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>>> GOOD EVENING. I’M CHRIS MATTHEWS IN

I’M CHRIS MATTHEWS IN WASHINGTON.

WASHINGTON. IT WAS A REMARKABLE SCENE THIS

IT WAS A REMARKABLE SCENE THIS AFTERNOON URGED BY THE

AFTERNOON URGED BY THE PRESIDENT, LABOR SECRETARY

PRESIDENT, LABOR SECRETARY ALEXANDER ACOSTA TOOK QUESTIONS

ALEXANDER ACOSTA TOOK QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS ABOUT HIS ROLE

FROM THE PRESS ABOUT HIS ROLE YEARS EARLIER IN LETTING JEFFREY

YEARS EARLIER IN LETTING JEFFREY EPSTEIN OFF WITH A LIGHT

EPSTEIN OFF WITH A LIGHT SENTENCE.

SENTENCE. IT WAS A REALITY TV EFFORT TO

IT WAS A REALITY TV EFFORT TO SALVAGE HIS JOB, AND LET’S

SALVAGE HIS JOB, AND LET’S WATCH.

WATCH. >> TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND

>> TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND COVERAGE OF THIS CASE HAS

COVERAGE OF THIS CASE HAS CERTAINLY CHANGED SINCE THAT

CERTAINLY CHANGED SINCE THAT ARTICLE.

ARTICLE. FACTS ARE IMPORTANT AND FACTS

FACTS ARE IMPORTANT AND FACTS ARE BEING OVERLOOKED.

ARE BEING OVERLOOKED. THE GOAL HERE WAS STRAIGHT

THE GOAL HERE WAS STRAIGHT FORWARD.

FORWARD. PUT EPSTEIN BEHIND BARS, INSURED

PUT EPSTEIN BEHIND BARS, INSURED HE REGISTERED AS A SEXUAL

HE REGISTERED AS A SEXUAL OFFENDER, PROVIDES VICTIMS WITH

OFFENDER, PROVIDES VICTIMS WITH THE MEANS TO SEEK RESTITUTION,

THE MEANS TO SEEK RESTITUTION, AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC BY

AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC BY PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE THAT A

PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE THAT A SEXUAL PREDATOR WAS IN THEIR

SEXUAL PREDATOR WAS IN THEIR MIDST.

MIDST. IT WAS COMPLICATED BY THE FACT

IT WAS COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT THIS MATTER STARTED AS A

THAT THIS MATTER STARTED AS A STATE INVESTIGATION.

STATE INVESTIGATION. A STATE GRAND JURY BROUGHT THAT

A STATE GRAND JURY BROUGHT THAT SINGLE COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE

SINGLE COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE CHARGE.

CHARGE. WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED

WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED APPROPRIATELY.

APPROPRIATELY. >> WELL, AS YOU HEARD THERE,

>> WELL, AS YOU HEARD THERE, SECRETARY ACOSTA BLAMED THE PALM

SECRETARY ACOSTA BLAMED THE PALM BEACH STATE ATTORNEY’S OFFICE

BEACH STATE ATTORNEY’S OFFICE FOR THE 2008 PLEA DEAL, BUT LATE

FOR THE 2008 PLEA DEAL, BUT LATE TONIGHT THE FORMER PALM BEACH

TONIGHT THE FORMER PALM BEACH STATE ATTORNEY HIMSELF SLAMMED

STATE ATTORNEY HIMSELF SLAMMED THE SECRETARY’S DEFENSE, WRITING

THE SECRETARY’S DEFENSE, WRITING IN A STATEMENT, "I CAN

IN A STATEMENT, "I CAN EMPHATICALLY STATE MR. ACOSTA’S

EMPHATICALLY STATE MR. ACOSTA’S RECOLLECTION OF THE MATTER IS

RECOLLECTION OF THE MATTER IS COMPLETELY WRONG.

COMPLETELY WRONG. IF MR. ACOSTA WAS TRULY

IF MR. ACOSTA WAS TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE’S CASE

CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE’S CASE AND FELT HE HAD TO RESCUE THE

AND FELT HE HAD TO RESCUE THE MATTER, HE WOULD HAVE MOVED

MATTER, HE WOULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH A 53-PAGE

FORWARD WITH A 53-PAGE INDICTMENT THAT HIS OWN OFFICE

INDICTMENT THAT HIS OWN OFFICE DRAFTED.

DRAFTED. INSTEAD, MR. ACOSTA BROKERED A

INSTEAD, MR. ACOSTA BROKERED A SECRET DEAL.

SECRET DEAL. MR. ACOSTA SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO

MR. ACOSTA SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REWRITE HISTORY.

REWRITE HISTORY. ACOSTA WAS CRITICAL OF THE

ACOSTA WAS CRITICAL OF THE LENIENT JAIL TERM, TELLING

LENIENT JAIL TERM, TELLING REPORTERS HE DESERVED A HARSHER

REPORTERS HE DESERVED A HARSHER PUNISHMENT.

PUNISHMENT. HE SEE RAID HE NEVER APPROVED

HE SEE RAID HE NEVER APPROVED LETTING EPSTEIN OUT OF JAIL TO

LETTING EPSTEIN OUT OF JAIL TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY.

GO TO WORK EVERY DAY. >> THEY DIDN’T HEAR BACK FROM

>> THEY DIDN’T HEAR BACK FROM YOU UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE.

YOU UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. DO YOU OWE THEM AN APOLOGY?

DO YOU OWE THEM AN APOLOGY? >> THE AGREEMENT THAT HAD BEEN

>> THE AGREEMENT THAT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED HAD AN UNUSUAL

NEGOTIATED HAD AN UNUSUAL PROVISION.

PROVISION. >> YOU HAVE NO REGRETS?

>> YOU HAVE NO REGRETS? >> WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED

>> WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED APPROPRIATELY.

APPROPRIATELY. >> WOULD YOU MAKE THE SAMT

>> WOULD YOU MAKE THE SAMT AGREEMENT TODAY?

AGREEMENT TODAY? >> TODAY’S WORLD TREATS VICTIMS

>> TODAY’S WORLD TREATS VICTIMS VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY.

VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY. >> BUT THESE VICTIMS SAY YOU

>> BUT THESE VICTIMS SAY YOU FAILED THEM.

FAILED THEM. >> WE DID WHAT WE DID BECAUSE WE

>> WE DID WHAT WE DID BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE EPSTEIN GO TO

WANTED TO SEE EPSTEIN GO TO JAIL.

JAIL. >> WHAT IS THE MESSAGE TO

>> WHAT IS THE MESSAGE TO VICTIMS WHO SAY THEY DON’T TRUST

VICTIMS WHO SAY THEY DON’T TRUST YOU ANYMORE?

YOU ANYMORE? >> THE MESSAGE IS YOU NEED TO

>> THE MESSAGE IS YOU NEED TO COMEACOSTA’S LATEST DEFENSE

COMEACOSTA’S LATEST DEFENSE AGAIN UNDERTAKEN AT THE URGING

AGAIN UNDERTAKEN AT THE URGING OF PRESIDENT TRUMP COMES AMID A

OF PRESIDENT TRUMP COMES AMID A GROWING CHORUS OF PEOPLE CALLING

GROWING CHORUS OF PEOPLE CALLING FOR HIS RESIGNATION.

FOR HIS RESIGNATION. THAT INCLUDES THE "MIAMI

THAT INCLUDES THE "MIAMI HERALD," WRITING TODAY IN AN

HERALD," WRITING TODAY IN AN EDITORIAL, "IF ACOSTA WHEN HE

EDITORIAL, "IF ACOSTA WHEN HE WAS U.S. ATTORNEY IN MIAMI HAD

WAS U.S. ATTORNEY IN MIAMI HAD SHOWN AN OUNCE OF SYMPATHY FOR

SHOWN AN OUNCE OF SYMPATHY FOR THE VULNERABLE GIRLS EPSTEIN

THE VULNERABLE GIRLS EPSTEIN SEXUALLY EXPLOITED, THEY WOULD

SEXUALLY EXPLOITED, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD A POWERFUL VOICE ON

HAVE HAD A POWERFUL VOICE ON THEIR SIDE.

THEIR SIDE. THEY DIDN’T.

THEY DIDN’T. NOT ONLY DID ACOSTA FAIL TO GET

NOT ONLY DID ACOSTA FAIL TO GET IT RIGHT IN 2008, HE DIDN’T CARE

IT RIGHT IN 2008, HE DIDN’T CARE TO.

TO. HE HAS TO GO."

HE HAS TO GO." SOURCES TELL NBC NEWS TONIGHT

SOURCES TELL NBC NEWS TONIGHT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE TO

THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE TO LABOR SECRETARY ALEX ACOSTA BY

LABOR SECRETARY ALEX ACOSTA BY PHONE TUESDAY AFTERNOON, THAT

PHONE TUESDAY AFTERNOON, THAT WAS YESTERDAY, AND URGED HIM TO

WAS YESTERDAY, AND URGED HIM TO HOLD THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY.

HOLD THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORT THE

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORT THE PRESIDENT MONITORED HIS

PRESIDENT MONITORED HIS PERFORMANCE TODAY CLOSELY.

PERFORMANCE TODAY CLOSELY. A FORMER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL

A FORMER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER TOLD

FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER TOLD POLITICO THAT ACCOSTOSTA AMOUNTE

POLITICO THAT ACCOSTOSTA AMOUNTE A KAVANAUGH 2.0 REBUTTAL.

A KAVANAUGH 2.0 REBUTTAL. HE WAS TALKING TO TRUMP TODAY IN

HE WAS TALKING TO TRUMP TODAY IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE.

THAT PRESS CONFERENCE. ACOSTA MADE A POINT OF

ACOSTA MADE A POINT OF ADDRESSING THE PRESIDENT

ADDRESSING THE PRESIDENT DIRECTLY HERE.

DIRECTLY HERE. >> MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

>> MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT IS OUTSTANDING.

PRESIDENT IS OUTSTANDING. HE HAS I THINK VERY PUBLICLY

HE HAS I THINK VERY PUBLICLY MADE CLEAR THAT I’VE GOT HIS

MADE CLEAR THAT I’VE GOT HIS SUPPORT.

SUPPORT. HE SPOKE YESTERDAY IN THE OVAL

HE SPOKE YESTERDAY IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

OFFICE. HE AND I HAVE SPOKEN.

HE AND I HAVE SPOKEN. I’M HERE.

I’M HERE. I’M DEFENDING THIS CASE.

I’M DEFENDING THIS CASE. THAT’S MY JOB.

THAT’S MY JOB. >> WELL, EARLIER TODAY, THE

>> WELL, EARLIER TODAY, THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE

HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE INVITED SECRETARY ACOSTA TO

INVITED SECRETARY ACOSTA TO TESTIFY TO A HEARING ON JULY

TESTIFY TO A HEARING ON JULY 23rd.

23rd. IN A LETTER TO THE SECRETARY,

IN A LETTER TO THE SECRETARY, CHAIRMAN LYME ELIJAH ANNOUNCED

CHAIRMAN LYME ELIJAH ANNOUNCED THE COMMITTEE WOULD EXAMINE

THE COMMITTEE WOULD EXAMINE ACOSTA’S ACTIONS AS WELL AS THE

ACOSTA’S ACTIONS AS WELL AS THE FINDING THAT HE VIOLATED THE

FINDING THAT HE VIOLATED THE CRIME VICTIMS’ ACT BY KEEPING

CRIME VICTIMS’ ACT BY KEEPING THE AGREEMENT HE MADE SECRET

THE AGREEMENT HE MADE SECRET FROM THE VICTIMS.

FROM THE VICTIMS. WE’RE JOINED BY KIMBERLY ATKINS

WE’RE JOINED BY KIMBERLY ATKINS FOR WBUR, PETER BAKER, CHIEF

FOR WBUR, PETER BAKER, CHIEF CORRESPONDENT FOR "THE NEW YORK

CORRESPONDENT FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES," BARRY BURGER, FORMER

TIMES," BARRY BURGER, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR IN THE

FEDERAL PROSECUTOR IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK.

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. I WANT TO GO TO BIRD ON THIS

I WANT TO GO TO BIRD ON THIS ONE.

ONE. A COUPLE OF THINGS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS. UNPACK THIS.

UNPACK THIS. THE SECRETARY OF LABOR SAID

THE SECRETARY OF LABOR SAID TODAY IT WASN’T HIS FAULT

TODAY IT WASN’T HIS FAULT BECAUSE IF HE HADN’T GOTTEN

BECAUSE IF HE HADN’T GOTTEN INVOLVED AS A FEDERAL

INVOLVED AS A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, THERE WOULDN’T HAVE

PROSECUTOR, THERE WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ANY JAIL TIME AT ALL

BEEN ANY JAIL TIME AT ALL BECAUSE THE STATE WASN’T GOING

BECAUSE THE STATE WASN’T GOING TO PUT HIM AWAY FOR ANY TIME.

TO PUT HIM AWAY FOR ANY TIME. AND SECONDLY, DON’T BLAME ME FOR

AND SECONDLY, DON’T BLAME ME FOR THIS CRAZY DEAL WHERE THE GUY

THIS CRAZY DEAL WHERE THE GUY CAN COME OUT EVERY DAY AND GO TO

CAN COME OUT EVERY DAY AND GO TO WORK SIX DAYS A WEEK WHEN HE WAS

WORK SIX DAYS A WEEK WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY IN JAIL THAT IS

SUPPOSEDLY IN JAIL THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS COOKED UP

SOMETHING THAT WAS COOKED UP AFTER THE DEAL AND IN VIOLATION

AFTER THE DEAL AND IN VIOLATION OF THE DEAL.

OF THE DEAL. HOW TRUE ARE THOSE CLAIMS?

HOW TRUE ARE THOSE CLAIMS? >> WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS ACOSTA

>> WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS ACOSTA REALLY TRYING TO PASS THE BUCK

REALLY TRYING TO PASS THE BUCK TO THE STATE PROSECUTORS.

TO THE STATE PROSECUTORS. ESSENTIALLY HE IS SAYING THE

ESSENTIALLY HE IS SAYING THE STATE HAD NEGOTIATED THIS

STATE HAD NEGOTIATED THIS TERRIBLE DEAL.

TERRIBLE DEAL. WE HAD TO SWOOP IN AND TRY TO

WE HAD TO SWOOP IN AND TRY TO SAVE THE DAY, BUT I THINK THAT

SAVE THE DAY, BUT I THINK THAT REALLY FALLS SHORT.

REALLY FALLS SHORT. FIRST OF ALL, IF HE REALLY

FIRST OF ALL, IF HE REALLY WANTED TO SWOOP IN AND SAVE THE

WANTED TO SWOOP IN AND SAVE THE DAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A

DAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A 53-PAGE INDICTMENT THAT HIS

53-PAGE INDICTMENT THAT HIS OFFICE HAD DRAFTED, WHY NOT GO

OFFICE HAD DRAFTED, WHY NOT GO FORWARD WITH THOSE CHARGES?

FORWARD WITH THOSE CHARGES? WE STILL HAVE NOT SEEN A GOOD

WE STILL HAVE NOT SEEN A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR WHY THEY DECIDED

EXPLANATION FOR WHY THEY DECIDED TO WALKWAY FROM FEDERAL CHARGES

TO WALKWAY FROM FEDERAL CHARGES ALTOGETHER.

ALTOGETHER. AND IF HE DIDN’T LIKE THE WAY

AND IF HE DIDN’T LIKE THE WAY THAT THE STATE CHARGES ENDED UP

THAT THE STATE CHARGES ENDED UP PLAYING OUT WITH HIM GETTING OUT

PLAYING OUT WITH HIM GETTING OUT OF JAIL SI

OF JAIL SI THERE WERE AT THAT TIME IN 2007

THERE WERE AT THAT TIME IN 2007 AND 2008 VERY ON-POINT FEDERAL

AND 2008 VERY ON-POINT FEDERAL STATUTES THAT WOULD HAVE

STATUTES THAT WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED ACCOSTOSTA WENT TO JA

GUARANTEED ACCOSTOSTA WENT TO JA FOR YEARS, NOT MONTHS.

FOR YEARS, NOT MONTHS. THAT DIDN’T CARRY MUCH WEIGHT

THAT DIDN’T CARRY MUCH WEIGHT FOR ME.

FOR ME. >> WATCHING AS A PROSECUTOR,

>> WATCHING AS A PROSECUTOR, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE LATEST

WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE LATEST VICTIM COMING UOUT TODAY?

VICTIM COMING UOUT TODAY? IT’S AMAZING LISTENING TO WHAT

IT’S AMAZING LISTENING TO WHAT HE DID TO HER.

HE DID TO HER. THIS THING IS NOT GOING AWAY, IS

THIS THING IS NOT GOING AWAY, IS IT?

IT? >> IT IS DEFINITELY NOT GOING

>> IT IS DEFINITELY NOT GOING AWAY.

AWAY. IT WAS INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL

IT WAS INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL WATCHING HER INTERVIEW TODAY.

WATCHING HER INTERVIEW TODAY. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO FEED

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO FEED RIGHT INTO THE CASE THAT THE

RIGHT INTO THE CASE THAT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK IS

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK IS GOING TO BRING.

GOING TO BRING. I THINK PERHAPS THEY WILL ADD

I THINK PERHAPS THEY WILL ADD HER AS A VICTIM TO THEIR CASE.

HER AS A VICTIM TO THEIR CASE. AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW WHY SEX

AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW WHY SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES WERE SO

TRAFFICKING CHARGES WERE SO IMPORTANT AND CONTINUE TO BE SO

IMPORTANT AND CONTINUE TO BE SO IMPORTANT FOR PROSECUTORS TO

IMPORTANT FOR PROSECUTORS TO BRING.

BRING. THIS IS A MAN, JEFFREY EPSTEIN,

THIS IS A MAN, JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WHO SIMPLY HAS NOT BEEN HELD

WHO SIMPLY HAS NOT BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE HORRIFIC

ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE HORRIFIC CONDUCT THAT HE DID.

CONDUCT THAT HE DID. AND IT’S TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO

AND IT’S TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO ACTUALLY SAY NO.

ACTUALLY SAY NO. 13 MONTHS IN JAIL WHERE YOU GET

13 MONTHS IN JAIL WHERE YOU GET TO LEAVE SIX OUT OF SEVEN DAYS A

TO LEAVE SIX OUT OF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK JUST DOESN’T SEEM

WEEK JUST DOESN’T SEEM SUFFICIENT.

SUFFICIENT. >> KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW OF THIS

>> KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW OF THIS CASE AND THIS GUY’S MISDEEDS,

CASE AND THIS GUY’S MISDEEDS, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU PUT HIM

HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU PUT HIM AWAY FOR?

AWAY FOR? >> I DID SEX TRAFFICKING CASES

>> I DID SEX TRAFFICKING CASES WHERE WE GAVE PEOPLE WITH FAR

WHERE WE GAVE PEOPLE WITH FAR FEWER VICTIMS A MANDATORY TERM

FEWER VICTIMS A MANDATORY TERM TEN YEARS IN PRISON.

TEN YEARS IN PRISON. YEARS IN PRISON IS ABSOLUTELY

YEARS IN PRISON IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE.

APPROPRIATE. >> KIMBERLY, THIS DOES A COUPLE

>> KIMBERLY, THIS DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE YOU AND I

OF THINGS, BECAUSE YOU AND I TALK ABOUT SO MANY THINGS ON

TALK ABOUT SO MANY THINGS ON THIS PROGRAM.

THIS PROGRAM. TRUMP’S PERSONALITY, TRUMP’S OWN

TRUMP’S PERSONALITY, TRUMP’S OWN RAP SHEET, THE "ACCESS

RAP SHEET, THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD," THE WOMEN HE PAID

HOLLYWOOD," THE WOMEN HE PAID OFF, ALL THAT BEHAVIOR OF HIS.

OFF, ALL THAT BEHAVIOR OF HIS. TAKES HIM BACK TO THE SLEAZE

TAKES HIM BACK TO THE SLEAZE PROBLEM.

PROBLEM. HE MUST BE THINKING EVERY DAY

HE MUST BE THINKING EVERY DAY WE’RE TALKING ABOUT EPSTEIN.

WE’RE TALKING ABOUT EPSTEIN. WE’RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT ME

WE’RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT ME TOO.

TOO. >> YES.

>> YES. >> I MEAN HIM, NOT JUST A

>> I MEAN HIM, NOT JUST A MOVEMENT.

MOVEMENT. >> HE’S DONE TWO THINGS.

>> HE’S DONE TWO THINGS. HE DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM

HE DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM EPSTEIN AS SOMEONE HE DID KNOW

EPSTEIN AS SOMEONE HE DID KNOW AND SOCIALIZED WITHES YEARS AGO.

AND SOCIALIZED WITHES YEARS AGO. >> 14 TIMES HIS DIFFERENT PHONE

>> 14 TIMES HIS DIFFERENT PHONE NUMBERS SHOW UP IN EPSTEIN’S

NUMBERS SHOW UP IN EPSTEIN’S BOOK, HIS BLACK BOOK.

BOOK, HIS BLACK BOOK. >> BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE

>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE DEMANDED THAT SECRETARY ACOSTA

DEMANDED THAT SECRETARY ACOSTA GO DEFEND HIMSELF IN THE WAY,

GO DEFEND HIMSELF IN THE WAY, THE SAME AS HE WANTED TO SEE

THE SAME AS HE WANTED TO SEE BRETT KAVANAUGH DEFEND HIMSELF

BRETT KAVANAUGH DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST THOSE CHARGES.

AGAINST THOSE CHARGES. BUT IN THIS CASE, HE WANTED

BUT IN THIS CASE, HE WANTED ACOSTA TO DENY IT, TO DEFEND

ACOSTA TO DENY IT, TO DEFEND HIMSELF, TO GIVE A REASON FOR

HIMSELF, TO GIVE A REASON FOR HIM TO STAND BEHIND HIM.

HIM TO STAND BEHIND HIM. BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME,

BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES NOT LIKE

PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES NOT LIKE THE PERCEPTION THAT HE IS BEING

THE PERCEPTION THAT HE IS BEING PUSHED TO DO SOMETHING BY

PUSHED TO DO SOMETHING BY DEMOCRATS, BY PEOPLE IN THE

DEMOCRATS, BY PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA.

MEDIA. SO HE WANTS TO FIGHT BACK

SO HE WANTS TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THIS, AND HIS INSTINCT

AGAINST THIS, AND HIS INSTINCT IS TO BACK ACOSTA AND TO GET

IS TO BACK ACOSTA AND TO GET ACOSTA TO DEFEND HIMSELF.

ACOSTA TO DEFEND HIMSELF. THAT’S WHAT WE SAW TODAY.

THAT’S WHAT WE SAW TODAY. BUT ACOSTA’S BIGGEST CONCERN,

BUT ACOSTA’S BIGGEST CONCERN, ACCORDING TO FOLKS WHO I TALKED

ACCORDING TO FOLKS WHO I TALKED TO WHO ARE CLOSE TO REPUBLICANS

TO WHO ARE CLOSE TO REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL AND THE WHITE HOUSE

ON THE HILL AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS THAT REPUBLICANS WERE NOT

IS THAT REPUBLICANS WERE NOT LIKING THE JOB HE WAS DOING.

LIKING THE JOB HE WAS DOING. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE

THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE PRESIDENT TO REMOVE IT FOR A

PRESIDENT TO REMOVE IT FOR A REASON, BECAUSE HE WASN’T

REASON, BECAUSE HE WASN’T ROLLING BACK THE REGULATIONS AT

ROLLING BACK THE REGULATIONS AT THE SPEED THEY WANTED.

THE SPEED THEY WANTED. SO THIS MAY ACTUALLY SAVE HIM TO

SO THIS MAY ACTUALLY SAVE HIM TO GET THE PRESIDENT TO BACK HIM

GET THE PRESIDENT TO BACK HIM AND JOIN IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST

AND JOIN IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS.