar with her
through the insane battle, more drones forming
in from all sides of the Federation fighters
form a rotating protective cocoon to keep her safe.
Many of our ships get blasted and drop away,
but other fighters slot right in to keep
the perimeter tight.
Exterior space. With Burnham and Spock.
They zip through the battle, protected by the fighters
as the drones keep attacking.
[Computer] Interstellar debris density 72% above nominal.
Scanning for nominal local coordinates.
[Olatunde] A blast goes right past her,
sending her spinning out of control.
-[Ethan] Michael! -[Olatunde] Spinning, spinning,
but she rights herself.
[Sonequa] I'm okay, I got this.
[Olatunde] She continues moving forward,
moving through the debris as Spock fires back
keeping that path open.
Interior Enterprise. Bridge. Pike, intense.
All battle groups form a shield wall against those ships.
Keep your protective formations tight.
Discovery and Enterprise will take lead.
Nobody gets past us until Burnham reaches her target.
[Olatunde] Exterior space, our fighters assemble formation
into a moving wall as Enterprise and Discovery
circle around to form the front line.
Everyone firing in literally thousands of directions
to keep the Section 31 ships at bay as...
Interior Discovery. Bridge.
Commander Saru, sensors are showing
something beamed aboard while our shields were down.
[Olatunde] Before anyone can process,
the turbolift doors open.
It's Leland, rifle in hand, the bridge
in exactly the same configuration
as Burnham's premonition.
Leland starts firing, blasting consoles.
The crew dives, recover, as Nhan
and the two trigger officers fire back.
Leland hits one of the officers, who falls dead
as he keeps firing, Nhan returning fire.
Nhan keeps firing but Leland bolts,
makes a beeline for the science lab.
-Everyone stay here. -Like hell.
Interior Enterprise. Bridge.
The ship rocks. Pike, Cornwell, and the crew work it as...
Sir, sensors show Captain Leland beamed aboard Discovery.
[Olatunde] Pike snaps to his feet.
He and Cornwell share a look.
We'd have to lower our own shields
to beam a team over.
Discovery would have to lower theirs.
[Olatunde] He looks at the viewscreen,
Discovery taking a beating as Enterprise is hit again.
We can't do it, Chris.
Interior Discovery. Bridge. Saru, the crew
scramble back to their stations as Nhan tries
to Leland's door.
I'll override the security codes.
Try accessing the lock mechanism directly.
Nhan pops open a second panel, starts working.
How much longer before you gain entrance?
Five minutes. Less, if you stop bothering us.
Saru pauses, can't help but smile, then...
Commander, shields are at 38%.
Hold the line, Lieutenant.
After we're done breaking and entering,
would you like to help me make Leland scream?
Exterior space. The outer edge of the battle.
[Ethan] We are at a safe distance Michael.
[Sonequa] Stand by.
Spock's shuttle lands on a massive piece of debris
from a destroyed starship.
Burnham, following right behind him, does the same.
Exterior space on a piece of starship debris.
Burnham catches her breath, Spock in his shuttle, focused.
Burnham quickly presses her wrist controller.
A large holographic nav screen appears in front of her.
Burnham, moving her hands across it, pressing buttons,
but her face darkens with confusion.
[Sonequa] It's not working.
The navigation system's stuck on the present,
it won't move forward.
Exterior space. Closer to the battle.
The Section 31 mothership launches
the photon torpedo at Enterprise.
We follow it as it impacts, but lodges
in a hole near the bridge, half in the ship, half out,
exactly as in Burnham's premonition.
Interior Enterprise. Continuous.
The ships starts to list, everyone holding on.
Number One shouts against sparks and groaning metal.
Captain, an undetonated photon torpedo
has breached the hull.
If it blows, it'll rip a hole four decks wide
in the saucer section.
As that lands, exterior space,
on a piece of starship debris.
Burnham sees Enterprise listing and zooms in.
The HUD, HUD, POV.
The undetonated torpedo lodged in the hull.
Everything I saw, this is how it starts.
Off ridge, end of act one.
And now I will be handing things off
to EP and co-showrunner, Michelle Paradise,
who will be moderating our cast Q&A today.
Thanks, thanks, Tunde.
So these are questions that have been submitted
for all of you.
This one's actually for me, but I'm curious
how any of you might respond.
How important is it to you to continue the tradition
of Star Trek taking a social and political stance
as you enter Season 3.
[Michelle Yeoh] I love!
[Anthony] It's everything.
[Yeoh] We're so, like, eager.
[Anthony] Yeah, I mean, I think it's everything.
I mean, Star Trek, of course, is fiction,
it's science fiction, but it's always meant to imagine
a future and a world in which people are valued
for who they are, the content of their character,
not the color of their skin, not their gender,
not their gender expression, not their age,
and you know, in this explosive time it seems
more resonant now than ever that we help shine a light
on all of those issues.
And it's not always doing it like, it's not shining a light
like super vividly all the time, it's just part
of the fabric of it, and that by itself
is leading the way I think.
I think what I'm grateful for is the fact that Star Trek
has always been this
aspiration for our society,
for our country, that it has always set a goal,
and that it's been our job to help not only imagine
that future, but to create it.
And so, I think going into Season 3
we have an opportunity to really have a conversation
about the world that we wanna create,
and how each of us has a responsibility
to create it together.
So I'm grateful for the history that Star Trek
has created in terms of giving us something
to aspire to, and so I hope that we continue that
with Season 3.
-[Mary] Something I've-- -[Yeoh] I think tradition--
[Yeoh] Oh, sorry, go ahead.
[Mary] I'm not gonna interrupt
-Michelle Yeoh, please go. -Oh, oh.
On that note, I shall lead.
I just want to say that tradition's just part of our DNA.
And we just have to continue to strive together
for what we believe in, for what is right.
We know what is right or wrong,
and we have to do it together.
Yes. And that's pretty much--continuing that. Just striving,
and something that I've been really been thinking about,
my gratitude for being a part of this franchise is that,
it's about the infinite combinations of diversity.
That our work is never done. That there's still
representation and visibility yet to be seen,
and so I'm really grateful to be a part of a franchise
that champions that, over and over again.
And the work isn't done, but it's pretty exciting.
I think that one thing I value about, specifically
our version of Star Trek is that we don't make assumptions
that we've already reached perfection,
that we allow that there's more to do within ourselves,
and within the Utopia of the Federation and beyond.
And I think that's a really important message
to hear right now because there are a lot of people
who assume some of these issues are resolved,
and they're not.
So I love that about our show, and I think
it's important, it taught me a lot about how to engage
-in my reality at this time. -Mm-hmm.
Thank you for that, Mary, I wanna piggy-back
and say that I think a story like this,
piggy-backing on what everyone has said,
a story like this that can give us an example
of what that future might look like.
I think it, at least I hope that it
really holds us accountable, and shows us,
as Mary was just saying that, as both Marys were saying
that the work is not done, and that it's about
confronting ourselves, and really confronting each other.
And we see that in the story within the legacy
of this franchise.
So that's really what's gonna propel us forward
is confronting ourselves truthfully,
and confronting each other, exposing ourselves
in a way like we haven't before.
So I hope that we contribute in our iteration,
I hope that we contribute moments to the movement
in that way.
Tunde, this question is for you.
-Oh. -Can you describe
a moment or a scene that was especially rewarding for you
as a director when you directed the finale?
Oh, boy that's a tough one
to pick from.
I would say the final scene of the episode.
I would say we know that Burnham has gone to the future,
and Spock walks out, and we walk out onto the bridge
of the Enterprise, and he's no longer got a beard.
And he walks up to the front, thinks about his sister,
and then goes to his station for the first time
since we've been seeing the Enterprise bridge.
For me that was just emotionally cathartic,
and brought the whole season down to that one moment.
And reinserted us back into the timeline
that we know and love from Star Trek.
[Paradise] That was pretty awesome.
And the sound.
-The sound. -And. [laughs]
-The thing. -Yes, the sound
of the thing. [Olatunde humming]
That was awesome.
-What is it that-- -And I kept Ethan's beard.
-Yeah. -[cast laughs]
I painted it a little bit, yeah.
I tried, it didn't work.
Sonequa, so this takes us into a question for you.
As Burnham leaps ahead into the future
at the end of Season 2, what would you say
is her hope, not just for Starfleet,
but for herself moving forward?
Oh my goodness.
Well, first, a salvation of sorts.
You know, we the crew of Star Trek: Discovery,
in the finale, are deciding to sacrifice everything,
everything that we have for the future.
And so there's the obvious hope that that works,
that the plan works, and even logistically
that we land where we're supposed to,
that we defeat Control, that we save the world,
and save the universe.
So there's the inherent hope of that,
and then I think there's also a hope
of continuing to discover myself as Burnham,
that will always be there, that hope
of unveiling, continual unveiling.
And finding that perfect sweet, sweet balance,
between all the forces that wage within me.
Maybe you'll explore that in Season 3.
We don't know.
Doug, this one's for you.
So in Season 2, take your brain back, Saru reunited
with Siranna and also helped to free his people,
and push them into becoming a warp-capable society.
How hard do you think it was for Saru
to leave them behind, and without giving away
any spoilers, do you think there's a future
for more Kelpians in the Federation.
Oh great, I think that's the hardest thing
Saru's ever had to do.
And he's now had to leave his homeworld
and his sister twice.
As we look back at the other shorts
that showed my background on how Saru joins Starfleet,
he had to make a decision
to leave his homeworld with the promise that he
would never return. That was the hardest decision
he ever had to make. Then we come back to Kamanar
in Season 2 to discover with this newfound information
that my people have been oppressed by the Bau'l
this entire time, and lying to us about our own evolution.
And that's when Saru faces off with Captain Pike
with his newfound fearlessness to say,
"No, I need to go back, I know I promised not to,
but this is my job to do."
So after liberating his people and feeling
great about the future that the Kelpiens can have now,
living in peace with the Bau'l,
there was a peaceful resolve, and now
they can absorb each other's cultures and technology.
Now he's made the decision to follow Burnham
through the wormhole with the crew, and go into the future,
and have to leave everything behind once again.
But in those final moments, he sees that his sister Siranna
is now piloting a fighter ship, and is like,
"I guess it worked.
I guess the Kelpiens
have joined the post-warp society."
And he feels good about that.
And I think, yes, with every hope, jumping ahead,
that Kelpiens will have a place at the table
in the Federation for sure.
Awesome, you mentioned jumping ahead into the future,
and him having to leave everything behind.
This leads us nicely into a question for Michelle.
So by the end of Season 2, Georgiou's been ripped away
from the world that she knows, not just once but twice.
-No, she keeps going- -Thank you!
-I know. -Mary.
She was the leader of the Mirror Universe, not anymore,
and now she's an agent for Section 31.
Nope, now you're going to the future.
At this point, where would you say Georgiou is,
going into Season 3?
Is she along for the ride?
Does she wanna seek power?
Where is she emotionally going into Season 3?
Into Season 3?
I think she's really pissed off.
It's like, Michael Burnham, don't get in my way.
No, I think she, but you know,
Emperor Georgiou, Captain Georgiou,
she is one
that always finds her way into adapting
because she is a survivor with many skills,
and a formidable ally or an enemy.
So she goes in there being very pissed off,
but then I'm sure very quickly she'll find a way around.
And power is something that's inherently--
that she has.
She doesn't even seek it.
She just has it.
-Mm, awesome. -Mm, scary, huh?
Watch out, girl.
[Paradise] I wonder what's going to happen.
Antony and Wilson, at the end of the Season 2 finale,
Stamets and Culber reunites as a couple.
Can you without giving any spoilers away, talk about
how they'll continue to heal and grow
their relationship moving forward.
To me, one of the great things about Season 3
is that it really blends the personal/family nature
of our show, and not just literal family,
like our coupledom, but also the family of the ship.
It really explores family in wonderful new ways.
So I think that's one of the cool things.
And I'm trying to find a way to say
without spoiling too much.
But that's one of the major things that gets developed
in Season 3 for sure.
I think what's great about Season 3 is that
because of the way Season 2 ends,
the fact that Culber has made a choice.
He's taken a risk without knowing what's gonna happen
he chooses to stay on the Discovery.
And because of that choice he gets to save his life,
Paul's life, and I think in that moment, he realizes
that everything he has ever wanted,
and everything that he needs is right here
between these two people.
Took him long enough.
You didn't necessarily
make it easy.
Don't get me started, we're gonna fight that fight again.
But my point is that, what was my point?
My point is that
because he made this choice, he knows that he's different,
he knows that he's looking at his work different,
he knows that he feels different
about his place in the world, and what his purpose is,
and so the relationship is different in that way, too.
It's more on an equal footing, I think.
And I'm excited about the new responsibility
that I take on in terms of my work and mental health,
and I love the new Culber.
He's more three-dimensional in my head.
Awesome, I'll tell the writers.
This next one,
Mary Wiseman, since the start of the series
Tilly's always had her eye on the Captain's chair.
With all that's happened with the Discovery crew
over the past two seasons, by the end of Season 2
is she still on that path?
I think so, I think there are some pretty big speed bumps
in Season 2 on that road, but I think
that's always her pie in the sky, is reaching
sort of the zenith of leadership within Starfleet.
And you can see more about that journey in Season 3,
but we're also really on the edge of the unknown,
so I think all of our ideas about what the future holds,
and who we are and who we want to be
are gonna be transformed.
Yeah, let's take it to Anson and Ethan and Rebecca.
Any of you, all of you, please dive in.
The Enterprise crew are the ones who are left behind
in the pre-TOS era. How do you think that working
with the Discovery crew has impacted, and will continue
to impact your characters as they continue exploring
strange new worlds.
See how we just got there? Strange, get it? Okay.
Someone wrote that for me.
Well, I'll start by saying that Spock's interaction
with Michael Burnham is essential
to transforming Spock from somebody
who's been born on Vulcan and is half human,
that has been taught to be Vulcan,
and I think Michael Burnham gives him the permission
to be human, and teaches him what it is to be human
so that is essential to the development of Spock.
As we follow along, the comp between
his emotion and logic going forward into
when we first see Leonard Nimoy in the original series,
that's a huge character point for me and will dictate
a lot of behavior for Spock
because of his interaction with Michael.
So I think that's most important for Spock.
-Anson or Rebecca? -Captain Pike?
Well, I think the biggest thing, obviously, was seeing
my future, and when you see how it's all gonna end,
and that it's not so pretty, what do you do with that?
I think there's a reason that we can only see our past,
'cause we're a very neurotic species, and we wouldn't know
how to comport ourselves.
And so I think ultimately the question comes,
how do you move forward, and then...
I think he's probably gonna wrestle with
how he can best utilize the rest of his life
for the good of the world, the universe.
And I think a lot of it is also surrendering
to the unknown, together, working as a team
to surrender to the unknown, I think.
And that's probably a very important point.
He's, he's not thinking about it
as a team yet because he's wrestling with it himself,
which I hope he's gonna learn to wrestle,
let other people help him wrestle with it.
Cool, awesome, so those were the questions
that were submitted to me.
Thank you everyone for joining. It was fun, it was great.
And by the way, if you noticed differences
between what you saw on screen and what you heard today,
that is the magic of editing. There you go.
If you would like to watch the full table read
of Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 finale
"Such Sweet Sorrow, Part Deux,"
then you can do that tomorrow at the below.
-Thank you. -Exciting!
-Thank you. -Bye!
Ah, what a great cast and what a great season finale.
Now as Soniqua mentioned, please be sure to catch
the full virtual table read of "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
tomorrow on CBS.com. You can also see it
on Star Trek social media platforms as well.
Up next, everyone is in for a very special treat,
as we enter a new level of the Star Trek universe,
with the upcoming animated comedy series,
Star Trek: Lower Decks.
So now please join me in welcoming Star Trek: Lower Decks
showrunner and Executive Producer, Mike McMahan.
Hey, welcome to the Star Trek: Lower Decks portion
of San Diego Comic-Con at Home.
I'm Mike McMahan, I'm the creator and EP
of Star Trek: Lower Decks, and I'm so proud
to be a part of this Star Trek family
with all the stuff that you guys are seeing.
You know, what you're about to see is people talking
about a show that takes place in 2380,
it's in the TNG era, it's right after the events
of Star Trek: Nemesis,
but it's way before the events of Star Trek: Picard.
You know, the TNG era is what I feel most comfortable in.
Today we're gonna be joined by the voice talent
of Lower Decks so that they can talk to you as well
about what it feels like to be in a Star Trek,
and to tell you a little bit about the show,
and to start off with we'll be showing you a clip
of a scene from the first episode.
It just gives you a little bit of a taste
of what the show feels and looks like.
We try to fit it into canon, so that it
doesn't break anything, but we tried to do
something new with it at the same time.
We try to keep it exciting, but we also try
to keep all of the ethical sci-fi sort of stuff
that makes Star Trek Star Trek without breaking it.
And I think we've come up with something
that a lot of people are gonna really enjoy.
So just to start off, let's watch this clip,
and then we will introduce the voice talent
to Star Trek: Lower Decks.
Captain's log, star date, 57436.2.
The Cerritos has docked at Douglas Station
for routine maintenance and resupply.
We will soon set course for the capital planet
on the Galor System, where we're scheduled
to make second contact with the Galordonian High Council.
First contact is a delicate, high-stakes operation
of diplomacy, one must be ready for anything
when humanity is interacting with an alien race
for the first time.
But we don't do that. Our specialty is second contact.
Still pretty important, we get all the paperwork signed,
make sure we're spelling the name of the planet right.
Get to know all the good places to eat.
-[door hissing] -[Beckett gasps]
[laughs] Oh my God, what are you doing?
Oh, nothing, nothing, nothing, I'm just.
Oh, no, oh, no, no, no, no, no!
Are you pretending to do a captain's log?
[shrieks] We're all supposed to keep logs.
Okay, let me listen to it.
-No, go away! -I can't believe
you're wasting your shore leave on this.
-Privacy please! -[shrieks] Time to go!
Come on get out
-of the closet. -Privacy! [grunts]
Let's go, come on!
-[gasps] Are you drunk? -Yeah, dude!
You should be too.
I mean the station is amazing,
and they have Romulan whiskey.
And I bet you thought it was gonna be green,
but it's actually blue, it's this very beautiful color.
Romulan whiskey is against regulation.
Yeah, 'cause it's awesome.
Oh, man, they've got all sorts of great stuff.
-Oh, oh. -[glass shattering]
Come on, check this out.
-[Beckett grunts] -[Brad shrieks]
-[swooshing] -Be careful with that.
Oh yeah, pretty sweet, right?
Yeah, it's a Klingon bat!
Um, bat, uh, bat.
I don't know I'm not a scientist.
It doesn't matter, shut up.
I got it from a old guy
-with a eye patch. -Hey, hey!
-Come spar with me. -No.
-Stop! -Come on!
-Hey, hey, stop! -Oh, we could be Klingons.
-We can have crimped hair, -No, hey, hey, hey stop.
It's got crusty blood on it.
War, war, war!
-I love honor, I demand honor. -No, hey, stop, stop.
[Beckett and Brad screaming]
Listen, I promise you people do not get chopped in the leg
by a bat'leth every episode, but it is always
a possibility when you're serving on a Starfleet ship.
All right, now, let's meet some of our voice talent
from Star Trek: Lower Decks.
Tawny Newsome, thank you so much for joining us.
Oh thank you, I can feel the virtual throngs of people,
crushing my body as I push through the crowd.
Hey Jack Quaid!
[Mike] Thanks for joining us.
Eugene Cordero glad we got to do this, this is cool.
Me too, me too.
[Mike] All right, so we have Noël Wells here.
I wish I could see you in person,
but we will be together again soon I'm sure.
I'm looking forward to it.
Jerry O'Connell, thank you for joining us
from what appears to be a beautiful verdant hill.
It's just, no, it's a green screen.
I'm actually in my basement.
Oh, that's pretty, yeah, so am I.
Thank you so much
for having me, Mike.
[Mike] Gillian Vigman, thank you for joining us.
Oh, it is my pleasure to be here, Mike.
So there are all kinds of officers in Starfleet.
There's engineers, there's scientists,
and there's all sorts of different commanders,
and then even in those ranks, you never know
what you're gonna get.
What kind of Starfleet officer is your character?
I have joked before that she's not very different from me,
and that is a testament to you, Mike,
for liking my personality, I guess,
and just kind of writing it into a cool Starfleet officer.
But yeah, she's a little...
I don't know, she doesn't always play by the rules,
even though she could, 'cause she's good at things.
It's kind of like, you know, when you're the class clown
because you are ahead of the lesson in school,
type of a thing.
A lot about Star Trek is about the humanity
in the characters that are on the ship.
Like they can be spouting all this technological stuff,
but you wanna care about the characters,
and you really make that character fun.
Thanks man, it's team effort.
Yeah, Ensign Brad Boimler
is the ultimate Starfleet nerd.
He's like a complete fanboy for all the captains
and the first officers, basically anyone
who works on the bridge, and he wants to be like them
so bad that he is obsessed with rank and ranking up.
And he figures the best way to do that is to go
as by the book as possible.
So he follows every Starfleet rule to a T.
He has no demerits at all.
He logs even when he's really not supposed to,
because he's an ensign.
-But he means-- -He means well.
So well, and honestly it's just like a guy
talking to his friends they're giving him a lot of guff.
I like that Tawny calls you Boimler,
or she calls you Boims on Twitter, it's so cute.
Ensign Tendi is like the fresh eyes on the Cerritos.
She's excited by everything, she's unflappable,
even if there's weird things happening
she somehow turns it into this optimistic point of view.
So she's just very excited.
Ensign Rutherford is the cyborg, but I mean,
I guess he loves the fact that he is half mechanics,
'cause he loves the mechanics.
He's an engineer guy, he's all about the tech talk.
He's the guy you want on your trivia team
talking about every single ship that has ever been
in the galaxy or beyond, yeah.
So Doctor T'Ana, who is, I would say she's
the head medical officer on the Cerritos,
and because of that she has an extreme responsibility
to take care of basically everybody on board.
Doctor T'Ana, she might be great
at solving space medical mysteries, but she's also
a scary, crusty ally cat, which is why we love her.
Doctor T'Ana may have the roughest bedside manner,
but she loves to dig in and get to the problem. [hisses]
Lieutenant Shaxs: what kind of Starfleet officer is he?
Well he is a definite shoot first ask questions later.
He is no nonsense, he is a Bajoran that's got a chip
on his shoulder as he should.
He's hardcore, but in some ways terrible for security,
because he's just like, "Oh, someone's hailing? Fire!
I suggest we hail fire on them."
You know, and it's like,
at the same time he kicks ass and he gets the job done.
My character Ransom as a Number One
has a pretty short fuse.
I don't think he's the easiest person to work for,
but he does deeply care about Starfleet.
He just does and says things that I'm not sure
we could get away with on other Star Trek franchises.
Since we're the first comedy Star Trek we figured like
we're not on the most important ship in the fleet,
so why not have them really be people?
'Cause Star Trek is always
-about people -Whoa-whoa-whoa
-Whoa-whoa-whoa! Easy. -who are out there.
The Cerritos is super important to Starfleet, come on now.
-Everybody knows that. -All right.
[Mike] All right, I'm sorry, I know.
And you know it's funny, as the captain,
I never feel confident, and I never feel in command,
I always feel like I'm talking for talk-sake,
and people are just gonna do whatever
they're gonna do anyway, but I take myself
very, very seriously.
Captain Freeman is vital, she's important,
and she is in control, and in charge.
And the Cerritos in our mission to do second contact,
which is almost more important than first contact.
Because first contact, no one knows you're there.
Second contact we make sure things are running smoothly,
things are running right, and Captain Freeman,
she's in charge, and she's gonna make sure everybody knows
that she's in charge.
-Well listen-- -Okay!
All right, all right, I shouldn't have made it sound
like you guys weren't the most important.
You know, the unsung heroes are still heroes.
-Thank you. -So fans of Star Trek
have always dreamed about serving on a Starfleet ship,
and now you kind of have done that through your character.
What would you say is one of the most fun things
about serving on a Starfleet ship?
I think I would be a bit more of a nerd
even than Mariner, I think I'd be really focused
on ascending rank, 'cause I just would wanna get
to that sweet, sweet bridge.
I don't need to be the captain, but I just wanna be,
you know, I just wanna be someone on the bridge,
who's in charge of something like medium important,
'cause I want like enough responsibility
so that I can have an ego, but not enough to where
if something crashes or burns or people die
it's my fault.
I'd say maybe the most fun thing would probably be
the holodeck, and I know we got a lot of cool mileage
out of that during our season.
Well we did, but people don't know yet.
-But I guess this is a, -Oh!
this is a Jack Quaid
-as promised fans -Oh!
you'll be seeing some stuff happen on the holodeck.
It's fine, where else would we tell them?
The leaks are real!
[Mike and Jack laughing]
[Mike] But now they know we turned it on,
-huge drops for Comic-Con. -It's crazy!
-And it works, what?! -Well, most of the time.
Hey, so was there a moment in Season 1 that you loved,
that you think you can tell the San Diego at Home,
My favorite thing that Rutherford does is when the [beep]
and all of that, and it was just going and [beep]
couldn't get it quite right [beep] for what was happening.
Mariner, who is always such a screw-up,
always trying to undermine me and trying to see
what she can get away with, I am constantly,
as Captain Freeman, trying to come up with ways
to get her back in line, and I realized
the most fun episode for me was that episode
where I came up with this plan. You know what?
Instead of continuing to cut her off at the knees,
promote her, that's the last thing she wants to do is work.
There are many and I don't want to blow too much of it,
but I just love how he just comes in at full force,
no matter what, "You're too loud! Captain says
you're too loud! Breaking instruments."
Stop me if I'm giving away too much about this episode,
but there's an episode where we meet Boimler's girlfriend,
and that was maybe my favorite episode to record,
because this guy, in any kind of romantic scenario
is just hilarious to me.
But this is really a whole cast, this is an all skate.
I love episode eight [beep] so much.
It is maybe, I don't wanna pick favorites,
but it really grabbed all the things that I love
about Trek, and then all the absurdity
that you've injected into this world with [beep]
happens at the end.
This is the greatest thing I could be a part of.
One you guys let me be crusty, curmudgeony, bitter,
and yet like filled with sort of this excitement
and curiosity for learning.
My favorite part of the first season, I would say,
is when Ransom gets into a pretty vicious fight
It's pretty gory, it's not for the faint of heart.
You have a very unique situation in your household,
because the last time I checked usually there's not
two Number Ones, second-in-commands, under one roof.
So I play Ransom, the Number One in Lower Decks.
My wife is the Number One on the recently announced
Strange New Worlds.
So my wife is a Number One.
We're also very, very good friends with Jonathan Frakes
-who's also a Number One. -[Mike] Oh!
So man, when the three of us get together, I just,
I mean, I really should live stream it for everybody.
What would be your pitch for people
who maybe aren't Trekkies?
Do you think that people who aren't Trekkies
are gonna like Lower Decks?
Yeah, I think that what's so great about the show,
obviously it's gonna be exciting for people
that are Trekkies, but the show is
a totally different perspective, and has this comedic bent
that we haven't seen before.
So if you are into animation, if you like dark,
comedic comedies, there's plenty for everybody. [chuckles]
I think you're right.
I think that people who like Trek, will find a lot to love
in this, and people who've never seen Star Trek
it might be the first thing that makes them go,
"Wait, maybe I like Star Trek."
All right, and that's it.
Thank you everybody for joining us.
And letting us talk to you about Star Trek: Lower Decks.
We can't wait for you to see the season,
which again, premieres on CBS All Access on August 6.
And just personally, I know this is tough times,
and I know that we're all looking for a way
kinda get through it, and I know that we can.
Just hang in there, take care of each other,
and watch as many cartoons as possible.
Thank you everybody.
Live long and prosper!
And now I want you to get in that car, and I wanna see you
-do a flip right over that. -Cool.
-[laughs] Watch this! -Oh God Jerry, no!
Well look, I'm a big Star Trek fan, and I gotta tell you
I am definitely excited to see Lower Decks soon.
Now last, for me surely not least, we round out this year's
Star Trek Universe panel with the cast
of Star Trek: Picard.
So please join me as I moderate a portion of this panel
as we catch up with Sir Patrick Stewart,
and the rest of the Picard crew.
Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us
for this Comic-Con at Home panel,
the entire Star Trek franchise, but it is
my supreme pleasure to welcome the Star Trek: Picard cast.
-Eek! -If you don't mind,
please, you're digital applause, Alison Pill,
-Isa Briones -Yeah.
-[hands clapping] -Evan Evagora.
Michelle Hurd, Santiago Cabrera, Brent Spiner,
Jonathan Del Arco, Jonathan Frakes, Jeri Ryan,
Marina Sirtis, and Jean-Luc Picard himself,
Sir Patrick Stewart.
-Thank you so-- -Yeah.
So this is obviously a bit of a reunion for most of us
as we did this last year at Comic-Con in person in Hall H.
Guys, since then the show has debuted.
It has been a massive success.
Obviously, you're gonna be back for a Season 2.
Sir Patrick, I wanted to ask you before we started
how has it felt bringing the show back to people
and what's been the kind of response you've had
from the fans?
Well, we haven't brought it back.
It actually never went away.
And it was at first very challenging because
thanks to our brilliant team of writers we are living
in a very different world, very complex world,
profoundly troubled world, which might just be appropriate
for the times that we're living in as well.
For me, however, it was a case of, "I'm sorry,
what's your name, you are who, and you're playing what?"
Because we had a brand new team.
So, for me, a lot of the first half of the first season
was literally about getting to know the people
-that I was working with. -Learning their names,
I think you mean to say Patrick.
-[Patrick laughs] -It took you the first half
of the season to learn their names.
Well, I learned their first names, I still don't know
-most of their second names -Their second names,
I know, but we allow for that, 'cause you're very old.
-[everyone laughing] -Not yet, but about to be.
Alison, I wanted to ask you, this seems a very different
sort of show from what we've seen you do before.
What attracted you to doing Picard?
[sighs] I guess SPS over there was somewhat of a draw.
Ugh, don't let him know I said that.
[everyone laughing] That's you Patrick, you're SPS.
Ah, oh, thank you, Alison.
The first "S"
is your knighthood, dude.
-Oh! -Listen the other reason
is Michael Chabon too, who's been one
of my favorite novelists, and having a showrunner
coming from, who both appreciates the,
you know the whole idea of both appreciating
Star Trek and trying to take it into a new direction.
You know, it's streaming, we get to use the F word.
[chuckles] That combination was very exciting to me
of sort of amplifying the things that worked,
and taking it into new directions at the same time.
I wanna give a special shout out to Evan who's joining us
-from Australia today. -Yeah!
In the middle of the night.
for doing double duty, and to that, Isa and Evan:
this was really your first US major television role,
what was some of the things that you found as challenges,
and what were some of the surprises that you both had
working on Picard?
I think meeting everyone, initially I was terrified.
I think, Patrick, I don't even know if you remember
after us meeting, but you introduced yourself
and I just said, "good thanks."
-[cast laughing] -You just said,
"Hi, I'm Patrick."
I'm like, "Yeah, good thanks."
-[everyone laughing] -It was so embarrassing.
It took me, I think, a day
to get over that entire embarrassment.
But then the cast and everyone, Jonathan directed
my first episode, they just made everything so easy
and comfortable, it's never been really like hard
or difficult it's just been fun since the beginning.
And I reckon Isa
-feels the same way. -[Dominic] Isa for you,
you obviously played multiple roles in this season.
What was that like for you in terms of finding your place
as an actor, working against some of these actors.
-Working against sounds so, -[everyone laughing]
-I'm gonna square up. -I have to say,
but the vibe here is confrontational.
Yeah, the way that it unraveled was very gradual.
So it didn't feel like a total shock to the system,
because as I was auditioning, I didn't realize
I was auditioning for multiple characters,
and then eventually found out that they were twins.
And then one of them is gone, pretty quickly,
so I was like, all right well, this is your usual
playing your one role, but then Sutra came in later,
and I think the fact that I had so much of the beginning
filming process to just lock in Soji and who she was,
was amazing, because then Sutra came later,
and I already knew who Soji was.
-So I got to take Sutra-- -It was just the gold paint
and the switching back and forth,
and they're like...
Doing off camera for yourself.
-and oh my lord. -That was yeah!
Very impressive though.
-You did that like a pro. -I guess I was
loosing my mind a bit, looked a little crazy,
just turning my head and talking to myself.
-But it was definitely -It was
And coming from theater as well, I think I thought...
I think I thought it was gonna be
more different then it was.
your character, Raffi, really gives us
a real sense of the time that has passed
between the last time you saw Jean-Luc,
I guess, in 2002's Nemisis movie and now 20 years.
And it gives a story of what has happened in those 20 years.
For you and Patrick, how did you work as actors
in finding those characters and creating that back story
within a backstory so to speak?
That's a testament to the script that's right there
and my amazing scene partner.
I, like the rest of us, first meeting SPS,
I have a terrible feeling #SPS is going to be all over
Comic-Con at Home.
Just stop it all you guys, he's gonna be unbearable.
-Stop it! -But all this to say
that all the people out there who think of Patrick Stewart
in this sort of iconic world which we all place him in,
the truth is he is one of the most generous, human,
-I had the honor to work with. -Stop it!
-And it was just like-- -You know how long
-it took us to train him? -[Dominic] Marina's not having this.
[Marina] You lot, you Picard lot,
it took us years to train him.
Santiago, you're the space cowboy my man,
and it's a very different role in the sense of
how your character plays a foil to Jean-Luc.
What was that like for you?
Can you repeat the question, please?
-[Dominic] Yes I can. -[cast laughing]
Your character is really the space cowboy of Season 1,
and you come on and you,
-you're such a spoil. -I think I lost you
at "space cowboy", that's why I--
You're like, "clearly that's not me.
-Who's he talking to?" -I think I lost it there.
-I thought, yeah. -[Dominic] He's such a foil
to Jean-Luc's rigid and strict and by the book way
of doing things, for the most part.
What was that like for you in bringing that character
to the series and the development between the two
as it went through, 'cause clearly we're gonna see more
-in Season 2. -Well, I think
it was like discovering as you go along as well.
And that's sort of how different they were.
You start to realize the similarities as well,
not just the background of being from Starfleet,
you know, and that kind of similar background.
But at the end of the day I think what was interesting
from Rios is that he sees him for the man he is,
and kind of at the beginning he rejects him for being
the embodiment of Starfleet, but then
as the season goes along he starts to see the real man.
Jeri, Brent it seems pretty clear we're gonna see
some more of you guys.
It was a huge reaction last year
when you guys stepped on stage at Comic-Con.
What kind of reaction have you received from fans
since you actually appeared on Picard?
It's been amazing, and the fan reaction
has been kind of been overwhelming, and it's pretty cool.
I mean it's fun to bring back these characters
they played so long ago, and I could not be more thrilled
with the way they've developed her.
Brent, obviously you appear
as not only Data, but in a whole new role.
What was that like for you?
I'm sorry I lost you at space cowboy.
-[everyone laughing] -But playing another character
aside from Data, is that what we were talking about?
Yeah, well it was terrific.
It was part of what really encouraged me
to do the show.
I mean, I had sort of put Data to sleep, or blew him up,
or something, and didn't really expect
to ever be doing that again.
And then I met with Alex and Akiva, and Michael
and they, well, they wept, they actually cried
-[everyone laughing] -begging me to come do it.
-And... -Like was that
real tears or was that android tears?
-Well, I think it was real. -Real!
-Those were real tears. -But then I spoke to Patrick
about it and he wept.
-[everyone laughing] -So I thought, well,
of course I must to do this.
Marina and Jonathan, you're back, there's pizza,
there's a happy life, what was that like being back on set--
Johnny did you think that we'd ever be back in space.
I didn't, I didn't think I'll be back in space?
I was just happy, to be honest, that I didn't have to wear
-the space suit. -Ah!
-So...[chuckles] -It's very practical.
Because it was like I wouldn't fit in it anymore,
so that would be an issue.
But it was lovely, it was really lovely.
Johnny over to you.
Ha! I had just directed SPS.
I can't believe we're calling you that now. [laughs]
I know, I mean honestly, everybody who's watching this
#SPS has to be trending.
Which is amazing
that we've come up
with something new.
Thank you Picard cast for coming up with something new
-after 30 years, God bless. -No, I think, I knew
that Patrick was at the top of his game.
And I loved working with him, and then Marina
had just closed in a play in the West End,
I knew that her acting muscles were very strong,
and I was a nervous wreck to come back
as Wild Bill Riker, space cowboy.
-[everyone laughing] -You don't get that title
this season, my friend.
Excuse me, excuse me, I was the space cowboy,
-Oh? -even though
you wouldn't say this.
I was Derango the, what was it, something stranger.
Yeah, in a cowboy with a hat and everything.
So sod you lot, I was the cowboy.
I think technically Steve Miller was the space cowboy
to be honest, but nonetheless, Mister Del Arco
you also of course, Jeri referenced it to the Borg,
and of course, Hugh very much was part of the Borg.
I think for a lot of people when the Borg became a part
of the first season of Picard it really just hit home
for them about how much these characters had meant to them.
What was the most surprising reaction you had
-for the return of Hugh? -It surprised me
that there was that much love for the character.
Even though I knew it organically, because I've been
at conventions for so many years.
I was honestly surprised at the amount of love I got.
And excitement, and how the fans really craved to know
how that adolescent character had evolved into a man.
And so that was surprising to me, it was very gratifying.
They only bring back people, the guest stars
that the people love.
-Aww! -'Cause there are
a whole slew of episodes that I couldn't name you
the guest star if my life depended on it.
-[people laughing] -But you were special.
-Thank you. -Yeah!
And when you came on the show it was
a really special episode and the fans loved you,
and of course, they're gonna bring you back
when there's a Borg story, because you're it.
-You and Jeri, right. -That's really great,
I appreciate that.
Sir Patrick, so many people were surprised
that you came back to play Picard.
I know that you've talked about the reservations
you've had, now that the first season is completed,
and you guys are eventually gonna move into a second season
once the world gets a little more normal again,
what are your feelings now about having come back
-to the character? -I made the right decision
and it was entirely due to the people that I met
at my first couple of meetings,
who were a producer writing team.
I sat for more than two hours listening to them
talk about their plans and how they wanted
not just to revive Next Generation, but to illustrate
the years that have passed and that the world was changed,
and that's what excited me.
And then the daily excitement
was working with you guys,
and discovering this extraordinary range of talents
that had been assembled, because there is such diversity
in our ensemble that for probably the first five episodes
I was just awash with the satisfaction,
the deep profound satisfaction of working with you all.
But he was also not the same man.
He was disappointed, sad, guilty, angry,
possibly dangerous individual.
So that was what absorbed me.
As the season wore on I began to feel as I had begun to feel
with Next Generation that the character
was actually inside me anyway, and 20 years had passed
for Patrick, sorry, PCS, as much as it has, oh boy [laughs].
-SPS. -SPS, you dummy.
Don't even know
your own name.
God, you're ancient.
Could we have an agreement about this,
because I have just taken on board a name
that I was given about two years ago, very privately
by somebody in Second City in Chicago.
-They called me "P-Stew". -P-Stew?
-Yeah, we like P-Stew. -P-Stew.
That's the other name
for you, P-Stew is good.
P-Stew would be my choice.
-All right, P-Stew -Okay, P-Stew it is.
P-Stew it is.
We just have a few more minutes I'd like to have
some questions from fans.
And this is a particular question, this is very moving.
And this is from ChiefKalaN32,
this is for Brent and Patrick.
What was it like to have the closure we never had
for Data and Picard?
It was the first time art had ever had such an impact
-on me like that, I cried. -Aww.
My father and I watched the two characters
develop together, and I wish he could've seen it.
So I wanted to ask the two of you what that was like.
We had had closure of a sort in Nemesis.
This was a different kind of closure.
it's kind of a wonderful gift.
In both cases we've had some of the greatest writers
in the world write these two closures for us.
And I'm utterly grateful for that.
Working with someone I've known for 35 years,
and whom I love, and discussing aspects of living
that apply to both of us, Brent, I think we can say.
-Yes. -And most importantly
learning from Data that his desire to be human
had to include the knowledge and certainty
that life was terminal.
That it would end, and it is the fact that it will end
that makes living so important.
And living well, and properly, and appropriately,
and for society as much as for yourself.
-This is a question for Jeri -Here we go.
-and for Michelle. -Yes.
And this if from, I have to say,
someone who really lucked out when they got
their Twitter handle, it's from Starfleetboy.
-Wow. -Oh, wow.
What is the one thing that you wish could be brought
out of the Star Trek world, or universe I guess,
into the real world?
-Oh, my gosh. -Ah, acceptance.
-Inclusion. -Inclusion, yeah.
Literally what Patrick just said you know that
the understanding of how valuable life is.
Like can we all look out for our brothers and sisters?
Can we all just take the moment to understand
that our differences are actually our strengths?
-Exactly. -It's what makes us
a strong species,
-that we have -Exactly.
all these different thoughts, these different looks,
these different opinions, these different ways
of handling ourselves in the world,
of walking down the street.
I'm so thankful that I'm part of an organization
that gets it.
We always talk about Star Trek holding a mirror
up to society, perhaps society needs to look at us,
and start replicating what we're doing.
-Mm-hmm. -Because we're trying
-[hands clapping] -to tell the stories to heal.
Gene Roddenberry said, "In the 23rd Century
"there will be no sexism and no racism,
"and no hunger and no greed."
Let's make it happen.
Well let's hope that we can bring
-And that every child -to the 21st Century
-right now. -Will now how to read.
And that every child will know, well that's the key
isn't it? Education.
Thank you guys so much.
I can't think of a more perfect ending for this panel.
-Thank you. -Make it so.
-Bye, thanks for watching. -Bye, guys.
-Bye-bye P-Stew. -[lips smacking]
-Bye! -Thank you.
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Thank you so much, stay safe.
Well thank you so much Sir Patrick for joining us,
and thank you so much to the rest of the Picard cast
for joining us as well.
Now that concludes our virtual Star Trek Universe panel
at San Diego Comic-Con at Home.
And thank you for joining us.