Practice English Speaking&Listening with: VAN BOOM: Why Are Vans Trending & Is Van Life The New American Dream?

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- I bought my first van in the summer of 2013

because I was sick of wasting money on hotel rooms.

In addition to being a film maker, I'm also an author.

I've written several books and I used to go on

book tours all the time,

which basically means that I would spend

between 150 and 200 days a year travelling.

And it also means that I used to spend between 15,000

and $20,000 on hotel stays.

Now the worst part about it was that

I didn't really even get to enjoy these hotel rooms,

I barely set foot in them actually.

Typically how it would go is I would go to a town or a city

and I would teach a class, I would do a book signing,

and at the very end of the night

I'd go back to the hotel room and I would just literally

throw my bones on the bed and go to sleep.

Six hours later, I'd wake up, I'd get in the car

and go to the next location.

So this expense sucked, it was 100% unnecessary,

and the rational part of my brain told me

that something had to change.

Prior to purchasing a Sprinter van

I did quite a bit of deliberating

about which vehicle would be best for me.

I needed a car that was both volumous,

I needed a lot of room for books and heavy film equipment,

but I also needed fuel economy.

I needed a car that I could crisscross

the entire United States in

and I wouldn't just get pillaged at the gas pump.

Initially I had my eye set on a VW Eurovan,

but after perusing countless auto listings

I quickly learned that a 20 year old beat up microbus

with over 200,000 miles on it,

sells for between 20 and 25 grand.

This seemed like a ridiculous amount to pay for an old van

that could fall apart at any moment.

So I kept looking.

I looked into other options as well,

such as trucks and campers, pull-behind trailers and RVs,

but was ultimately deterred by high mileage,

low fuel economy, lack of reliability,

and/or hefty price tags.

Then during a work trip to Europe

I discovered the Sprinter van and boy was it glorious.

There was nothing embarrassing or shameful

about this van whatsoever.

It was spacious, it was practical,

and yet it was somehow classy, and I instantly wanted one.

So when I returned home from my overseas trip,

I googled Sprinter van, and I went down

to my local Mercedes dealership and I bought one.

I remember feeling extremely nervous

because I'd never bought a new vehicle before,

let alone one with a $40,000 price tag,

but again the money that I was shucking out on hotel stays

helped justify the purchase.

I have owned my van for five years

and I'm proud to report that I've never had

one ounce of regret, there's been no buyer's remorse.

Out of all the different vehicles that I've owned

in the past, this van is by far my favorite vehicle,

and I absolutely love it.

I like to compare my van to the transition

from a T9 cell phone to a cell phone with a full keyboard.

So if you recall, back in the day we used to have

those brick Nokia phones,

and on those phones you had to hit each button three times

to get a desired letter.

So texting was a pain in the butt.

And then we all got phones with full keyboards

which means that we could now write texts much quicker,

it was much more convenient,

(imitates explosion) our minds were blown,

and it was evident that we're never going back

to the old ways.

It just seems archaic now to do that, right?

Same thing with a van.

When you experience first hand what it's like

to be able to freely move around in your vehicle,

to get up from the driver's seat and then go into the back

maybe when it's raining or snowing outside,

and yet you're comfortable, you're standing upright,

you're warm and cozy.

This is an incredible feeling

and you just can't replicate it in other vehicles.

So once you experience the comfort and the convenience

of a van, you can't go back to a sedan or a station wagon,

it's just not happening.

It goes without saying that paying for hotel rooms

is now a thing of the past for me.

Now when I travel I stay in my vehicle,

and in doing this I save heaps of dough,

and I'm way more comfortable because I get to sleep

in my own bed, surrounded by my own smells every night.

In addition to being great work vehicles,

vans are also fantastic for leisure.

Whether you're going adventuring with your buddies

or visiting relatives in another town,

traveling by way of van allows you to be more spontaneous,

more flexible, self-reliant, and free.

Presently I don't live in my van full-time,

I use it more like a weekender.

So my girlfriend has a house, I live there.

And then whenever we want to go adventuring,

we fill up the van, and we go.

Whether that be for a weekend, or a week or a month,

this works really well for us.

And so we like to think about it kind of like

in spaceship terms, where the house in the mothership,

and the van is the rocket,

and every so often the van has to resupply like rockets do,

and then we fly off somewhere else and go exploring,

go have fun, go to work, whatever.

During the first couple years of van ownership,

one thing that I remember very distinctly

is that people used to stop me on the street,

random strangers would stop me on the street

and they'd ask me a plethora of different questions.

They would ask me things like, what kind of van is that?

Do you like your van?

What kind of gas mileage do you get?

Where do you get it?

How much was it?

Et cetera, et cetera.

And then one day all the questions stopped

and people just stopped coming up to me, period.

And it was kind of strange 'cause it happened consistently

and then, boom, nothing.

After pondering on this for a while,

I figured that the shift had to do with the fact

that there are more vans on the road.

While vans and van life have been around

since the early '60s, we are currently seeing

one of the biggest van booms in history right now.

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If you look at commercial van sales in America alone

since about 2016, you'll notice that Ford Transits,

they're the leaders in the U.S.,

they sell about 14,000 vans a month.

Chevy Express sells 6,000 vans a month.

Ford E-Series, 5.8.

Dodge Promaster is next at 3.3 thousand.

Mercedes-Benz is close behind at 3,000.

And the Nissan NV series sells about

1.7 thousand vans per month.

So that's roughly 33,000 vans per month total.

And 405,000 vans per year in the U.S. alone.

I'm no expert, but 405,000 new vans on the road per year

seems like a lot of vans.

Maybe that's why it feels like vans are everywhere

these days, 'cause they literally are.

Globally vans appear to be trending as well.

In the first half of 2017, Mercedes-Benz reported

that it sold nearly 200,000 vans,

mainly Sprinters and Metrises worldwide.

This marked the fifth year in a row that their van division

experienced significant growth,

and according to expert projections

this trend will only continue to increase.

In addition to these sales figures,

today there's way more resources about vans,

and van life than ever before.

There are literally countless blogs, and websites,

and social media accounts and YouTube videos about vans

and so people have a lot more ways

that they can learn about van life,

which means they no longer have to stop random strangers

on the street like myself,

and get information directly from them.

So what is this all about?

Why are vans booming?

Clearly there's a need out there

that these vehicles are meeting,

and yet the answer to this is anybody's guess.

In fact, even Mercedes-Benz has no idea.

And I know this because they actually sent me an e-mail

where they said, Sergei, why is it that you think

vans are booming?

So when they're asking somebody like myself,

I can only assume that they have questions

as to why this is happening and what's going on.

Major publications such as the New Yorker, Time, and Vice

have their own speculations.

In one way or another they all claim that vans are trending

because van life is the new American dream.

This intrigues me for several reasons.

Number one, it's a big bold statement,

that I automatically want to challenge.

And number two, it very well might be true.

Is van life really the next American dream?

If so then why?

Are people moving into vans because they can no longer

afford to live in traditional houses?

Or are they simply shifting their values

because they're finding that alternative lifestyles

make them more fulfilled and happy?

Maybe that's what's going on.

If this is the case, does van living

actually make people more happy and fulfilled?

Is this a sustainable lifestyle?

I want to know if van life is a trend that will someday pass

and we'll think, oh my God,

I can't believe we ever thought this was cool.

Or perhaps this is a viable lifestyle that's here to stay.

I've decided to act on this curiosity and make a movie

that investigates this van boom.

This summer I'm gonna jump into my Sprinter van

and I'm gonna go wherever the wind blows me

to try and interview as many different people as I can

that are in some way, shape or form, tied to vans.

I want to sit down with as many different demographics

as I can, this being young couples, seasoned vanners,

solo travelers, nomadic families,

companies that manufacture vans and van products

and anyone else that's willing to talk to me,

and I want to get down to the bottom of

why vans are so popular.

I have no clue whatsoever if this is a good idea,

if this movie will be interesting,

but I have this genuine curiosity, and I'm going for it.

- Okay, so I suppose you want a van tour.

Let's check it out.

All right, this is our cozy little Sprinter van.

This is our bed, it's a twin, so we snuggle.

Underneath we have storage for our camping stove,

extra camping gear, clothes.

And then up top we have cargo nets,

which we can store our curtains, our window shades,

or more clothes.

We also have some little utility racks

and cute hangers, as well as some sparkle lights.

Let's go around back and I'll show you some more.

So in the back here we have our kettle bells.

This is how we work out when we're on the road.

And they also provide extra weight and traction for the van.

So this is another view of the van from the back.

As you can see, it's super simple.

We don't live in the van, we take it for weekend trips

so this simple setup works really great for us.

Okay, on the back of the van we have a ladder,

it's made by Prime Design.

And it gets us to the top, let's go.

Here we have a little deck made of plastic pallets.

It's perfect for stargazing, taking naps,

or having picnics, and extra storage if needed.

Also on the roof we have a Road Shower.

It's exactly what it sounds like, it's a shower for the road

and it gives us the opportunity to clean off after surfing

or being in the lake, or clean the car.

Whatever we desire.

So everything I just showed you on top of the roof

is attached to the roof via our roof rack.

The AluRack by Prime Design.

The last thing I want to show you is our VertiRack.

It allows us to store our paddle boards

on the outside of the van,

which frees up space inside of the van for us.

So that's our van in a nutshell.

- So today is June 2nd.

We're officially kicking off the production of Van Boom

and we start filming today.

And we're heading from Tacoma, Washington up to Bellingham

to take part in a van life festival.

This festival is hosted by Freedom Vans.

They're an outfitter that customizes Sprinter vans,

and Ford vans, every other kind of van.

And so we're gonna go meet some cool people,

see some cool vans, and hopefully gather some interviews.

- Okay.

What do I think we're gonna learn

while making this documentary?

I hope to learn the real truth about van life


on Instagram and social media,

it just looks so gosh darn fun.

And I want to know if it's really that amazing

and how much you have to make to afford that kind of life.

And what kind of jobs you can have to live that kind of life

'cause it seems like an expensive lifestyle.

And to have an expensive lifestyle you need a job

but if you're living out of your van

you can't always have a traditional job.

I don't think I want to live in a van myself.

Though maybe someday it would be a possibility, but

I think it's interesting to know all of this

because there's a lot of people out there

who are considering it and a lot of people

who are considering buying a van over buying a house.

I just bought a house, so

I'm gonna live in the house and not the van,

but maybe other people will choose the other way around.

I'm just a little confused sometimes

because a lot of people when they go into living in a van

they say it's because they can't afford

to buy a house or live in a house.

When you buy a van it costs,

if you buy a new van it costs roughly like $40,000, Sergei?

- Yep. - Yeah.

Okay, and then if you want a really nice build,

like something comfortable where you have a kitchen

and you can actually live in it,

that's at least another 60 grand.

I would think.

Probably more, but, so you're up to a hundred grand

in this van.

I live in an area that is appreciating

so if I decide to sell the house in five years

I will make money off of living in my home.

If you have a van they just break down, you put on miles,

so there's no way that you're gonna make money

off of your van, you're only gonna lose money in the end.

So I don't see the benefit.

Or I don't see how people say it's cheaper

than buying your own home.

Hopefully through this documentary

we'll get to the bottom of that

and people can explain why it's cheaper than owning a home.

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- [Sergei] Who says you can't have a lot of shoes

if you live in a van?

- My name's Tom, I run a company with my partner Kyleigh

called Freedom Vans.

And we are all about giving people

chances to live off the grid, sidestep mortgage if you want.

You can live out of your van, have solar power,

have all your amenities, comfortable living space,

all in a tiny little space on wheels.

Vans are popular and gaining popularity because

they take the automotive industry and basically combine

all of the genres into one space

that performs as well as each of them,

and actually outperforms a lot of them.

They're people carriers, they're efficient on fuel,

they can load a lot of job materials, heavy equipment.

They can get from A to B comfortably.

They do it all.

I got inspired for the van life movement

because of housing crisis.

I'm a dog owner, but I'm not a wealthy homeowner

at the same time, and so when I tried to move from one lease

to find a new place I couldn't get anything.

Nobody would sign me up.

You have a dog, you can't rent here.

And then I had a van that I used to travel

for mountain bike racing and I started feeling like

I wasn't gonna have a catch net to land in

when my lease ended,

and I was like, I'm not gonna be homeless.

So I took matters into my own hands

and I built myself a weekender.

I built a little Ford Econoline from the mid '90s

that was an old conversion van.

I gutted it and I put a desk in there

that I used for a counter.

I built a power system and stuffed a fridge

and cut in a sink and glued a microwave to the desk.

It didn't know how to do pumps,

but I found a pond pump and it worked,

so that was kind of how it all started for me.

And I just felt so liberated

when I figured out I could comfortably

live for a month out of a van.

For one whole month I didn't have a house.

So then I realized van life was sweet.

It was 100% liberating, I felt no longer like I was trapped

by expensive real estate that I couldn't afford.

I felt like,

for a low investment I could get

a comfortable space and that's sort of

stair-stepped me up to

doing that same thing for other people now.

A lot of the things that we do build

are for people who are going on weekenders,

they're a weekend warrior,

they want to go traveling, get out of town.

Stress relief, vacation and stuff.

That's important and it matters a lot to everybody,

so you need to be able to do that.

But then there's also the people like traveling nurses

who are going somewhere for seven weeks at a time.

They've got a traveling stipend

and they're getting paid for housing.

My first full-time client-based freedom van was Dana.

She has her van named Amelia.

She lives out of it in California.

And that is a good example of

a new way of thinking about

how you can approach your living space.

She pays about 700 bucks a month

is her van plus conversion payment.

It was all worked in on the same purchase.

So her van purchase and her conversion were lumped into one

and the cost is about 700 a month.

She owns it via the bank, but in an area where

a one bedroom apartment is $2,200.

The San Francisco Bay area is 2,300 to 2,600

for a one bedroom apartment.

So her one bedroom van in the spaces she was traveling in

is 700 a month, and that's a pretty good system

when you look at the numbers.

- I think that economically it makes sense

and there's a lot of people turning to van life

for that reason, but the motivator is more that

our millennials are all coming of age to buy things.

And they're seeing all these vans

and these epic photos on Instagram

and they see that and then they want to live it.

- [Sergei] The pictures you see of people

living on Instagram and they're just like always having

just a joyous time, everything's perfect--

- Yeah.

- [Sergei] How does van life on social media

differ from real van life?

- Yeah, I think that social media just gives you a glimpse

of what van life is.

Yes, you're in all of these beautiful places

and you're having all these experiences,

but I think what I miss the most

was experiencing them with other people.

And that's definitely becoming easier

as more people are into van life

and more people are traveling with their friends.

But when we were on the road, our friends were more grounded

and couldn't necessarily travel everywhere with us.

So I missed just having

people that I saw all the time.

And that community feeling.

So it's nice to see people who are doing van life

are building those communities,

but again, that's just a glimpse on social media.

I'm not sure how that actually translates into real life.

It didn't translate for me.

- [Kiley] And what about the aspect of social media

that's like everyone posts their like beautiful photos

and it just looks like so idealistic.

Is it really like that, like?

- Yeah, so these beautiful photos,

honestly van life brought me to the most beautiful places

and sometimes I think back on my own photos like,

I just need that right now.

And I'm really fortunate to live in a place

that has all these beautiful lakes and trees

and I think that's why we ended up here

after traveling to so many places

to see where we really wanted to be.

Yeah, I just think back on some of these photos that I took

and how much I enjoyed those days.

And those little glimpses, there's so much to those days

that are actually not portrayed in the photos.

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- So this is the Noggin van crib.

It's a 1995 Dodge old Transit vehicle, we call her Rammie.

We designed the bed, the kitchen.

Everything so it would be extremely useful and beneficial

to our kind of lifestyle that we thought we'd be living.

And then in this back unit here,

we've designed this huge kind of box which is mainly storage

but you can also have a person or two sleep on this.

This unit pops out, and the cool thing about this is,

her and I could both work on our laptops all day.

We have little cushions that you could sit

on the wheel wells and so we built out

these wood little things, and then we have cushions,

and then you could sit here and work for eight hours.

So it was extremely useful for both of us to work and live.

We both kind of had our own spaces when we needed,

which was great, which was kind of like having a house

or a separate room.

Or you'd go to a coffee place

or hop out of the van for a little bit.

- [Sergei] What is the cost to van life?

Everybody talks about how much cheaper it is

than house life.

Did you do actual any calculations?

- Oh yeah, oh yeah.

- [Sergei] So what does van life cost?

- So van life for us, like so we had an apartment

here in Bellingham at Darby.

It was $1000 a month, then you have internet and utilities

and so it was about 13, 14 a month.

And that was about two years ago.

So we hopped in the van.

We were spending, with all of our bills together,

and everything in our relationship,

about three grand a month, so we had a lot of bills.

We had student debts and credit cards

and starting the business, and all this expense.

We hopped in the van and we were able to immediately

get down to like 1500.

And then we started looking at our food expenses in LA.

Well I have a problem with sushi and really,

I love Thai food and so we were going out to eat a lot.

And we're like, okay can really cut this down even more.

Then we started cooking every day.

Then we started getting into the more of the vegan lifestyle

and food, you know, fruits and vegetables and raw organic

kind of cooking, and that really saved a lot of money.

And so then we were down to like a thousand bucks a month,

even like 800 a month if you don't drive a whole lot.

- [Sergei] Sweet, so if I understand you correctly,

you went from roughly $3,000 a month,

- Yeah.

- [Sergei] To instantly 1500,

and then were able to go down--

- To about a thousand, 800.

And that was with a lot of travel

and not being cheap on organics and buying--

- [Sergei] That's a huge saving.

- Proteins and stuff like that, so.

- [Sergei] 'Cause I've seen some of these people on YouTube,

like, oh van life's so cheap but now my coffee bill

'cause I hang out at coffee shops has skyrocketed, so.

- I had already been doing that,

so that was already included in my costs.

In Bellingham, I was going to (laughs)

four to eight coffee meetings a day,

and that really adds up.

So what I would do in business meetings

is I would take my Starbucks receipt,

or Woods Coffee in Bellingham,

and I would take it to different meetings and say,

"Hey, I bought one 30 minutes ago."

"I'm here every day, you guys see me."

So they got to know me,

but I would try and save a lot of money doing that,

but LA, we would go to libraries, parks,

beaches, you know, a lot of free Wi-Fi.

Near malls, schools, lot of things like that.

Housing apartments.

So we'd just bounce around like that

and not try and go into coffee shops.

- My name is Chris Paige Owens.

Most people call me Ma, from vanning at least.

I live in Puyallup, Washington,

I've been vanning since 1978.

Traveled all over the United States

and even into England with vanning.

- [Sergei] So what does vanning mean to you

'cause you're like, you're, us young people,

we'd say you're the original gangster, the OG.

What does vanning mean to you?

- It's family.

It's friends.

It's life.

You look around, you see the vans.

Young people are coming back into it.

There's a lot of us old people, I mean, I'm 71 years old.

So, grandma and great grandma.

But it's fun.

- [Sergei] Why did you get into vanning originally,

in the '70s?

- Somebody stopped us on the road and says,

"Hey, there's a van club meeting at Shakey's

"at seven o'clock on Thursday night."

So we went, and been vanning ever since.

- [Sergei] Seems like vans are becoming

more and more popular.

Would you say that was true?

- I would say that.

A lot of these Sprinter vans,

the vans are becoming more popular.

A lot of people are living in them because they can't afford

the houses, you know, and they're getting off the grid.

Or just traveling, I mean, do it when you're young

because when you get older they call it the golden years,

that doesn't mean it is.

I'm still waiting to see the gold.

- [Sergei] And so can you give us a tip or two

of something you wish you would have known

at the very beginning that would have maybe saved you

a little bit of headache?

- We bought a brand new van, Ford van in 1976.

So what would I do different?

I would have gone in 1976 to some van runs and found out,

like here, what they look like inside

and what to do with the inside,

'cause ours was a blank screen type thing.

And we put interior in it on our own

and then we went to van events in '78

and found out, oh we should have done this,

or we should have done that.

The best thing to do is go with a blank screen

and see what to do.

That's the easiest way to find out.

Make it yours, but you can pick up ideas here or there.

- [Sergei] Thank you so much, Ma.

- Yes.

- So the van rally just finished.

That was literally my first ever van event.

And I have to say,

I'm blown away by how genuine people were,

how excited they were.

I realized at the event that even though

I'm in the van realm on YouTube, and I make van videos,

doing stuff on the internet by yourself puts you in a vacuum

and you never really get to be part of the community

if you only do that.

For anything, whether that be vans

or surfboarding or skateboarding or whatever,

I don't think you can really be part of the community

unless you go out and meet people that do the same thing,

and actually shake their hand

and look inside their vans.

That's really what makes that connection,

what makes that tight knit.

In this video I really want to get to the bottom

of why vans are trending.

Some would say why they're resurfacing,

because they were a thing in the '70s.

And I keep attributing it to this one thing,

is it an economic reason.

Is it adventure.

What I think I'm gonna learn in this documentary

is that it's all of the above.

The van package is just too good to pass up.

It's a truck, it's an RV, it's a passenger car all in one.

It allows you to be very adventurous, it saves you money.

It's all of the above.

So that's my new hypothesis moving forward.

Next we're heading to the Grand Tetons to do more research

at the Vanlife Diaries meet up.

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Car camping.

This is why Sprinters rock.

We got to a place kind of late.

10:30, 11.

We didn't have to set up any tents.

We just hopped in the back, over there, and we fell asleep.

And then we woke up in the morning

and we didn't have to take down any tents.

We just hopped in the van, which we were already in,

and we're off.

Okay, check it out you guys.

There's the van.

And we're gonna walk right over here.

Dun du-dun, du-dun du-dun, du-dun du-dun

And there's a nice little river.

But when you feel it, it's hot.

It's a hot spring river.

There's the van.

Here's our campsite.

Hot spring river.

So when you're making breakfast in nature

you always want to look around you

because you might just find some wild growing vegetables.

This right here is wild onion.

The easiest way to identify an onion is by the smell.

All onions smell the same, just like a store-bought onion.

And today we're just gonna harvest a few for our meal

and we're only gonna harvest the top.

We're gonna leave the roots intact

so as not to disturb the plant too much.

The seeds and fruits of a plant are natures gift

to the creature, to the animal, to the human.

And so it's okay to take a couple,

throw them in your meal,

and it also makes your meal more nutritious

because they grow in top soil that hasn't been depleted.

Their root systems are longer,

so they're like nature's super food.

Okay, update time.

So Kiley and I are driving in the van,

we're heading to the Vanlife Diaries van festival

in Victor, Idaho.

But I've been texting on the phone

with Dave and Diane from Aluminess this entire time,

and they just agreed to sit down with me

and give me an interview.

So what this means is we have to divert a little bit.

And by a little bit I mean like three to 500 miles

out of our way.

If you're not familiar with Aluminess,

they are a premium company that manufactures

racks and ladders for trucks and vans.

Dave and Diane have been doing this for many many years,

they know all the ins and outs of van life,

and this is an opportunity that I just can't pass up.

So this means that we are probably not gonna be

sleeping much in the next couple days

because we now have to veer north to Coeur d'Alene,

which is a few hundred miles out of our way.

Then we're gonna have to veer south

back to our original destination, which is Victor, Idaho.

But you know what, I don't even care

because this is an incredible opportunity and

I just didn't think I'd get it, whoo!

I'm excited.

- So, you wanted to know a little bit about the van life

and stuff, so I thought I'd take you back to what I think

is kind of at least a decent starting point,

and that is the Volkswagen camper van.

And so that was around for people to actually

go camp in a van way back in the '60s I believe.

I'm not sure exactly the first year.

But a gentleman, Charles and his dad started a company

called Sportsmobile, in I believe Austin, Texas.

They also had a shop in Indiana

and they scaled way up with Volkswagen,

and then West Valley came on the picture,

or was on there as well,

and then they started doing Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and so on.

So that was kind of where the whole van thing originally

was in my mind started, and then in about oh,

'91 or '92 a gentleman Alan Feld,

who actually owns Sportsmobile West,

he had worked for me when he was 20 years old

in a stockroom at a medical device company.

And he went on to do some other things beyond that,

and one was sales, and he ran into a sportsmobile,

which was a van converted to a motor home,

a class B motor home they call them,

and he felt he wanted one.

And he found out he had to go to Texas to get one.

And so he thought it'd be a great idea to do a franchise

or something in California, and Charles,

who was the one who started that, or owned it at the time,

was not interested, didn't want to scale up again,

didn't want anything to do with another business.

Would just like to have his little shop down there

and build four or five a month and that was it.

And so Alan asked me to go with him down there

to talk to him and see if we could talk him into it.

So we grabbed on a plane and went down there

and Charles changed his tone after talking to both of us

and said okay, and gave us a go ahead.

I chose not to do it with Alan mainly because

I didn't want to lose a friend over stuff,

and I'd done a big business for a group

of open heart surgeons that, you know,

I just don't want to get involved in that kind of stuff.

So anyway, over the years Alan basically

started making these vans out of Chevies and Fords,

and then he started looking more at the younger people.

Prior to that it was kind of a retirement van.

People would retire, get one of these,

go see the national parks, stay in a hotel once in a while,

but they had some camp, and you know,

small camping capability but not a big motor home.

So Alan started putting the big tires on,

and hey you can go out in the back country and so on.

And then he got a company called Quigley Motor Company

to convert some to four-wheel drive.

Quigley Motor Company's back in Manchester, Pennsylvania.

And so they started making them four-wheel drives for him,

send him out an empty van four-wheel drive,

he'd convert it to the whole pop top version

like the one you saw out front.

And then after about two years all of a sudden

there was a problem with four-wheel drive,

the front ends were all worn out, they were shaking,

they were causing problems, brakes were squeaking and so on.

And they argued back and forth about the problem,

whose problem it was and who was gonna fix it.

And actually Quigley, Mike Quigley back east,

canceled all the warranties on all the customers,

sent them all a letter.

Alan happened to call me up, 'cause I build the street rods

and said, just tell me how to fix it.

He's really good on the marketing

and customer service and sales and so on,

but I'm kind of the nuts and bolts nut.

And so I went up there and took some apart,

and flew back east, worked with Mike Quigley,

we redesigned the front end and so on.

But one of the issues was, they were putting

these steel bumpers that were mainly used on farms

for pushing combines and stuff around

that weighed three, 400 pounds,

and the guy's doing, you know, 15, 30 miles an hour

kind of thing.

And so they were tearing up the front end

as well as some other issues that we solved.

So I tried to get his suppliers

to make them out of aluminum.

They were quite rude about what type of a

less than intelligent person

would make something out of aluminum.

If you wanted a beer can or Japanese pot metal,

go see Coors or Budweiser.

So next thing you know I'm in my driveway

with a sheet of aluminum and a saw and a welder

and I'm mumbling about those guys

'cause I'm trying to tell them that fighter jets

land at full throttle on a carrier

and that's lightweight material, and it's all about design.

So I made some and took it up and Sportsmobile liked it.

I was retired at the time, so I could do that.

Then I went and found a guy down on the boat docks

that could weld way better than I could,

manipulate aluminum a lot better than I did.

And so I just would buy all the material, take it to him,

all cut out and so on, he'd weld them up,

I'd take them up to Fresno from San Diego,

drop them off and then after that it just grew.

And then I just started adding more items,

nerf bars, rear bumpers, roof racks,

ladders, that kind of thing.

We started building these things actually in the parking lot

of a sports fishing company with one guy,

and then I got 800 square feet, then 1000, then 2000,

then 3000, 5000, 10,000, we're up to 30,000 feet now.

And we bring people on and

teach them how we want to do the product.

We design it for the features and benefits

that we think, or that we get feedback from our customers.

Many of our customers are depicted in these drawings here,

they're pioneers.

They find out a way to break it, or something it doesn't do,

and they get a few arrows in their back,

and so we invite them back in and we replace it or fix it,

or evolve it.

So that's kind of our philosophy is to try and make

the best product out there.

And the reason for the aluminum is one, it's lightweight,

and so it doesn't take up the suspension that you need

when you're going off road.

Whereas if you compress that suspension,

now you're back to zero,

even if you spend a lot of money to improve it.

- [Sergei] Okay, now you're in the hot seat.

Why are vans booming, what's your assessment?

- The new vans, one are much more efficient,

so they can get up in the area of 20 miles per gallon.

They have a lot more room, they have a lot more features.

Whereas the previous vans were really pretty tight.

And when you get two people in those,

there's not much room to get around and so on.

But in the Sprinter van, and the Transit van and stuff,

you can get different lengths,

so you can get a lot more gear in there.

And people are wanting to take

more and more stuff with them.

So it accommodates more of their toys and their pleasures

of kayaks and bicycles and motorcycles

and that kind of thing.

I think that they are more versatile,

they're more economical,

you're going from 10 miles to the gallon to close to 20,

and the longevity.

You know, back early on,

I'm an old guy, vehicles lasted 80, 90,000 miles.

And now, a Mercedes van has got a track record of going

four or 500,000 miles.

So even though they're much more expensive,

the cost for the life is a lot less.

- [Sergei] How 'bout the types of people that you're seeing.

Is it young people, old people, or like a big mix?

Who would you say your average customer is?

- On a personal opinion basis, I would believe that

our customer base is younger now

because the original van market,

I always labeled it as the blue hairs.

These people are retired, and they want to now go out

and see the great old U.S. of A.,

and they got these vans that they would camp in.

They were two-wheel drive, pretty basic,

and it allowed them to go to national parks and things.

Today, it's the youth, the sports-minded

who's taking their mountain bikes and their kayaks

and their surfboards.

Mexico's a great wonderland and I would say,

the big market we had early on

were teachers and fire fighters who had the time off

and could explore further beyond the pavement.

So a lot of people that went to Mexico surfing, fishing,

that kind of thing, a lot of people that went

off-roading and to the desert and so on.

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- [Sergei] Bring the hits.

- [Josiah] There we go.

- [Sergei] You must be from Portland.

- Nah, I'm from San Francisco, I'm not from Portland.

Jesus Christ.

I'm a God damn San, wait wait wait for I'll go in with you,

I'll go with you too, come on, yeah.

Here you go, cheers guys.

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- [Woman] I just wanted to get closer to the fire.

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- My name's Matt Swartz and I'm one half

of The Van Project.

Sort of a social media community blog,

that my girlfriend Amanda and I run.

We drive a 1964 Clark Cortez motor home.

We ended up finding a small RV,

but we still kind of refer to it as a van,

it kind of feels like a van to us.

And we've been on the road for a little over a year now.

Our home is our vehicle, and we're not tied down.

So we can go wherever we want, and we do.

We've been all over the Southwest this winter

and now we're here in Idaho.

- My name is Marcella Garofalo

and this is our little trailer.

- And my name is Taz Darian.

We chose to go with a trailer as opposed to a van

because we have the flexibility of leaving our home

at the campground or wherever we decide to stay

and go explore in our vehicle.

- [Marcella] Living with less you actually live more.

In that you have the freedom to not be tied down

by things and confined in a box, essentially,

dealing with all these possessions.

You really don't need much.

- You don't.

People think bigger is better, more is better,

but in reality traveling full time in our little trailer

has taught us to minimize.

We actually ended up going home briefly

just to get rid of half of our gear

'cause we really didn't need that much.

You just need the simple necessities

to survive, like the basic needs really to be comfortable.

And actually living this way teaches you what you truly need

to be comfortable and, I don't know,

you're working with the elements more.

We don't have running water, we don't have a bathroom

but it kind of teaches you to appreciate

the things that you took for granted

when you did have all those things.

- [Josh] I'm Josh, and we're driving

a 1987 Vanagon Westfalia.

- So I'm Jen, and we've been on the road

for about three weeks, we're planning to

be on the road for many months coming up.

We're going up to Alaska and hopefully

all the way down to Patagonia after that.

- She's an '82 Vanagon Westfalia.

And I got it a couple years ago.

I had wanted one for a long time,

and was just, it was lime green, and that was it.

Saw it, and I was like, yeah that's the one.

- Sprinter was always the best option for us.

We wanted a four-wheel drive,

we wanted the diesel for the gas mileage,

and we wanted standing room height in the van.

- I think most people that do van life,

they really love the idea of sustainability

and being off grid and minimalism.

You can't help but think of all of those things

when you think of a Tesla, right, zero emissions,

it's small, they're also very sleek and minimal.

And I love cars and it's sexy as hell, so how could you not?

Living in a zero emission vehicle

has offset my carbon footprint immensely

and it feels great every day.

Not just driving, but living in it.

- My name is Seven Grey and I am driving a step van.

This is a 1996 Grumman Olson step van.

A lot of people confuse a step van with a box truck.

Box trucks are typically a cab separate front

and that can either be a van front

of a traditional truck front

with a big square rectangular box on the back.

Step vans are more like bread trucks or UPS or FedEx trucks.

The front doors are sliding doors, they slide into pockets.

And also they have steps right on the passenger side,

which is where they get their name.

So there's just a bunch of steps

and I'm sitting on the steps right now.

I had a number of criteria for my vehicle,

and one of those was primarily head room.

I'm nearly six foot six,

and a Sprinter van maxes out at about six foot three,

and I didn't want to walk around

with my head tilting all the time.

So I needed a vehicle that was tall enough for me

and in my price range.

I didn't want to finance it, I wanted to pay cash.

And they're built for industrial use.

Like the engine in this particular vehicle,

a Cummins 5.9, is built for a million miles

because it's an industrial engine.

I bought it with 10,000 miles on it.

That means I've got 990,000 miles of potential use.

- We drive a 2006 Sprinter 3500 Dually.

We got married in November 2016.

But we were living in Denver, had a great life,

everything was awesome, and I think we could

just kind of extrapolate out the next 15 years,

and see what like normal life was gonna be for us,

and it scared us both a little bit

and so we started thinking about trips we could go on,

just like things that we could do to change things up.

Started getting involved in the van life community

through Instagram and then one Saturday afternoon

we just kind of sat down, got out a spreadsheet,

and like actually built out the whole thing.

Like, okay, could we make this work financially on the road,

what would van life look like,

and then exactly 10 days later we bought a van.

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- In 2016 we gave up our house, put everything in storage

and we started traveling in a truck and trailer

because it was a fairly easy transition from a house

to a trailer, it was 300 square feet

and we could convince our 17 year old daughter

that it'd be a good idea.

After traveling for about a year in the truck and trailer

we realized that we were limited as far as where we could go

and what we could see, and we started brainstorming

as to what we wanted to do and how we wanted things to look

and a smaller space was not that big of a transition for us.

And we started looking around and we wanted something that

would accommodate all of us comfortably,

we'd all have our beds, except for the two of us,

and we could stand in.

And was good on gas because our truck and trailer was not.

So we gravitated towards the Sprinter van.

Because of the space and the height.

- Quick tour on the van.

Biggest, I guess struggle, was to figure out

how to put five of us in here.

So one of the big things that we came up with

is kind of a bunk bed system for the boys.

This platform folds out,

allowing Josiah to have a bed down below.

And then we got this bed here that will kind of pull up

into the ceiling, lock in on the walls,

pull up on some straps in the front,

and that's basically Samuel's bed.

So that's how we hold the two boys in there.

This is where the kids travel,

there are seat belts in there.

That was a big concern for a lot of people

that we weren't gonna keep our kids safe.

So seat belts in there, storage throughout the bottom.

This will slide out, allowing Sarah to have

an almost twin kind of bed system.

I guess in the back we have a full size RV

queen bed for both me and Tracy.

It also doubles as kind of our lounge area

when it was movie night.

Or when the kids need to stretch out.

It's Tracy's favorite place to basically

slide some pillows up, kick the doors open in the morning,

I make her a cup of coffee and she takes in the view

wherever we happen to be calling home that day.

Fabbed up this aluminum shelf.

Runs the full length of the van,

allowing each of us to have two bins each for our clothes.

If you can't fit it in the bin it wasn't allowed on the van.

- I'm 67 now,

but in my late teens and early 20s

I spent a lot of time hitchhiking around the country.

Then settled down, but I knew that I wanted to travel again

and hitchhiking it later on was not that great.

So I always wanted to do a van.

So we kind of eventually found a van that we liked,

converted it, spent our maiden voyage about five years ago

going through New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming,

and then back home to northern New York.

And it worked out fairly well.

- [Sergei] Sylvie, what's it like to live with Rich

on the road?

- I would say that 90% of the time,

it's incredibly comfortable,

and I never thought I would be able to say that

because sharing a very small space is very difficult.

But we really are very comfortable with one another,

we listen to one another, we give each other space.

We know how to move around one another, so it's been great.

It really has.

And those little rough moments, we work them out.

- So we were just talking about how and why we're in a van,

and we have no idea.

Like, I really wanted to, I saw stuff on the internet

and I was like, that'd be super rad.

And then I pitched it to her and she was like, nah.

And then like a month later or something, she was like,

actually we should do that.

And so then the next week we went and bought a van

and then started building it, and so.

And never really looked back, we never really questioned it,

it was weird.

- Sit down.

- [Sergei] Julia, what's it like to have two little ones

in the van?

- It's challenging, but--

- Good example right now.

- Yeah.

They're very active, but I think it'll be good

once we can be outside more

and we're in more even temperatures.

- Which may never happen.

- Yeah, may never happen, we'll see.

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- My reason for living small has to do with

environmental initiatives.

I want to reduce my environmental footprint

and I felt that when I was living in the city

I had a hard time conceptualizing how much I was using.

And so van life was a way for me to cut back

on my water use, my electricity, connect with nature.

And play a bigger role in being an environmental steward.

And I think it's definitely done that.

I've been more aware.

I live more intentionally.

And through my social media I try to encourage people

to do the same.

Even small things, even if they're not living in a van.

And next month, July,

I am gonna be part of a 30 day plastic free challenge,

and I'm encouraging the van life community

to be a part of that as well.

And so it's a step in the direction

of trying to make some change,

and I think together as a community if we all change

we can have a really big impact.

- I personally think there's like

a minimalism movement, sort of.

And I think that as that catches on

more people are realizing that stuff

really doesn't make them happy.

And it's like the experiences that you have

that make you happy, at least for us, that I've realized.

And so having not very much stuff

helps you to not be distracted from the things in your life.

And instead focus on the experiences that you can have,

and the memories that you can create.

- Amanda and I were living in San Francisco.

We were both freelancing

and we had been doing a bunch of traveling.

We took a three and a half month trip

to South America together,

and did the whole west coast of the country.

And when we got back to San Francisco

and were living on our freelancer income,

it felt like a tough balance to strike there.

The cost of living was really high.

And just the amount of hustle that needed to happen

to exist there in a comfortable financial state

was just more than we wanted to do.

You know, it was the threshold between

just constantly working versus doing something

that we really loved and having some free time to ourselves,

it felt like the balance was off

much more in the direction of looking for work

and being concerned about that, so.

We love to travel and we had this crazy idea.

Not too crazy, really, but we said,

why don't we look for a van and see how that could work out.

That was pretty much it,

cost of living in San Francisco, man,

it'll make you do some crazy stuff.

- You know, I think exploration is,

as a feature of the human species, is kind of the thing that

is maybe one of the best parts of who we are

and I don't know I think a certain group of people

are tapping into that and not everyone can go to the moon

but damn it you can drive out to the middle of nowhere

in Bears Ears and watch the sunrise over the Colorado River

and have your soul filled.

There's some weird jolt of serotonin and endorphins

that I think feeds some of the better instincts

of our species in it, and so.

I don't know, maybe it's an expression of a good thing

in the species, where, yeah that's about as much as I have.

About as far as I've thought through it.

I try not to over think it.

Just keep going with what feels healthy.

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- Right now, how I make some side money

in order to support myself to some degree is Lyft driving.

And with minimal maintenance

it makes it relatively beneficial,

especially versus gasoline cars.

And that's kind of how I'm trying to get by for now

until hopefully something

extravagant happens.

- I guess we're seasonal van lifers, so we spend the winters

working, and thinking about the summers doing this.

- Yeah.

It's good motivation to get through work.

- So I'm an acupuncturist.

I also have a health navigation-slash-coaching business

called Evolve Personal Wellness.

And I'm always looking for clients who are really looking

to make long-term changes

that they might have struggled with in the past.

- When I was actually an undergrad

I started an education company called Learn Fresh.

It's actually a non-profit and we partnered with the NBA

and made a fun math game for elementary

and middle school students.

So we work across 30 states, about 35,000 students

on a weekly basis, and our whole team is remote.

Not as remote-remote as we are, but we're spread out

across the country, we're a distributed company.

When I had this idea, brought it to my board,

shared it with some other staff members,

and they said, "Well as long as you can still

"get to the place where you need to fly to for work,

"it shouldn't be a problem."

And so I'm really fortunate that I can work

wherever there's Wi-Fi.

I do have to travel a bit for work,

and kind of leave her doing the solo thing with our puppy.

But yeah, that's been really great for us.

- One of the places that I lived for a while

was over in Taiwan, and while I was in Taiwan,

not to be confused with Thailand,

Taiwan has a very very low cost of living.

You can live there, I had an apartment $100 a month,

included a scooter and internet.

But you can live in places like Taipei

for three or $400 a month and then eat out every day.

What's unique about Taiwan is

if you have a bachelor's degree

from Canada or the United States,

you are guaranteed a job teaching English over there,

20 hours a week and you can earn about $30,000 a year.

And then your cost of living,

just a few hundred dollars a month,

you can put $25,000 a year in a bank account.

And my idea was to save up a couple of years

working over there and buy rental properties.

And so if you can get two or three rental properties

you can live easily in a van for 500 to $1000 a month

and you can retire by age 30, 35,

and just travel the world, travel in a van,

and never have to work again.

So that's my advice to people who are fairly young

is to go that route so you don't have to slave away

in a cubicle for your entire life.

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- The biggest non-glamorous part of van life

is sometimes the isolation and, you know,

solitude's a good thing,

but isolation can be a little bit weird.

'Cause sometimes it is just you and your van.

You've got your, I like to call it your,

almost like your disposable relationships,

which might be a cynical way to look at it,

but your friends you make for a few days

and then you're off on the road again.

Sometimes that can be really beautiful

and you make life-long friends,

but sometimes it's very transient.

- I'm really longing for some long-term connections.

And I think this community really offers it.

These gatherings are a great way to make those connections.

But life on the road is about impermanence, and spontaneity,

and that can be a little bit of a struggle at times.

So I like the idea of resting in between travels, and

doing it as often as I can,

but also just really connecting with people

and my surroundings a little bit more.

- While it opens up a lot of opportunities,

you also lose out on a lot of opportunities.

You have to say no to a lot of relationships.

Or have someone be very understanding,

or a lot of the couples you see out here

have a lot of the same wants.

I think for me

what would get me out of it is an opportunity

that I want to say yes to that gets me out of it.

- I think there's several different classifications

of people that are doing the van life.

There's those that are choosing to do that,

and they're very actively engaged in the world around them,

either with employment and income,

the way they dress, the way they take care of themselves,

the way they interact with others.

Those people I think flourish and do very well

walking into Starbucks or into

any retail establishment or going to gatherings.

I think the ones that struggle

are the people that are forced into van life

without a choice who maybe have difficulties

engaging with others and being socially interactive

on a way that's not confrontational.

And I think these people would struggle

whether they're in a van or living in an apartment

or in a house, it doesn't really matter.

It's just that they're forced into a van.

And those particular individuals I think struggle a lot

in the van life world and relating with what we call

sticks and bricks people that judge them.

And maybe they view it as being judged for living in a van

but I think it's probably not, it's due to

differences in attitudes and maybe the social,

I don't know what the word is, the social ability to

relate and be able to communicate effectively with others

and they just are not able to integrate with society,

and the van is irrelevant,

it just happens to be where they're at.

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There's two factors that are lending themselves to van life

and the popularity of van life.

One is the internet and the digital age.

We now have really good information infrastructure

with Wi-Fi hotspots and internet access,

which allows you to have location independence,

ability to work wherever you want.

They've coined a term a few years ago

called the digital nomad.

Now we have all these digital nomads

that are traveling the world,

but some of them want to have a place to put more stuff,

they don't really want to be as minimalist as a backpack.

So they can still live a minimalist lifestyle

and combine that with the digital nomad.

So that's the second factor is minimalism.

- One of the reasons why van life is booming is

that people are just kind of

saying no to this false dichotomy of having to separate

life and earning money from having fun

and enjoying and doing the things that you love, right.

And so more and more and more people

are trying to bring everything together

into one holistic life that is fun and adventurous

and also hopefully works for your financially.

In this day and age so much of what we want to experience is

like out there, far out there,

and then also there's a lot of like digital experiences,

right, and so when you bring those two things together,

like being anchored in a place

is less valuable to our generation.

- I mean, I think a lot of people get into it because

of the financial difference.

Like, compared to renting a house or owning a house,

and it depends where you live,

but can be astronomically more expensive.

If you want to be able to live without the need

to make all that money, it gives you that freedom.

- Or even people like us who really,

this is like how we vacation.

If we didn't have a van and we had to book hotels

and eat out every night, or for every meal,

we wouldn't be able to go the places that we have been

or be away from home for weeks and weeks at a time.

So it's a way for us to be able to see

as much of our country as we can with our budget.

- My take is that alternative lifestyles

are really the thing that people are exploring these days.

And the van life is one alternative lifestyle.

And I think financial reasons is I think an important one

and freedom is an important one.

And just the ability to just go out there and explore

and kind of break loose for a while

is really important to a segment of the population.

And I think it's great, I really do.

I think there's so many ways of living your life.

And the van life is one way.

- I think the biggest thing is just the freedom

to be a creative individual and not feel the pressure

of having to earn this big income to afford a house.

I think that's really appealing to people right now,

and I think especially people our age,

in their 30s, 20s, anyone.

This is independent of age, but people are re-evaluating

what success means, and they're finding

that they can be happy and feel successful with less.

And this is one way to do that.

- [Woman] (mumbles) like broke something.

- Here Heaths.

- Hold my beer. - Hold my beer.

- [Man] Hey y'all, watch this.

- [Man] Whoa, whoa whoa whoa.

- [Woman] Uh-oh.

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- Here's a quick check in after the Vanlife Diaries festival

that we went to in Victor, Idaho.

We had a fantastic time, interviewed a bunch of people,

I collected 23 interviews throughout the weekend,

which was a large sample size of the people there.

And the verdict is, different strokes for different folks.

A lot of people come to van life

for various different reasons,

whether that be financial, or adventure,

and it seems like the driving force for all of them,

a theme that keeps coming out is freedom,

freedom from something.

Freedom from bills, paying for rent.

Or freedom to adventure, some form of freedom.

Another pattern that I noticed in my interviews is that

typically people seem to be doing the van life thing

full-time for about a year and a half.

There are people that just started

and there are people that have certainly done it longer,

but it seemed like a year and a half was kind of the mark

people were hitting before they craved stability.

In my mind, I sort of drew a parallel

between living the van life and traveling,

'cause a lot of times people when they go traveling,

they can keep that going for X amount of time

and then they crave just being back in a stable place.

So a conclusion I came to surrounding that was that

people really do use van life as a way to see the country.

Maybe they get out of college or high school,

they buy a van, and it's just an inexpensive way

to cruise around, see the southern United States,

the northern, check out the Pacific Northwest,

and really get to know this country in depth.

In the wake of the festival Kiley and I have been

talking about it repeatedly that we just want to travel more

and make more time to be out in nature.

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Smells good.

Tetons, Yellowstone.

June, 2018.

Camp grounds are all booked.

And I'd really hate to be in a tent right about now.

This is one of the magic parts of owning a van

because you could get the best of both worlds.

It's like having a cabin on wheels.

You could choose to camp if you want to in a tent,

but when the weather is absolutely awful,

when it's pissing rain and hailing,

you can take shelter in your turtle shell.

- Those buffalo were awesome.

So awesome!

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So far this summer, we've interviewed dozens of van lifers,

people who live in their vans.

We want to go ahead and switch it up a little bit

to get company's perspectives,

so businesses who may be affected by this van life boom.

We want to see if they've seen an increase in sales,

who's buying their products,

and what they make out of all this.

- After a quick stop at home, in Tacoma, Washington,

where we backed up our footage

and made sure that it looked good, woohoo!

We hit the road again to interview some van companies.

We plotted a course south to Fresno, California

to interview Sportsmobile West owner Alan Feld

and his son Jonathan.

Alan is in part responsible for the camper van

as we know it today.

He's seen all the ins and outs of vans

as they've ebbed and flowed throughout the years,

and thus Kiley and I thought he'd have

some valuable insight to share.

- Okay, welcome to Sportsmobile,

and this is how it all started here.

This is a 1965 Volkswagen.

We actually started the company in 1961

converting Volkswagens into little campers.

And then in the mid '60s we actually went from Volkswagens

to Ford, Chevy, and Dodges, and that's what we're doing now

along with the Mercedes Sprinters.

In 1965 in our government's wonderful wisdom

they put a tariff on these vehicles from Germany,

it's called the Chicken Tax.

I guess the Europeans weren't buying chickens from us

in the '60s so in retaliation

we put a tax on utility vehicles.

And the little van got caught up in that.

And I think back in '65 this van was like $1800 brand new.

And they put a $400 tariff on it.

So we sent one of our kits,

camper kits to a company in Germany called Westfalia.

And you guys are too young, but if you remembered

in the older vans the tops all went straight up and down,

those are all Sportsmobiles.

Just like our tops now on the Fords and the Sprinters

go straight up and down, we have a patent on that.

And then Volkswagen tops all tilted.

And they did that to get around our patent.

Started bringing the vans in from Europe

to get around the utility tariff because now they were RVs

they weren't utility vehicles.

So back then we lost all our supply of Volkswagens

and our sales were all through Volkswagen America.

So we lost our, you know, parts coming in,

and our distribution all went away.

So we went to Ford, Chevy, and Dodge,

and we have sold direct since 1965.

So these are all service vans back here.

I mean, that is a really old Dodge right there,

it's a 1980-something probably, maybe early '90s.

And they brought it in to have something repaired,

something replaced, add something, add solar panels.

That one's from Montana, that one's from Colorado.

In 2015 Ford discontinued the Econoline van.

And the Ford Econoline was kind of our claim to fame.

We did a lot of four-wheel drive conversions and everything

and when they discontinued it, we're like oh my gosh,

what are we gonna do.

And luckily Mercedes came out with their four-wheel drive

that same year.

So that kind of saved us,

but people still wanted the Econoline

because of the articulation,

the towing capacity is 10,000 pounds.

So Ford is gonna make what they call their Cutaways

for the next eight to 10 years,

and they're making them for the motor home market,

the ambulance market, and the U-Haul

is one of their biggest customers.

So what we do is we get this Econoline like this

which the good news is it's half price.

The bad news is you get what you pay for.

And there's not a whole lot there.

- [Kiley] And then you guys have to build

the whole back part.

- [Alan] We're building the whole body on the back end.

- [Kiley] Ah.

- So again, if you look this one's got cherry wood,

this one's got the white wood.

This one's got the dark,

and we have all different kinds of colors, and show room.

So we just signed a new deal with a company back east

called Quigley Motors.

Which is this van here, this is a Ford Transit,

which is not made by Ford with the four-wheel drive.

So Quigley is converting these for us

for four-wheel drive now

because some people want the Ford Transit,

they want a gas engine versus a diesel engine.

One of the issues with the diesel engines

is we sell to a lot of people

that like to do international travel.

Well with the ultra-low sulfur American diesel standards,

you can go to Baja now, because there are some gas stations

down there that do have the ultra-low sulfur,

but mainland Mexico doesn't have it.

There's a lot of countries in central and south America

that don't have it.

So a lot of people need a gas engine

to go international travel.

Okay, well this is our classic.

So that one there is four inches narrower on the inside.

This is our one that's fiberglass on the back

that we just built.

And again, we have the same box here, silverware,

this all flips out, flips down.

And this has got the light oak in it, it's got a little

microwave in it.

- [Sergei] Absolutely gorgeous.

(muffled chatter)

- [Woman] How are ya, love?

- Now my wife and I have this one with a pop top

and we sleep up all the time except in two situations.

The first one, if it's really cold outside,

we'll camp like this, but when we go to bed at night

we'll lower the top because now the furnace is heating

half the space and it's way more efficient.

And the other time we sleep down below

is when we're stealth camping.

At the Ahwahnee, the Hilton, the Hyatt and the Marriott,

we don't put the top up, we don't put the awning out,

and I don't barbecue outside.

And nobody knows you're sleeping in it.

- [Kiley] Yeah.

- But like Apple, we sell to a lot of people

from Apple and Google because the cost of living

in the Bay Area is so high.

And they're staying on those campuses in their vehicles.

Get up in the morning and go to work,

I mean, they've got cafeterias there,

they got gyms, they got showers.

We sell to a lot of doctors

that have to be on call, they have to be on the hospital.

In fact, Clovis Community here has hookups.

And they're 50 feet from the front door

but they've got their own bedding.

People aren't slamming doors all the time

and turning lights on.

- Interesting, I didn't even think about that.

- Yeah, a lot of traveling nurses,

a lot of traveling radiologists that travel

and sit on other people's businesses

while they go on vacation or at seminars and stuff.

They're living out of their vans.

Because they have everything with them.

My red van, my wife calls it my man purse.

And every time we go somewhere she goes, let's take the car.

I go, I want to take the van

because I have everything with me.

I don't care if the hotels are booked

because I've got a bed.

I don't care if the restaurants are closed

because I have my own refrigerator, I have my own food.

And the best thing is, we have a portable toilet

and I can actually get from here to San Diego

45 minutes faster 'cause I don't have to stop three times.

I do slow to 55. - Yeah.

- But I don't have to pull over,

every time you pull over it's 15 minutes.

- Van life has grown exponentially.

I don't know if I could put a number on it,

but it's easily doubled, tripled.

I mean, probably more than that.

I don't know if I have really a percentage number

to quantify things, but massive.

I mean, it has just been massive.

And just in our business and nearby businesses,

and people who are involved in selling parts for vans.

I mean, every industry involved with vans

just seems to be blowing up.

There are definitely different reasons for every individual

why they choose the van life.

I think the biggest one is adventure.

They see the possibilities, and a lot of our customers

are into the outdoors.

I get people that ask me all the time,

who is buying these things?

I mean, they see this factory full,

I tell them we're a year and a half, and they're like,

who in the world is buying all these things?

And it's like, everyone that is interested in the outdoors.

Do you like cycling, do you like skiing,

do you like photography, do you like mountain climbing?

Anything that's gonna take you out of the city

and into the outdoors, and I can even go further than that,

I mean people stealth camp in the city,

they'll go tailgating.

They'll use these as just kind of road trip vehicles

to take their buddies to Vegas.

So there's not just like one individual reason

to get in a van, I mean, there's just a multitude.

People use them mobile dog grooming.

There's just a million applications

that a van just fits really nicely into.

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- [Sergei] In August and September we visited more companies

operating within the van realm.

We drove up to DECKED, a business that makes pullout drawers

for trucks and vans.

We went to see VerdiRack, a company that produces

ladders and surf racks for commercial vehicles.

We spoke to Prime Design, a van accessories brand.

And Road Shower, the pioneer of pressurized

outdoor road showers for adventure vehicles.

I even flew out to the east coast

to Manchester, Pennsylvania,

to interview Mike and Todd Quigley

from the Quigley Motor Company about why vans are popping.

Time and again we heard the same things.

Business is up, vans are trending,

social media is propelling the movement forward,

and vans are booming because they offer people

freedom and adventure in a one-size-fits-all package.

Curious to know more about how and why social media

has latched on to #vanlife,

I reached out to several popular internet personas

to get a better grasp on what's going on.

I was particularly curious how real van life

differs from that which you see on Instagram.

- My name's Kristen Bor, I run the outdoor adventure blog


where I share information about the outdoors

and try to help people build the skillset they need

to have a good time outside.

I also write about van life.

I love having the van.

It just makes it so much easier to work from the road

and get my job done and be able to maintain my career

while still having the flexibility to travel.

Van life has obviously exploded over the last few years

but I think people have been doing this for a very long time

but with Instagram and the internet

just more and more people are finding out

that this is a possibility.

And I think also the internet has made it easier for people

to take their careers online and be able to work remotely.

Which makes living in a van full-time more viable for people

because they can actually continue to explore

their career passions while also traveling.

I do think Instagram

has a tendency to romanticize van life.

People are only showing the prettiest pictures.

Of super clean, tidy van,

which is really unrealistic actually.

My van is a mess all the time because

you're living in such a small space.

And I think also it can be tough two people in a van.

So if one person likes it and the other doesn't

that can be hard to reconcile.

And you really have to communicate a lot.

So I think for people who are doing it as a couple

I think they get in to the van and it maybe challenges

their relationship in ways that maybe they didn't expect.

I also think you're making decisions all the time.

What are you gonna eat, where are you gonna camp,

what are you gonna do?

I think constant decision making can be really challenging

for people who are used to just waking up, going to job,

being told what to do.

And then all of a sudden you come to the van

and you have like so many decisions that you have to make.

That can be hard for people.

And I think, you know,

you're not always staying at like a beautiful campsite.

A lot of times you're staying either at a campground

or a Walmart, or on the side of the road,

and it's not necessarily what people show on Instagram,

these beautiful campsites.

There's some of that, but there's also

like not beautiful campsites.

And I think sometimes people have these expectations

about like what van life's gonna be and that every day

is gonna be like the most exciting day of your life,

where there's a lot of mundane also.

You spend a lot of time driving,

you spend a lot of time looking for good campsites,

and so I think that like some people

like the challenges that come with it,

and thrive in those environments, and others don't.

And so when that sort of,

when faced with those challenges, it causes stress,

and that's not the point of being out here.

If you get a van and all you are is stressed,

then that's not really, you know, fun.

- [Sergei] One thing that I just thought of

as you were talking.

So, maybe the part of the Instagram appeal

is this carefree life.

- [Kristen] Mm-hmm.

- [Sergei] And then when you get in a van you realize

well life is still not problem free, you have to find water,

you have to find a place to bunk up for the night.

You got to figure out what the hell

you're gonna do every day.

So would it be fair to say that

you just trade in one set of responsibilities for another.

You don't absolve yourself of responsibility.

- Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah.

I think there's a lot to think about when you're out here.

I mean, we were just in Seattle,

and like there's nowhere to park that feels really

all that comfortable in Seattle, so you're in this cool city

and you want to go explore,

but then where are you gonna park.

So I think there's just always things

that are on the back of your mind when you're traveling.

There are tons of responsibility that come with a van.

I think cleaning a van is easier than cleaning a house

but it's not like you just,

I don't think it's as carefree and,

it doesn't free you from some of the stresses

that you face in daily life.

Yeah, so I don't want to make it seem like

it's all negative.

I love the opportunities that van life

has presented me with, but in terms of just

kind of thinking about some of the challenges

that maybe you don't see on the internet

and that people aren't always talking about,

and maybe what causes some people to quit

like a month or two in that they maybe didn't expect,

I think that's just some of,

some of the causes I think that may

not sit well with people once they're actually out here.

- [Sergei] Is van life here to stay,

or is it a trend that will, is fleeting?

- I think van life's here to stay.

I mean, people have been doing it since like way back when,

when people traveled in VW buses,

and now I think it is more,

it's a more accessible lifestyle to anyone.

You don't have to be a hippie living in a van

to live in a van now, you can have a normal job

and like maintain a career from the road.

And so I think as more and more people realize that like,

hey I can explore my career passions and live in a van,

it's just like it makes you able to think outside the box

a little bit more in terms of the possibilities

for how you can make money and still maintain your freedom

from a normal nine to five job and be able to travel

and work it all together in a nice, convenient way.

I think it's here to stay.

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- In October, as our film production started winding down,

Kiley and I continued reaching out to van people.

We formally interviewed several new folks,

followed up on Skype with friends

that we'd made over the summer,

and repeatedly started up casual conversations

about van life with strangers on the street.

These additional dialogs confirmed

what we had already learned.

The majority of people who come to live in a van

do so because A, the cost of buying or renting a home

is a burden in today's economy,

and B, people have the desire to live adventurous lives

and travel more while also putting a stronger emphasis

on experiences instead of things, i.e., being minimalists.

We also discovered that reasons A and B

are not mutually exclusive.

Meaning that more often than not,

vanners come to van because of both lower living costs,

and the higher likelihood for adventure.

It's also interesting to note that at least one fifth

of the van lifers that we interviewed

in June, July, August, and September,

ended up selling their vans and renting apartments,

remarking that van life wasn't sustainable long-term.

While each party had their own reasons and explanations

for why they stopped van life,

common threads could be observed.

Ex-vanners explained that while living in a van

offered certain benefits,

they ultimately found it to be lonely and craved community,

namely friends and family,

missed their former routines, stability, careers,

and lacked an overall sense of purpose.

In our conversations together, Kiley and I came to agree

that van lifers who tend to thrive on the road full-time

and last past the year and a half mark,

are comprised of people who have

a deep love and appreciation for the outdoors.

Such individuals tend to spend the majority

of their time outside already, with or without a van,

and thus thrive as full-time road warriors

once they acquire a vehicle

that's conducive to their lifestyle.

As for the rest of us,

van life is a fantastic temporary break

from a stuffy desk job, a re-occurring mortgage payment,

and a traditional, sedentary lifestyle.

It's also a great way to experience heaps of adventure

and see our country for a year or two.

However, for most of us, full-time van life

seems to have big voids and is not sustainable indefinitely.

Since June 2nd, 2018,

Kiley and I have traveled over 18,000 miles

while working on this film.

12,000 of those miles were logged

crisscrossing the western United States in our Sprinter van,

and 6,000 miles were covered by airplane and rental car.

Over the span of summer and fall,

we also interviewed 40-plus people in depth about vans

and informally spoke to at least 40 more.

Throughout our conversations we learned that vans

are increasing in popularity for several different reasons.

And the first reason is flexibility.

Vans are a complete utilitarian package.

They are an RV and a truck and a passenger car

smashed into one.

Hence, vans offer their owners complete control

over how they are customized and used.

Do you want to start a mobile acupuncture

or chiropractor business, no problem, you can do that.

Do you have a big family and want to see all 50 states,

easy peasy, and the list goes on and on.

Regardless of what your dream is, if it requires a vehicle,

a van fits that bill.

Secondly, vans are economical.

As the cost of living continues to increase

many people choose to, or are forced to get creative

about how they exist on this earth.

Vans are a viable solution because they enable folks

to maintain a high standard of life

without the homeless stigma.

By skipping a traditional home

and moving into a gas-efficient mini-bus

van dwellers can save thousands of dollars every month.

This in turn takes a lot of the pressure away

from having to bust your hump at a job you hate.

When life costs less, you have to work less,

and when you have to work less,

you have a lot more free time

to do that which makes you happy.

Thirdly, vans offer people freedom.

And freedom, as we all know,

is heavily prized in our culture.

For some people, freedom equals liberation

from bills and the 40 hour work week,

which ties directly into the point that I just made

about vans being economical, but for others,

freedom has more to do with spontaneity and adventure.

And vans are just as good at spontaneity and adventure

as they are at saving money.

When you hit the road in a decked out van,

you never have to book a hotel,

or make a reservation at a restaurant.

You can decide to stay somewhere for an extra day

or leave a day earlier.

And you get to bring the comfort of your home

wherever you go.

A van is like a turtle shell,

providing you with most of your necessities

wherever and whenever you need them,

and if this isn't freedom, I don't know what is.

At the beginning of this project

Kiley and I set out to determine why vans are booming.

I think we were successful in this venture

and determined that vans are trending

for the three reasons that I just discussed:

flexibility, economy, and freedom.

As for whether or not vans are the new American dream,

for me the jury's still out.

Maybe they are, maybe they're not.

What is the American dream anyway?

Is it the white picket fence, is it the husband and wife,

or the 2.5 kid family?

After pondering on this concept for many months,

I've come to realize that the idea of any one thing

being the American dream is preposterous.

There are roughly 300 million people in the U.S. alone,

and each one of those people has their own unique idea

of what their dreams and wants are.

Sure, some people want a more traditional

cookie-cutter lifestyle, but others rebel against this,

and strive for an existence

that's unique to their own values.

And van life is no different.

For some people, exploring the U.S. in a van

seems like an idyllic fun endeavor,

but for others this type of lifestyle probably seems

irresponsible, claustrophobic, and dreadful.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong

with either of these stances.

It's ultimately up to the individual, to you,

to decide which American dream works for you,

and which one doesn't.

For what it's worth I still think vans are awesome

and I have no plans to get rid of my van anytime soon.

And I have tons of new friends

that feel exactly the same way I do.

So there you have it, now you know.

And last thing that I've been asking everybody

is if you had to describe vans and van life in one word,

what would that one word be for you?

You can't think about it too hard, you got to just.

- Yeah, freedom.

- Possibility.

- Sustainable.

- Impactful.

- Extravagant.

- I'd say freedom.

Definitely freedom.

- Interesting.

- Peace, I guess.

- [Sergei] What does van life mean to you?

- Sustainability.

- Roller coaster.

- Life changing.

- So, van life is rewarding.

It's not always easy but for me the exploration

and the opportunity to explore lands and myself is worth it.

- Dogs love it.

- It's natural.

- Enlightening.

- Freedom.

- Freedom.

- I would say either the word is independence, or freedom.

- Freedom.

- If I could describe van life in one word,

it would be fulfilling.

- Unfinished (laughs).

Our van's not finished yet so it's been,

we don't have running water yet,

and we're under-electrified.

- I think that the idea