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FEDS FLEX IBLTDIBILITY AND WER IN A GOOD PLACE WHEN YOU PUT IT

IN A GOOD PLACE WHEN YOU PUT IT ALTOGETHER.

ALTOGETHER. >> WITH THAT AS A BACKDROP,

>> WITH THAT AS A BACKDROP, JOINING US NOW, VICE CHAIR OF

JOINING US NOW, VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS,

THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK OF

CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK OF MASSACHUSETTS.

MASSACHUSETTS. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE

GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.

SHOW. LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY.

LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY. WHAT ARE THE CHAL LEKS AND

WHAT ARE THE CHAL LEKS AND WHATS

WHATS CHALLENGES AND WHATS THE FOCUS?

CHALLENGES AND WHATS THE FOCUS? THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO BE

THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO BE PUSHING BACK, WILL NOT

PUSHING BACK, WILL NOT PARTICIPATE, WILL NOT ALLOW

PARTICIPATE, WILL NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE?

PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE? >> YEAH, SO WERE ANTICIPATING A

>> YEAH, SO WERE ANTICIPATING A CRUCIAL VOTE TODAY IN THE HOUSE.

CRUCIAL VOTE TODAY IN THE HOUSE. AS WE LOOK AT SET THE STAGETING

AS WE LOOK AT SET THE STAGETING FOR THE NEXT PART OF THIS

FOR THE NEXT PART OF THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WHERE WE

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WHERE WE MOVE TO BRINGING THE WITNESSES

MOVE TO BRINGING THE WITNESSES AND TESTIMONY TO THE AMERICAN

AND TESTIMONY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

PEOPLE. THATS WHAT WERE DOING WITH

THATS WHAT WERE DOING WITH THIS INQUIRY, PUTTING THE TRUTH

THIS INQUIRY, PUTTING THE TRUTH OUT AND DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY

OUT AND DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY AGAINST WHAT IS A RAPIDLY

AGAINST WHAT IS A RAPIDLY EMERGING PICTURE OF A PRESIDENT

EMERGING PICTURE OF A PRESIDENT WHO HAS ABUSED HIS POWER AND

WHO HAS ABUSED HIS POWER AND BETRAYED HIS OATH AND THE

BETRAYED HIS OATH AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PUT HIS OWN

AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL GAIN OVER OUR NATIONAL

POLITICAL GAIN OVER OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.

SECURITY. >> SO, CONGRESSWOMAN, OF COURSE

>> SO, CONGRESSWOMAN, OF COURSE REPUBLICANS HAVE COME UP WITH A

REPUBLICANS HAVE COME UP WITH A SERIES OF ARGUMENTS, THE TRUMP

SERIES OF ARGUMENTS, THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE HAVE COME UP WITH A

WHITE HOUSE HAVE COME UP WITH A SERIES OF ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE

SERIES OF ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN DISPROVEN QUICKLY.

ALL BEEN DISPROVEN QUICKLY. I SUSPECT WERE GOING TO MOVE

I SUSPECT WERE GOING TO MOVE BEYOND NO QUID PRO QUO BECAUSE

BEYOND NO QUID PRO QUO BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT

ITS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO TO THE

THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO TO THE LAST DESPERATE STAND OF

LAST DESPERATE STAND OF TRUMPISTS, WHICH WILL BE, OKAY,

TRUMPISTS, WHICH WILL BE, OKAY, THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO, BUT

THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO, BUT ITS NOT IMPEACHABLE.

ITS NOT IMPEACHABLE. SO WHY DONT YOU GO AHEAD AND

SO WHY DONT YOU GO AHEAD AND LETS JUST SKIP AHEAD A COUPLE

LETS JUST SKIP AHEAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MAYBE EVEN A MONTH

OF WEEKS OR MAYBE EVEN A MONTH AND WHY DONT YOU TELL US NOW

AND WHY DONT YOU TELL US NOW WHY YOU AND THE DEMOCRATIC

WHY YOU AND THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND A LOT OF PATRIOTIC

CAUCUS AND A LOT OF PATRIOTIC AMERICANS BELIEVE IT IS AN

AMERICANS BELIEVE IT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE TO ACTUALLY

IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE TO ACTUALLY HOLD UP DEFENSE SPENDING FOR A

HOLD UP DEFENSE SPENDING FOR A DEMOCRACY WHOS UNDER ATTACK BY

DEMOCRACY WHOS UNDER ATTACK BY VLADIMIR PUTIN UNTIL THEY GIVE

VLADIMIR PUTIN UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU DIRT ON YOUR POLITICAL

YOU DIRT ON YOUR POLITICAL OPPONENT.

OPPONENT. >> YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK

>> YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUTION.

AT OUR CONSTITUTION. LOOK AT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS TOLD

LOOK AT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS TOLD US.

US. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS INTERFERING

FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS INTERFERING IN OUR ELECTIONS, IN OUR

IN OUR ELECTIONS, IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNMENT. AND IT SEEMS WITH PRESIDENT

AND IT SEEMS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP EVERY SENTENCE THAT BEGINS

TRUMP EVERY SENTENCE THAT BEGINS WITH HIM ENDS WITH PUTIN.

WITH HIM ENDS WITH PUTIN. AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING HERE IS

AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING HERE IS THAT HE DID EXACTLY WHAT THE

THAT HE DID EXACTLY WHAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAID.

WHISTLEBLOWER SAID. THIS IS BEING CORROBORATED BY

THIS IS BEING CORROBORATED BY WITNESS AFTER WITNESS.

WITNESS AFTER WITNESS. HE PUT IT OUT IN THE TRANSCRIPT,

HE PUT IT OUT IN THE TRANSCRIPT, DO US A FAVOR, THOUGH.

DO US A FAVOR, THOUGH. AND HE PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL

AND HE PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL AGENDA, HIS OWN CAMPAIGN OVER

AGENDA, HIS OWN CAMPAIGN OVER THE VERY REAL SECURITY INTERESTS

THE VERY REAL SECURITY INTERESTS OF AMERICANS AND OF AN ALLY IN

OF AMERICANS AND OF AN ALLY IN UKRAINE WHO NEEDED US.

UKRAINE WHO NEEDED US. IT HAS BEEN PUT OUT STARKLY BY

IT HAS BEEN PUT OUT STARKLY BY WITNESSES THIS IS A LIFE OR

WITNESSES THIS IS A LIFE OR DEATH ISSUE FOR UKRAINE PEOPLE

DEATH ISSUE FOR UKRAINE PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

EVERY SINGLE DAY. UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.

UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.

AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT. AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE

AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE DEMOCRATS IS WE ARE TAKING THIS

DEMOCRATS IS WE ARE TAKING THIS DELIBERATIVELY.

DELIBERATIVELY. WE ARE BEING SOLEMN AND SOBER

WE ARE BEING SOLEMN AND SOBER ABOUT THIS.

ABOUT THIS. BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS OUT

BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS OUT IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THE FACTS THAT HAVE EMERGED

AND THE FACTS THAT HAVE EMERGED IN JUST THE LAST FIVE WEEKS ARE

IN JUST THE LAST FIVE WEEKS ARE PAINTING A STARK PICTURE OF

PAINTING A STARK PICTURE OF BETRAYAL.

BETRAYAL. >> AND YOU MAY GET MORE

>> AND YOU MAY GET MORE CORROBORATION OF THOSE FACTS

CORROBORATION OF THOSE FACTS TODAY OF WITNESSES AND NEXT WEEK

TODAY OF WITNESSES AND NEXT WEEK ESPECIALLY IF JOHN BOLTON ENDS

ESPECIALLY IF JOHN BOLTON ENDS UP TESTIFYING ON CAPITOL HILL.

UP TESTIFYING ON CAPITOL HILL. ITS WILLIE GEIST.

ITS WILLIE GEIST. THE REPUBLICANS OR COLLEAGUES DO

THE REPUBLICANS OR COLLEAGUES DO SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON PROCESS

SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON PROCESS AND THE NOT FACT YOU TALKED

AND THE NOT FACT YOU TALKED ABOUT THERE.

ABOUT THERE. STEVE SCALISE AND OTHERS HAVE

STEVE SCALISE AND OTHERS HAVE LED THE WAY CALLING THIS A

LED THE WAY CALLING THIS A SOVIET STYLE IMPEACHMENT

SOVIET STYLE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, SUGGESTING ITS

PROCESS, SUGGESTING ITS SECRETIVE, THAT YOURE DOING IT

SECRETIVE, THAT YOURE DOING IT IN THE DARK BASEMENT OF THE

IN THE DARK BASEMENT OF THE CAPITOL.

CAPITOL. COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR OUR

COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR OUR VIEWERS HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING

VIEWERS HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING AND ARE THERE REPUBLICANS

AND ARE THERE REPUBLICANS SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH THE

SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS?

OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS SOVIET

IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS SOVIET ABOUT THIS PROCESS?

ABOUT THIS PROCESS? >> YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR

>> YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION TOO, WILL.

YOUR QUESTION TOO, WILL. I -- IT IS REALLY BREATH TAKING

I -- IT IS REALLY BREATH TAKING TO WATCH MY COLLEAGUES.

TO WATCH MY COLLEAGUES. THEY CANNOT EXCUSE THIS

THEY CANNOT EXCUSE THIS PRESIDENTS CONDUCT SO THEYRE

PRESIDENTS CONDUCT SO THEYRE TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION

TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND PROCESS.

AROUND PROCESS. AND THEY ARE MISLEADING THE

AND THEY ARE MISLEADING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY

AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY THIS IS A SECRET INVESTIGATION

THIS IS A SECRET INVESTIGATION WHICH THEYRE NOT INVOLVED IN.

WHICH THEYRE NOT INVOLVED IN. IF YOU SIT ON ONE OF THE

IF YOU SIT ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION,

COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION, WHICH 48 REPUBLICANS DO, YOU CAN

WHICH 48 REPUBLICANS DO, YOU CAN BE IN THAT ROOM LISTENING TO

BE IN THAT ROOM LISTENING TO THIS TESTIMONY.

THIS TESTIMONY. AND, THERE IS REPUBLICAN COUNSEL

AND, THERE IS REPUBLICAN COUNSEL PRESENT ASKING QUESTIONS ON

PRESENT ASKING QUESTIONS ON THEIR BEHALF AT EVERY SINGLE ONE

THEIR BEHALF AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DEPOSITIONS.

OF THESE DEPOSITIONS. NOW THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO THE

NOW THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO THE PUBLIC PHASE OF THIS INQUIRY,

PUBLIC PHASE OF THIS INQUIRY, ALL THOSE PROCESS QUESTIONS ARE

ALL THOSE PROCESS QUESTIONS ARE FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE AND IM

FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE AND IM AFRAID WHAT WERE GOING TO SEE

AFRAID WHAT WERE GOING TO SEE IS THE PLAYBOOK OF THIS WHITE

IS THE PLAYBOOK OF THIS WHITE HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS OF SMEAR

HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS OF SMEAR AND FEAR COMING BACK INTO PLAY

AND FEAR COMING BACK INTO PLAY BECAUSE ITS ALL THEY HAVE.

BECAUSE ITS ALL THEY HAVE. >> ITS ALL THEY HAVE.

>> ITS ALL THEY HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR OF THE

>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC KARK CAUCUS,

HOUSE DEMOCRATIC KARK CAUCUS, CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK.

CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK. NICE TO HAVE YOU.

NICE TO HAVE YOU. STEVE SCALISE TALKS ABOUT SOVIET

STEVE SCALISE TALKS ABOUT SOVIET STYLE.

STYLE. IF I WERE STEVE SCALISE I

IF I WERE STEVE SCALISE I PROBABLY WOULDNT BRING UP THE

PROBABLY WOULDNT BRING UP THE SOVIET UNION BECAUSE THEN YOU

SOVIET UNION BECAUSE THEN YOU THINK OF THE EX-KGB AGENT THAT

THINK OF THE EX-KGB AGENT THAT IS STEVE SCALISES HERO, THAT

IS STEVE SCALISES HERO, THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SIDES WITH, MORE THAN

STATES SIDES WITH, MORE THAN SIDES WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF

SIDES WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR INTEL COMMITTEE.

OUR INTEL COMMITTEE. STAY AWAY FROM SOVIET OR

STAY AWAY FROM SOVIET OR ANYTHING RUSSIAN, STEVE, NOT A

ANYTHING RUSSIAN, STEVE, NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR THE ENTIRE

GOOD LOOK FOR THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

REPUBLICAN PARTY. BUT YOU KNOW WHATS FASCINATING?

BUT YOU KNOW WHATS FASCINATING? THEYRE WHINING ABOUT THESE

THEYRE WHINING ABOUT THESE BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR MEETINGS AND

BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR MEETINGS AND YOU HAVE TREY GOWDY WHO COMES

YOU HAVE TREY GOWDY WHO COMES OUT AND SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DO

OUT AND SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS IN PRIVATE.

THESE THINGS IN PRIVATE. IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS TIME

IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR THE FACT

AND TIME AGAIN FOR THE FACT FINDING OF ALL OF THEIR BENGHAZI

FINDING OF ALL OF THEIR BENGHAZI HEARINGS, THEY WENT BEHIND

HEARINGS, THEY WENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

CLOSED DOORS. TREY GOWDY SAID IT WAS THE ONLY

TREY GOWDY SAID IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.

WAY TO DO IT. IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND

IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND THEY PREFERRED DO IT THAT WAY.

THEY PREFERRED DO IT THAT WAY. I DONT KNOW IF REPUBLICANS

I DONT KNOW IF REPUBLICANS THINK THAT THE OVERWHELMING

THINK THAT THE OVERWHELMING AMERICAN -- PART OF THE AMERICAN

AMERICAN -- PART OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR

PUBLIC ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR COLLECTIVE MEMORY, BUT WERE

COLLECTIVE MEMORY, BUT WERE NOT.

NOT. AND THEY JUST LOOK STUPID WHEN

AND THEY JUST LOOK STUPID WHEN THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THAT. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. IM GLAD CONGRESSWOMAN CLARK

IM GLAD CONGRESSWOMAN CLARK LAID OUT AGAIN WHAT ACTUALLY

LAID OUT AGAIN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THAT ROOM.

HAPPENS IN THAT ROOM. BECAUSE TO LISTEN TO STEVE

BECAUSE TO LISTEN TO STEVE SCALISE, ITS NOT JUST HIM, THE

SCALISE, ITS NOT JUST HIM, THE SOVIET THING SAY TALKING POINT.

SOVIET THING SAY TALKING POINT. THERE WAS ONE CONGRESSMAN

THERE WAS ONE CONGRESSMAN YESTERDAY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE

YESTERDAY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE HEARING ROOM BEING A, QUOTE,

HEARING ROOM BEING A, QUOTE, SECRET CHAMBER AS IF YOU HAD TO

SECRET CHAMBER AS IF YOU HAD TO PULL A BOOK OUT OF A WALL AND

PULL A BOOK OUT OF A WALL AND YOU CAN PROCEED BACK INSIDE.

YOU CAN PROCEED BACK INSIDE. THERES REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM,

THERES REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM, THERES REPUBLICAN COUNSEL IN

THERES REPUBLICAN COUNSEL IN THE ROOM, THEY HAVE EQUAL TIME

THE ROOM, THEY HAVE EQUAL TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS IS AN INVENTED DISTRACTION

THIS IS AN INVENTED DISTRACTION FROM WHATS HAPPENING IN THE

FROM WHATS HAPPENING IN THE ROOM.

ROOM. THE IDEA THAT REPUBLICANS DONT

THE IDEA THAT REPUBLICANS DONT HAVE A ADVICEVOICE IN THERE AND

HAVE A ADVICEVOICE IN THERE AND THEREFORE THEY NEED TO STORM THE

THEREFORE THEY NEED TO STORM THE SCIF AND SET UP SHOP AND EAT

SCIF AND SET UP SHOP AND EAT PIZZA TO MAKE A POINT, ITS NOT

PIZZA TO MAKE A POINT, ITS NOT BASED IN FACT.

BASED IN FACT. THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN THE

THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM AND IF THEY DONT LIKE THE

ROOM AND IF THEY DONT LIKE THE WAY ITS PROCEEDING, THERE WILL

WAY ITS PROCEEDING, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

BE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE

THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE PUBLIC

PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

HEARINGS. >> FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS.

>> FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS. >> TRANCE PATIENCE.

>> TRANCE PATIENCE. >> I AND THETRANSPARENCY.

>> I AND THETRANSPARENCY. >> AND SO MANY OF THE BUFFOONS

>> AND SO MANY OF THE BUFFOONS WHO WERE OUTSIDE HAVING A PIZZA

WHO WERE OUTSIDE HAVING A PIZZA PARTY AND MAKING IT A COMPLETE

PARTY AND MAKING IT A COMPLETE MOCKERY OF THE PROCESS AND AS

MOCKERY OF THE PROCESS AND AS GENERAL HADEN SAID PROBABLY WERE

GENERAL HADEN SAID PROBABLY WERE COMMITTING CRIMES BY DOING THAT

COMMITTING CRIMES BY DOING THAT IF THEY HAD PHONES, SO MANY OF

IF THEY HAD PHONES, SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN

THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE.

INSIDE. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. >> LIKE THEYRE ON THE --

>> LIKE THEYRE ON THE -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON THE

>> THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEES THAT CAN HEAR THIS

COMMITTEES THAT CAN HEAR THIS TESTIMONY.

TESTIMONY. BUT THEY DECIDED TO SIT OUTSIDE

BUT THEY DECIDED TO SIT OUTSIDE AND MAKE AN ASS OF THEMSELVES.

AND MAKE AN ASS OF THEMSELVES. AGAIN, AS GENERAL HADEN SAID,

AGAIN, AS GENERAL HADEN SAID, COMMIT CRIMES BECAUSE THEYLL

COMMIT CRIMES BECAUSE THEYLL DEGRADE THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS

DEGRADE THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE JUST TO GET ON DONALD

POSSIBLE JUST TO GET ON DONALD TRUMPS GOOD SIDE.

TRUMPS GOOD SIDE. >> BUT LIKE TRUMP, THEY ARE

>> BUT LIKE TRUMP, THEY ARE TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEYRE

TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEYRE STUPID.

STUPID. >>> UP NEXT, "TIME" MAGAZINE IS

>>> UP NEXT, "TIME" MAGAZINE IS LOOKING AT RUDY GIULIANIS

LOOKING AT RUDY GIULIANIS BEWILDERING TURN FROM AMERICAS

BEWILDERING TURN FROM AMERICAS MAYOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMPS

MAYOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMPS ATTACK DOG AND CHIEF.

ATTACK DOG AND CHIEF. >> IM AFRAID THE DOG MAY BE

>> IM AFRAID THE DOG MAY BE RABID.

RABID. ITS RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES

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