INTEREST RATES WHICH LIMIT THE FEDS FLEX IBLTDIBILITY AND WER
FEDS FLEX IBLTDIBILITY AND WER IN A GOOD PLACE WHEN YOU PUT IT
IN A GOOD PLACE WHEN YOU PUT IT ALTOGETHER.
ALTOGETHER. >> WITH THAT AS A BACKDROP,
>> WITH THAT AS A BACKDROP, JOINING US NOW, VICE CHAIR OF
JOINING US NOW, VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS,
THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK OF
CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK OF MASSACHUSETTS.
MASSACHUSETTS. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.
SHOW. LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY. WHAT ARE THE CHAL LEKS AND
WHAT ARE THE CHAL LEKS AND WHATS
WHATS CHALLENGES AND WHATS THE FOCUS?
CHALLENGES AND WHATS THE FOCUS? THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO BE
THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO BE PUSHING BACK, WILL NOT
PUSHING BACK, WILL NOT PARTICIPATE, WILL NOT ALLOW
PARTICIPATE, WILL NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE?
PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE? >> YEAH, SO WERE ANTICIPATING A
>> YEAH, SO WERE ANTICIPATING A CRUCIAL VOTE TODAY IN THE HOUSE.
CRUCIAL VOTE TODAY IN THE HOUSE. AS WE LOOK AT SET THE STAGETING
AS WE LOOK AT SET THE STAGETING FOR THE NEXT PART OF THIS
FOR THE NEXT PART OF THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WHERE WE
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WHERE WE MOVE TO BRINGING THE WITNESSES
MOVE TO BRINGING THE WITNESSES AND TESTIMONY TO THE AMERICAN
AND TESTIMONY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THATS WHAT WERE DOING WITH
THATS WHAT WERE DOING WITH THIS INQUIRY, PUTTING THE TRUTH
THIS INQUIRY, PUTTING THE TRUTH OUT AND DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY
OUT AND DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY AGAINST WHAT IS A RAPIDLY
AGAINST WHAT IS A RAPIDLY EMERGING PICTURE OF A PRESIDENT
EMERGING PICTURE OF A PRESIDENT WHO HAS ABUSED HIS POWER AND
WHO HAS ABUSED HIS POWER AND BETRAYED HIS OATH AND THE
BETRAYED HIS OATH AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PUT HIS OWN
AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL GAIN OVER OUR NATIONAL
POLITICAL GAIN OVER OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
SECURITY. >> SO, CONGRESSWOMAN, OF COURSE
>> SO, CONGRESSWOMAN, OF COURSE REPUBLICANS HAVE COME UP WITH A
REPUBLICANS HAVE COME UP WITH A SERIES OF ARGUMENTS, THE TRUMP
SERIES OF ARGUMENTS, THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE HAVE COME UP WITH A
WHITE HOUSE HAVE COME UP WITH A SERIES OF ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE
SERIES OF ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN DISPROVEN QUICKLY.
ALL BEEN DISPROVEN QUICKLY. I SUSPECT WERE GOING TO MOVE
I SUSPECT WERE GOING TO MOVE BEYOND NO QUID PRO QUO BECAUSE
BEYOND NO QUID PRO QUO BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT
ITS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO TO THE
THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO TO THE LAST DESPERATE STAND OF
LAST DESPERATE STAND OF TRUMPISTS, WHICH WILL BE, OKAY,
TRUMPISTS, WHICH WILL BE, OKAY, THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO, BUT
THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO, BUT ITS NOT IMPEACHABLE.
ITS NOT IMPEACHABLE. SO WHY DONT YOU GO AHEAD AND
SO WHY DONT YOU GO AHEAD AND LETS JUST SKIP AHEAD A COUPLE
LETS JUST SKIP AHEAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MAYBE EVEN A MONTH
OF WEEKS OR MAYBE EVEN A MONTH AND WHY DONT YOU TELL US NOW
AND WHY DONT YOU TELL US NOW WHY YOU AND THE DEMOCRATIC
WHY YOU AND THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND A LOT OF PATRIOTIC
CAUCUS AND A LOT OF PATRIOTIC AMERICANS BELIEVE IT IS AN
AMERICANS BELIEVE IT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE TO ACTUALLY
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE TO ACTUALLY HOLD UP DEFENSE SPENDING FOR A
HOLD UP DEFENSE SPENDING FOR A DEMOCRACY WHOS UNDER ATTACK BY
DEMOCRACY WHOS UNDER ATTACK BY VLADIMIR PUTIN UNTIL THEY GIVE
VLADIMIR PUTIN UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU DIRT ON YOUR POLITICAL
YOU DIRT ON YOUR POLITICAL OPPONENT.
OPPONENT. >> YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK
>> YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUTION.
AT OUR CONSTITUTION. LOOK AT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS TOLD
LOOK AT WHAT OUR FOUNDERS TOLD US.
US. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS INTERFERING
FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS INTERFERING IN OUR ELECTIONS, IN OUR
IN OUR ELECTIONS, IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. AND IT SEEMS WITH PRESIDENT
AND IT SEEMS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP EVERY SENTENCE THAT BEGINS
TRUMP EVERY SENTENCE THAT BEGINS WITH HIM ENDS WITH PUTIN.
WITH HIM ENDS WITH PUTIN. AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING HERE IS
AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING HERE IS THAT HE DID EXACTLY WHAT THE
THAT HE DID EXACTLY WHAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAID.
WHISTLEBLOWER SAID. THIS IS BEING CORROBORATED BY
THIS IS BEING CORROBORATED BY WITNESS AFTER WITNESS.
WITNESS AFTER WITNESS. HE PUT IT OUT IN THE TRANSCRIPT,
HE PUT IT OUT IN THE TRANSCRIPT, DO US A FAVOR, THOUGH.
DO US A FAVOR, THOUGH. AND HE PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL
AND HE PUT HIS OWN POLITICAL AGENDA, HIS OWN CAMPAIGN OVER
AGENDA, HIS OWN CAMPAIGN OVER THE VERY REAL SECURITY INTERESTS
THE VERY REAL SECURITY INTERESTS OF AMERICANS AND OF AN ALLY IN
OF AMERICANS AND OF AN ALLY IN UKRAINE WHO NEEDED US.
UKRAINE WHO NEEDED US. IT HAS BEEN PUT OUT STARKLY BY
IT HAS BEEN PUT OUT STARKLY BY WITNESSES THIS IS A LIFE OR
WITNESSES THIS IS A LIFE OR DEATH ISSUE FOR UKRAINE PEOPLE
DEATH ISSUE FOR UKRAINE PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
EVERY SINGLE DAY. UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT. AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE
AND WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE DEMOCRATS IS WE ARE TAKING THIS
DEMOCRATS IS WE ARE TAKING THIS DELIBERATIVELY.
DELIBERATIVELY. WE ARE BEING SOLEMN AND SOBER
WE ARE BEING SOLEMN AND SOBER ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS OUT
BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS OUT IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THE FACTS THAT HAVE EMERGED
AND THE FACTS THAT HAVE EMERGED IN JUST THE LAST FIVE WEEKS ARE
IN JUST THE LAST FIVE WEEKS ARE PAINTING A STARK PICTURE OF
PAINTING A STARK PICTURE OF BETRAYAL.
BETRAYAL. >> AND YOU MAY GET MORE
>> AND YOU MAY GET MORE CORROBORATION OF THOSE FACTS
CORROBORATION OF THOSE FACTS TODAY OF WITNESSES AND NEXT WEEK
TODAY OF WITNESSES AND NEXT WEEK ESPECIALLY IF JOHN BOLTON ENDS
ESPECIALLY IF JOHN BOLTON ENDS UP TESTIFYING ON CAPITOL HILL.
UP TESTIFYING ON CAPITOL HILL. ITS WILLIE GEIST.
ITS WILLIE GEIST. THE REPUBLICANS OR COLLEAGUES DO
THE REPUBLICANS OR COLLEAGUES DO SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON PROCESS
SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON PROCESS AND THE NOT FACT YOU TALKED
AND THE NOT FACT YOU TALKED ABOUT THERE.
ABOUT THERE. STEVE SCALISE AND OTHERS HAVE
STEVE SCALISE AND OTHERS HAVE LED THE WAY CALLING THIS A
LED THE WAY CALLING THIS A SOVIET STYLE IMPEACHMENT
SOVIET STYLE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, SUGGESTING ITS
PROCESS, SUGGESTING ITS SECRETIVE, THAT YOURE DOING IT
SECRETIVE, THAT YOURE DOING IT IN THE DARK BASEMENT OF THE
IN THE DARK BASEMENT OF THE CAPITOL.
CAPITOL. COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR OUR
COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR OUR VIEWERS HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING
VIEWERS HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING AND ARE THERE REPUBLICANS
AND ARE THERE REPUBLICANS SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH THE
SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS?
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS SOVIET
IN OTHER WORDS, WHATS SOVIET ABOUT THIS PROCESS?
ABOUT THIS PROCESS? >> YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR
>> YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION TOO, WILL.
YOUR QUESTION TOO, WILL. I -- IT IS REALLY BREATH TAKING
I -- IT IS REALLY BREATH TAKING TO WATCH MY COLLEAGUES.
TO WATCH MY COLLEAGUES. THEY CANNOT EXCUSE THIS
THEY CANNOT EXCUSE THIS PRESIDENTS CONDUCT SO THEYRE
PRESIDENTS CONDUCT SO THEYRE TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND PROCESS.
AROUND PROCESS. AND THEY ARE MISLEADING THE
AND THEY ARE MISLEADING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY
AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY THIS IS A SECRET INVESTIGATION
THIS IS A SECRET INVESTIGATION WHICH THEYRE NOT INVOLVED IN.
WHICH THEYRE NOT INVOLVED IN. IF YOU SIT ON ONE OF THE
IF YOU SIT ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION,
COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION, WHICH 48 REPUBLICANS DO, YOU CAN
WHICH 48 REPUBLICANS DO, YOU CAN BE IN THAT ROOM LISTENING TO
BE IN THAT ROOM LISTENING TO THIS TESTIMONY.
THIS TESTIMONY. AND, THERE IS REPUBLICAN COUNSEL
AND, THERE IS REPUBLICAN COUNSEL PRESENT ASKING QUESTIONS ON
PRESENT ASKING QUESTIONS ON THEIR BEHALF AT EVERY SINGLE ONE
THEIR BEHALF AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DEPOSITIONS.
OF THESE DEPOSITIONS. NOW THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO THE
NOW THAT WE ARE MOVING INTO THE PUBLIC PHASE OF THIS INQUIRY,
PUBLIC PHASE OF THIS INQUIRY, ALL THOSE PROCESS QUESTIONS ARE
ALL THOSE PROCESS QUESTIONS ARE FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE AND IM
FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE AND IM AFRAID WHAT WERE GOING TO SEE
AFRAID WHAT WERE GOING TO SEE IS THE PLAYBOOK OF THIS WHITE
IS THE PLAYBOOK OF THIS WHITE HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS OF SMEAR
HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS OF SMEAR AND FEAR COMING BACK INTO PLAY
AND FEAR COMING BACK INTO PLAY BECAUSE ITS ALL THEY HAVE.
BECAUSE ITS ALL THEY HAVE. >> ITS ALL THEY HAVE.
>> ITS ALL THEY HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR OF THE
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC KARK CAUCUS,
HOUSE DEMOCRATIC KARK CAUCUS, CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK.
CONGRESSWOMAN KATHERINE CLARK. NICE TO HAVE YOU.
NICE TO HAVE YOU. STEVE SCALISE TALKS ABOUT SOVIET
STEVE SCALISE TALKS ABOUT SOVIET STYLE.
STYLE. IF I WERE STEVE SCALISE I
IF I WERE STEVE SCALISE I PROBABLY WOULDNT BRING UP THE
PROBABLY WOULDNT BRING UP THE SOVIET UNION BECAUSE THEN YOU
SOVIET UNION BECAUSE THEN YOU THINK OF THE EX-KGB AGENT THAT
THINK OF THE EX-KGB AGENT THAT IS STEVE SCALISES HERO, THAT
IS STEVE SCALISES HERO, THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SIDES WITH, MORE THAN
STATES SIDES WITH, MORE THAN SIDES WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF
SIDES WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR INTEL COMMITTEE.
OUR INTEL COMMITTEE. STAY AWAY FROM SOVIET OR
STAY AWAY FROM SOVIET OR ANYTHING RUSSIAN, STEVE, NOT A
ANYTHING RUSSIAN, STEVE, NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR THE ENTIRE
GOOD LOOK FOR THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
REPUBLICAN PARTY. BUT YOU KNOW WHATS FASCINATING?
BUT YOU KNOW WHATS FASCINATING? THEYRE WHINING ABOUT THESE
THEYRE WHINING ABOUT THESE BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR MEETINGS AND
BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR MEETINGS AND YOU HAVE TREY GOWDY WHO COMES
YOU HAVE TREY GOWDY WHO COMES OUT AND SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DO
OUT AND SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS IN PRIVATE.
THESE THINGS IN PRIVATE. IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS TIME
IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR THE FACT
AND TIME AGAIN FOR THE FACT FINDING OF ALL OF THEIR BENGHAZI
FINDING OF ALL OF THEIR BENGHAZI HEARINGS, THEY WENT BEHIND
HEARINGS, THEY WENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
CLOSED DOORS. TREY GOWDY SAID IT WAS THE ONLY
TREY GOWDY SAID IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
WAY TO DO IT. IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND
IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND THEY PREFERRED DO IT THAT WAY.
THEY PREFERRED DO IT THAT WAY. I DONT KNOW IF REPUBLICANS
I DONT KNOW IF REPUBLICANS THINK THAT THE OVERWHELMING
THINK THAT THE OVERWHELMING AMERICAN -- PART OF THE AMERICAN
AMERICAN -- PART OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR
PUBLIC ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR COLLECTIVE MEMORY, BUT WERE
COLLECTIVE MEMORY, BUT WERE NOT.
NOT. AND THEY JUST LOOK STUPID WHEN
AND THEY JUST LOOK STUPID WHEN THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THAT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. IM GLAD CONGRESSWOMAN CLARK
IM GLAD CONGRESSWOMAN CLARK LAID OUT AGAIN WHAT ACTUALLY
LAID OUT AGAIN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THAT ROOM.
HAPPENS IN THAT ROOM. BECAUSE TO LISTEN TO STEVE
BECAUSE TO LISTEN TO STEVE SCALISE, ITS NOT JUST HIM, THE
SCALISE, ITS NOT JUST HIM, THE SOVIET THING SAY TALKING POINT.
SOVIET THING SAY TALKING POINT. THERE WAS ONE CONGRESSMAN
THERE WAS ONE CONGRESSMAN YESTERDAY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE
YESTERDAY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE HEARING ROOM BEING A, QUOTE,
HEARING ROOM BEING A, QUOTE, SECRET CHAMBER AS IF YOU HAD TO
SECRET CHAMBER AS IF YOU HAD TO PULL A BOOK OUT OF A WALL AND
PULL A BOOK OUT OF A WALL AND YOU CAN PROCEED BACK INSIDE.
YOU CAN PROCEED BACK INSIDE. THERES REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM,
THERES REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM, THERES REPUBLICAN COUNSEL IN
THERES REPUBLICAN COUNSEL IN THE ROOM, THEY HAVE EQUAL TIME
THE ROOM, THEY HAVE EQUAL TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.
TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS IS AN INVENTED DISTRACTION
THIS IS AN INVENTED DISTRACTION FROM WHATS HAPPENING IN THE
FROM WHATS HAPPENING IN THE ROOM.
ROOM. THE IDEA THAT REPUBLICANS DONT
THE IDEA THAT REPUBLICANS DONT HAVE A ADVICEVOICE IN THERE AND
HAVE A ADVICEVOICE IN THERE AND THEREFORE THEY NEED TO STORM THE
THEREFORE THEY NEED TO STORM THE SCIF AND SET UP SHOP AND EAT
SCIF AND SET UP SHOP AND EAT PIZZA TO MAKE A POINT, ITS NOT
PIZZA TO MAKE A POINT, ITS NOT BASED IN FACT.
BASED IN FACT. THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN THE
THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM AND IF THEY DONT LIKE THE
ROOM AND IF THEY DONT LIKE THE WAY ITS PROCEEDING, THERE WILL
WAY ITS PROCEEDING, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
BE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE
THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE PUBLIC
PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
HEARINGS. >> FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS.
>> FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS. >> TRANCE PATIENCE.
>> TRANCE PATIENCE. >> I AND THETRANSPARENCY.
>> I AND THETRANSPARENCY. >> AND SO MANY OF THE BUFFOONS
>> AND SO MANY OF THE BUFFOONS WHO WERE OUTSIDE HAVING A PIZZA
WHO WERE OUTSIDE HAVING A PIZZA PARTY AND MAKING IT A COMPLETE
PARTY AND MAKING IT A COMPLETE MOCKERY OF THE PROCESS AND AS
MOCKERY OF THE PROCESS AND AS GENERAL HADEN SAID PROBABLY WERE
GENERAL HADEN SAID PROBABLY WERE COMMITTING CRIMES BY DOING THAT
COMMITTING CRIMES BY DOING THAT IF THEY HAD PHONES, SO MANY OF
IF THEY HAD PHONES, SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN
THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE.
INSIDE. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> LIKE THEYRE ON THE --
>> LIKE THEYRE ON THE -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON THE
>> THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEES THAT CAN HEAR THIS
COMMITTEES THAT CAN HEAR THIS TESTIMONY.
TESTIMONY. BUT THEY DECIDED TO SIT OUTSIDE
BUT THEY DECIDED TO SIT OUTSIDE AND MAKE AN ASS OF THEMSELVES.
AND MAKE AN ASS OF THEMSELVES. AGAIN, AS GENERAL HADEN SAID,
AGAIN, AS GENERAL HADEN SAID, COMMIT CRIMES BECAUSE THEYLL
COMMIT CRIMES BECAUSE THEYLL DEGRADE THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS
DEGRADE THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE JUST TO GET ON DONALD
POSSIBLE JUST TO GET ON DONALD TRUMPS GOOD SIDE.
TRUMPS GOOD SIDE. >> BUT LIKE TRUMP, THEY ARE
>> BUT LIKE TRUMP, THEY ARE TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEYRE
TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEYRE STUPID.
STUPID. >>> UP NEXT, "TIME" MAGAZINE IS
>>> UP NEXT, "TIME" MAGAZINE IS LOOKING AT RUDY GIULIANIS
LOOKING AT RUDY GIULIANIS BEWILDERING TURN FROM AMERICAS
BEWILDERING TURN FROM AMERICAS MAYOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMPS
MAYOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMPS ATTACK DOG AND CHIEF.
ATTACK DOG AND CHIEF. >> IM AFRAID THE DOG MAY BE
>> IM AFRAID THE DOG MAY BE RABID.
RABID. ITS RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES