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Please be seated.

Good morning, Your Honor.

Good morning.

This is the case of Winters v. Cawley.

Thank you, Jerome. Good day, everyone.

ALL: Good day.

Ms. Winters, you say that you and Mr. Cawley

have been together for six years,

but now his paternity denial of your son, Amoni,

has put your relationship in jeopardy. Is that correct?

KRISTIN: Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Cawley, you claim that throughout your relationship,

Ms. Winters has been unfaithful,

and say when today's results prove you are not Amoni's father,

the relationship is over, is that correct?

Yes, Your Honor.

So, Ms. Winters, you say your family is in jeopardy.

Yeah, lately...

Explain.

Lately, all we've been doing... We argue all the time.

We have a lot of insecurity issues.

A lot of insecurity?

KRISTIN: Yeah, because of, you know, the past.

It's just resentment from the issues from the past, though.

Well, what kind of issues from the past? Explain.

Betrayal. Me catching her in the bed with another guy.

JUDGE LAKE: Oh!

KRISTIN: We were kind of broken up

and having problems at the time,

and before that, I had caught him talking to another girl, so...

JUDGE LAKE: Wait a minute! Don't skip over that catching in the bed part.

(LAUGHTER)

Mr. Cawley, tell me what happened.

You said you caught her in the bed with somebody else?

Yes, Your Honor. Well, I was away,

and the moment I got home,

I was ready to just flop into bed.

I had been away for many...

And I turned the corner and I see both of them laying in the bed.

And the guy was asleep, and she was in there...

I was just dressed. We were dressed.

You had your clothes on, you said,

but you were in the bed with a guy.

KRISTIN: Yes.

He was a family friend.

He was spending the night there, and Michael was away.

We were having problems at the time.

And this was after I found out

he was talking to another female. So, at that point,

I didn't even want to be with him.

But that's...

Were you sleeping with this guy you were in the bed with?

I had prior to that, but I didn't that night.

JUDGE LAKE: Oh!

MICHAEL: You see what I'm saying, Your Honor?

So, now she's admitting to you she slept with this guy.

He only knows because I told him about it.

I believe the only reason she told me about that

is to cover up the other things that she did. Just the...

What are the other things she did?

MICHAEL: Just rumors of guys being at the house.

Her hanging out with other guys and stuff like that.

I admit, at the time, I was talking to other guys and stuff,

but like I said, at the time, couple months before that,

I had just found out he was with some girl.

I just can't prove he cheated and he won't be man enough to tell me he cheated.

So, I just kind of strung away from the relationship.

Because I didn't cheat!

So, wait a minute. You all have all this going on,

and Mr. Cawley, you're saying because of all of this,

you have doubt concerning Amoni's paternity.

Yes, Your Honor.

And that's why you petitioned this court for a lie detector test.

Am I correct?

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: So, this court has granted that request,

and we will have those results in just a moment.

Okay?

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Moving forward, how'd you two originally meet?

KRISTIN: We had a mutual friend, and we were kind of friends.

We worked together.

And eventually, probably after a year later, we moved in together.

And that's when I think the main problem started happening.

'Cause we started getting more serious. We had more problems.

As soon as we got our first place,

that's exactly when we started going downhill.

Why?

Because...

There's too much responsibility for him.

There was no... I mean, there was no...

She said it was too much responsibility for you, Mr. Cawley.

I'm a young man, I have no kids,

helping her take care of her two kids.

Oh, so when you moved in together,

Ms. Winters had two other children?

MICHAEL: Two other children.

Prior to this relationship?

KRISTIN: But I had them when I met him, too. So...

JUDGE LAKE: And so, when you moved in with her,

you took on the responsibility of these two children?

MICHAEL: I sacrificed a lot.

JUDGE LAKE: Well, I mean, look...

He really didn't sacrifice anything. He just grew up.

'Cause when I met him, he was young,

still living with his mother at home.

And since he got with me...

But, like she said,

I was young...

...he had his first place, like, he's grown up a lot.

And he's just not used to it.

Like she said, I was young.

But everything seemed like it was unfolding, you know what I'm saying?

I was out of high school.

I was into college. I was chasing my dreams, taking care of my mum.

I was the man of the house, my mum's house, taking care of my sister.

And I got with her.

I saw being with her as a path to starting my own life.

But I simply were, kind of, still testing the waters a little bit.

But I was simply talking.

Why were you testing the waters talking to other women

when you were moved in with Ms. Winters?

I guess, being young, saw my future flash before my eyes a little bit.

Oh! The responsibility of raising two children

and being in this relationship made you start thinking...

Yes, Your Honor.

I was still there to take care of my responsibility,

but I probably shouldn't have...

The female friends that I had,

I probably shouldn't have been talking to them as much

with us having a place together.

But that still don't have nothing to do with her

taking it to the whole next level and actually cheating on me.

But the girl he was actually caught talking with,

when I found out he worked with her,

I was like, "Don't talk to her."

And then, next thing I know,

I'm finding out he's at her house, giving her rides.

So, you know, at that point, I was ready to break up with him.

And so, after this incident, you all decided to break up?

We did for maybe, like, a week or two.

But at some point, you come up pregnant.

KRISTIN: Yeah, we ended up getting back together

at the end of 2013, and we pretty much were like,

"Look, we're either going to stay together and quit all this,

"or we're just gonna break up."

So, we pretty much agreed to stay together...

We did make an agreement we weren't going to mess around

and do all of that no more.

And around the time that she said she was pregnant with Amoni,

her family member told me that she was at the house

with the guy that I asked her not to be.

Take me back to that moment. You find out you're pregnant.

I didn't even say nothing or tell him or nothing.

I kind of just bought a test, because I was late, you know.

And when it came back positive,

that's when I called him and I told him about it.

And to be honest, I was unhappy whenever I found out she was pregnant.

But then her family member's spouse told me later on that

she was at the house with this guy numerous times.

Oh! Oh, so you slept with this guy?

No, I didn't. And it was... It was a one-bedroom apartment.

My family member and, you know, his family, and then me and him.

So, it's not like we were in the middle

in the living room sleeping together.

So you're saying, it's your testimony

that you weren't at this house with this man multiple times

as your own family member alerted.

That doesn't, like, Michael told him, yeah.

JUDGE LAKE: This is a mess. You're just on a treadmill.

Running a race and never winning.

And this, coupled with all the other rumors,

you walking in the house, seeing her in the bed with somebody else,

all of these things

have fueled your doubt.

Yes, Your Honor.

And now your relationship is completely... It's on the line.

KRISTIN: Mmm-hmm.

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

We just don't trust each other.

And there's a beautiful 16-month-old baby in the middle of it.

KRISTIN: Mmm-hmm.

And you don't know for certain

if it's your biological child.

No, Your Honor, I don't know.

And you can't trust anything Ms. Winters says because you say

she's lied to you and betrayed you over and over again.

Is that correct?

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

But there's still that "I don't care" attitude, so...

She has an "I don't care" attitude?

Yes, still, to this day. And it just made me feel like,

it never left.

Even after we made that agreement.

You know, it's...

JUDGE LAKE: What's the agreement?

That we... At the beginning of 2014...

JUDGE LAKE: Okay.

...the agreement that we weren't gonna mess around

or do none of that crazy stuff no more.

It made me feel like it never left, 'cause it'd been,

probably, like, two years since then,

and she's still showing that "I don't care" attitude.

And I only act like that because he tries to, you know,

if some guy I went to school with

likes one of my Facebook posts, he's like, "Delete him."

If he's your friend, he's gonna like stuff,

but if he's, like, in every single thing in a row, then I'm like,

"Man, he's on your stuff too much."

KRISTIN: And I should delete them, you know.

JUDGE LAKE: So, there's no trust?

None at all.

Well, that's why you asked for a lie detector test.

KRISTIN: Right.

MICHAEL: Exactly.

And, you know, we have administered that test and we have the results.

Would you like to hear the results?

KRISTIN: Yes.

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

Jerome.

(APPLAUSE)

Ms, Winters, you met with a licensed polygraph examiner.

KRISTIN: Mmm-hmm. Yes, Your Honor.

And you were asked the following questions.

"On the day Michael found a man in your bed, did you have sex with him?"

You said, "No."

Yes, Your Honor.

The lie detector determined

you were being truthful.

Told you. (LAUGHS)

Ms. Winters, you were asked,

"Have you had sexual intercourse with anyone

"other than Michael since the end of 2013?"

You said, "No."

The lie detector determined

you were being deceptive.

(AUDIENCE GASPS)

(LAUGHTER)

Now that's not true. (NERVOUS CHUCKLE)

You were asked, "Are you currently hiding

"a sexual or romantic relationship with another man from Michael?"

You said, "No."

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: The lie detector determined you were being

deceptive.

(AUDIENCE GASPS)

What?

(SCOFFS)

Mr. Cawley, how does it feel to hear those results?

Some of the stuff I had a gut feeling about that she was lying about.

But I was in denial, but I'm really not too surprised for real.

Ms. Winters, it said you were being deceptive on more than one occasion.

Is there something you'd like to say?

In the beginning of 2014, I did, you know...

It did prolong a little after than I said it did,

but that was the only thing that I can really think that I lied about. The whole...

JUDGE LAKE: Well, that's...

Lying about somebody now is a little different.

What's a little different?

Because, like I said, then, we were having problems. Now, we're not. So...

But point blank period, we made

an agreement at that point.

Yeah, well, you also cheated on me four months ago. So that agreement

kind of went out the window. So...

The bottom line is, after the "agreement,"

you were still sleeping with somebody else.

KRISTIN: Right. And I did it because I...

I know he was, too, because I saw him...

You know, he was writing girls on Facebook, trying to find new friends.

I mean, it just didn't feel real at the time, so...

All right, so you've admitted to that...

KRISTIN: Yeah.

...and that's what the lie detector indicator.

It also indicated that there's some romantic relationship you're hiding.

Honest to God truth,

since the beginning of 2014, especially since I got pregnant,

I haven't even conversated with a guy

that I shouldn't even have been talking to.

And so after you hear these results, Mr. Cawley,

does that further fuel your doubt?

I mean, at this point, you know she was found to be deceptive

on more than one occasion during the lie detector test.

I think my main thing is if Amoni is mine or not, because I wanna...

I don't wanna be there for a kid that's not mine.

But as far as her lying on the lie detector test,

I'm really not sure about this relationship.

So, you're saying just the lie detector result,

you're concerned that the relationship won't be able to last.

Yeah, because that was still before she was pregnant with Amoni.

KRISTIN: We should have broke up four months ago, then.

MICHAEL: That's true, we should have been broke up then.

Yeah, we should've probably been broke up.

Because you're saying, Ms. Winters,

"Well, then we should have broken up before he cheated again."

Right, because I feel like he did it because of what I did in the past.

So, he felt like I was going to get over it

and he felt like he had one on me, you know what I mean?

Maybe the only reason she forgave me

was because of all the stuff she did before that.

Oh, Lord, you all tit for tat!

WOMAN: Serious!

Goodness!

It's just the worst cycle. It just keeps going.

Right. That's why sometimes I tell him, like,

I feel we should have been broke up, like, we are too damaged,

but for some reason, I don't know if it's 'cause we love each other

or we just have so much history and it's been so long,

so we just stay together. (CHUCKLES)

I feel, at this point, I've sacrificed so much

and I've always had a hard time with quitting anything.

And that's a lot of the reason why I stayed.

'Cause like I said, it's been six years now.

So, in that six years of my life, I could've been...

I probably would've been already doing what I love to do by now.

Well, listen, when you invest so much time in a person,

you just feel like, "My pay-off is happiness.

"I'm going to get to it by hook or by crook, and I'm gonna stay.

"I don't care what happens, because I want that.

"I've invested a lot of time."

That's why I came here, to prove to him that Amoni is his son,

so that we can get past all this, and we gotta, you know...

And that's another reason why I'm still attached to this,

because of the kids.

It's because of the other kids.

Because their fathers aren't really around at all.

And I'm more of a father to them than they've ever known.

They look to you as one of their major father figures,

even if they know you're not their biological father.

KRISTIN: Right. When we break up or he leaves or something,

they'll ask me, "Where's Michael?"

JUDGE LAKE: So, Ms. Winters, I have to ask you this.

If Amoni is not Mr. Cawley's biological child,

you're worried that pretty much all three of your children

will be without a father.

I mean, that would be the case, but he is his son. So...

Mr. Cawley, are you that certain?

I'm hopeful, but I don't know. I'd be hurt but...

You just seem so defeated in this relationship.

Because I've been through so much just trying to keep it together.

I felt like... She said we should have been broke up.

But I also feel like I've been the main reason we still together to this day.

She's so quick to push me away and try to mess it up.

But I'm looking at the kids.

I even told her a lot of times, "You need to look at your kids."

JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Winters...

I mean... I'm a straight shooter, though.

You do seem kind of nonchalant, like, you can take it or leave it.

KRISTIN: I mean, I'm...

Maybe I don't show my emotion like I should,

but at the end of the day, I do think of my children, you know what I mean?

Whenever we go back and forth and we're arguing all the time,

that's not healthy for them either.

Like, I'd rather them have no father than be around me and him arguing all the time.

Look, we all grow in relationships.

Sometimes we grow together, sometimes we grow apart.

And I think that's what we have to determine here.

Whether you all are going to continue to try to grow together,

or if you're going to have to grow apart.

Right.

And most importantly, how we handle the child that could potentially be

in the middle of this, Amoni.

KRISTIN: Right.

I have the paternity results for you. Are you ready for them?

KRISTIN: Yes.

Yes.

JUDGE LAKE: Jerome.

JEROME: There you go. You're welcome.

JUDGE LAKE: Thank you.

These results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows.

In the case of Winters v. Cawley,

when it comes to 16-month-old Amoni Cawley,

it has been determined by this court...

Mr. Cawley,

you are the father.

So, that right there should prove to him I wasn't cheating,

you know, around the time. (CHUCKLES)

Well, it doesn't really prove that, Ms. Winters.

(LAUGHTER)

But it does prove that Amoni is his biological child,

and it relieves the doubt.

Right.

The arguing, the not knowing,

we have to get this together, what you guys are doing right now.

Now do you all want to try to work on this relationship

now that we have these results?

I want to try and give it a shot.

Do you want to give it a shot, Ms. Winters?

Yes, but all I know is that... You know what I mean, we've already talked about...

If anything happens again between either one of us,

then we're just gonna go our separate ways.

JUDGE LAKE: Well, look, this is why we have counseling here

for our families.

Because sometimes you wanna do something, but you really don't know how.

You all don't have the basics.

We need to work on the fundamentals. Respect, communication,

honesty, commitment.

KRISTIN: Trust.

Trust. Very good.

And we have counseling and resources for you,

and I want you to take advantage of that and start figuring that out.

There are three children in this family.

MICHAEL: Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: It's important that you fix this, you understand?

KRISTIN: Yes, Your Honor.

Yes, Your Honor.

I wish you all the very best of luck. Court is adjourned.

KRISTIN: Thank you.

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