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Welcome to Fieldsports Britain. Coming up Roy Lupton takes the debate about shooting

foxes with airguns and knocks it on the head. Improve your dog. We are out with a gundog

training expert from Skinners Petfoods. First a lad called Stratts has just passed his deer

management qualification. We see if he can put the theory into practice.

Mark 'Stratts' Stratton is exactly the kind of person it's a pleasure to welcome to our

sport. He is enthusiastic, keen to learn and has a sense of humour. After years' rabbit

shooting and air gunning, he wants to start deerstalking. He seeks advice on the Stalking

Directory forum. Not only do they give him advice, they club together, pay for him to

take his deer management qualification the DCS1 and they even take him out stalking.

This is really good. This is encouraging people to go stalking.

Excellent yes because that is what the guys wanted to do, put something back into stalking

basically and it just snow balled from there. This year I have been out six times. I have

managed to shoot my first fallow and muntjac. I have a lot to owe those guys and the forum

itself.

We are joining this new trend of introducing Stratts to stalking and, thanks to the generosity

of professional stalkers John Button and Alex Hinkins, he is going out after an animal today

in Suffolk. It's also thanks to the generosity of Browning, which is lending him a Browning

X-bolt rifle, ammunition and a Zeiss Duralyt scope. He also has an AimZonic moderator thanks

to importer Alan Rhone, one of a range of AimZonic moderators, which we pick up from

one of Stratt's local gunshops, John Bradshow near Peterborough. Honestly, the number of

people involved in giving Stratts a good time! It's like Jim'll Fix It without the scandal.

What do I normally shoot - .243. I am just on here for the rabbits. I have got a .22

... FAC air as well, but that doesn't seem to get used so much these days. I got a .308

recently, but I haven't had much chance to use that at the moment.

Stratts is using Browning's new green ammunition. Here's Browning's David Stapley to explain

it

Traditionally some forms of non lead ammunition both in shotgun shells and in centre fire

ammunition some people could say that it hasn't had the density or knock down power so the

energy transfer into the animal. With the E tip this special formula of zinc and copper

it is a gilded metal. What we call a gilded metal alloy of zinc and copper and one of

the features of this bullet is that it retains nearly 100% of its density. So it has the

maximum transfer of energy into the animal.

Stratts' target itself is a fine example of Stalking Directory humour.

That one was me pulling it.

You are a despicable man. Terrible, terrible target.

It does make us chuckle every time we look through the scope to be honest.

Happily, Stratts is no bum shot. With the exception of one slightly wandering shot that

Stratts asks you to excuse, the target is showing less than one minute of accuracy,

perfect for deerstalking. Here is his DSC1 target, shot from prone, kneeling and standing

off sticks. He's proud of it.

We joined Stratts for part of his DSC in Thetford Forest. He has to walk around a wood with

his BASC assessors saying whether or not a shot is good. He doesn't know yet that he

will pass, so you can see the stress in his face.

Yes, I think I will be alright. I have done a bit of shooting. Yes I am ok, confident,

quietly confident.

Which has been the tricky bit so far.

The paperwork and the assessments yesterday

The written assessments.

Yes definitely.

What was wrong with that.

Just the nervousness. Like being back at school. The ID's were the tricky ones for me. But

ok, interesting. It has been good.

Most of the questions are straightforward. Will you shoot a deer when there's another

deer behind it? Answer: no. But some of them catch Stratts out, like this one. He spots

the distant deer. It's the one right next to it he can't see.

His assessor is happy too.

He is a good lad, he is a good lad. We have just had the safety walk Charlie and we have

done that in the style of a simulated stalk. Mark has indentified five deer in there. He

errs on the side of caution, but that is no bad thing and he has given me some really

good reasons why he would or wouldn't have shot the deer. We have gone through the questions

and very thorough answers and I am really pleased with him.

Back to our day and we meet Jon Button, who looks after the deer management on thousands

of acres of land in Suffolk, and he loves his job.

There is here fallow, roe, muntjac and we get the occasional red come through, but not

resident here at all. So hopefully we will see one.

Now, we have a little game to play today. So Stratts has got his piece of paper saying

he can stalk deer, but how good is he really? John and I have agreed not to say what species

he is likely to see today.

First up, this deer bounces out of the wood.

What deer is that?

Fallow.

Sure?

John spots that it has a fawn hidden away in the undergrowth next to us, so we walk

slowly past it. Next, we spot this animal

What is that?

Roe doe.

Positive?

I am positive.

Jon reckons it is high-stepping this way to place its feet carefully in between the sharp

stubbles. Later on, Jon shows us some of the heads he has had off his ground, including

this monster he is in the middle of bleaching.

Here are two nice sized ones we have shot from round here, from this ground. Quite good

size. Both thick quite heavy.

Gold?

Sorry? I am not sure ... We have got some interesting ones here from fighting. This

one here is a small one. You can see this hole in the side which isn't a bullet, which

I am pretty sure, possibly from fighting during the rut with an antler into it.

And he survived.

And he survived, yes, but he didn't when he met me.

Back to our stalk and John spots a herd of - what are they Stratts?

There's a pricket in the middle, an ideal cull animal. We stalk carefully up to the

side of the wood. And... well let's pick up the story after the event. Jon and Stratts

are sitting on the back of the vehicle to give us the post mortem.

I felt comfortable. I felt good on the shot and I just pulled the shot and I am pretty

sure, we are all pretty sure that I shot straight underneath it. So I am gutted absolutely gutted.

Far better you are than the deer is.

Yes. It is just one of those things. I am sure if I carry on stalking I am going to

have other moments like this.

At least it was completely missed and not a wounded animal we haven't recovered.

Yes.

So that is one good thing.

... out stalking. Do you think you will come round to that point of view?

Me? Oh yes, that will only take a few minutes. Get a rough night's sleep out of the way tonight

and I will be fine in the morning. It is not going to stop me obviously.

Never mind, mate. We've even seen George Digweed put in a second shot. Not often, but we've

seen it. And all you Stalking Directory lot - when you get Stratts online after you have

seen this - play nicely!

Well we have made loads of films about much more successful stalking and if you want to

watch some of them click on the link that is appearing up there behind me. Now from

one unhappy stalker to the world of human misery. It is David on the Fieldsports Channel

News Stump.

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This is Fieldsports Britain News.

The pilot badger cull in Somerset is proving more scary for the antis than the cullers.

A local man who rides his bicycle to the pub, shouted at a couple of farm dogs that usually

run out to chase him, causing a group of badger-cull protestors hiding in a nearby hedge to scream

in fear. The cull itself is "proceeding to plan" and organisers are "pleased with progress

to date", according to the Government.

Our destruction test Zeiss binoculars have raised a few pounds for charity. After 39

bids the Ebay auction winner paid £360 for the slightly bruised Conquest HD binos. All

the money will be donated to Safari Club International and their work for the world forum on shooting

sports.

Staying with good deeds and generosity here is a shout out to the guys on the stalking

directory forum. Fellow member Brian Murphy of Lanarkshire was desperately in need of

help to find the funds to build a downstairs bedroom and wetroom for his 18 year old daughter

Leigh who has cerebral palsy. Within hours of mentioning it to a fellow stalker, the

lads on the forum had set up an auction to raise the cash. In all £5,000 was raised.

Brian and his family just wanted to say thank you.

Back to the ridiculous stuff.

The Mississippi alligator record was broken not once but twice during the opening weekend

of the season. Beth Trammell of Madison and her team of five broke the previous record

of 697.5 pounds early Saturday morning by reeling in a 723.5 pounder. Her record was

defeated two hours later by Dustin Bockman, another amateur who managed to wrangle in

a 272-pound male, his very first catch.

Antis in California have come up with an ingenious way of banning hunting. The California government

is looking at banning all hunting with lead bullets, arguing that hunters could use lead

alternatives. However, the Federal government has classed lead-alternative bullets as 'armour

piercing' and has banned them. So no bullets - no hunting.

A gang caught poaching peacocks in India face between three and seven years in prison. In

a midnight operation, a Forest Protection Squad arrested three people for poaching seven

peacocks and three peahens at a village in the south of the country.

What do you do if you have an airport, a pest problem and you don't like guns. An airport

in Pennsylvania, USA, has solved the problem by allowing bow hunting on its 2,000-acre

site. If you would like to apply, visit www.FlyPittsburgh.com/archery

A match angler has broken the record for weight of fish caught in a single competition. Lee

Kerry caught 513lb of carp in five hours, filling 13 keep nets at Worcestershire's Cob

House Fisheries. He had to put out so many keep nets, he had trouble finding anywhere

to fish.

And finally, ever wondered what it must be like to be eaten by a bear? Here is some footage

of a black bear in Northern Saskatchewan chewing up a GoPro camera. Thanks to Guy Baxendale

for sending in the link.

You are now up to date with Fieldsports Britain News. Stalking the stories. Fishing for facts.

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Thank you David. Savage hair cut. Now let's see if airguns can do more than part the hair

on foxes heads. It is pellet power and performance.

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Big-bore FAC air rifles are controversial and the ownership complicated. Many people

hate them, especially on the Continent where in countries such as Germany you can't even

shoot a rat with a plinker, but these guns do have a big following in the USA and Netherlands

where you don't need a licence, and the larger calibres are becoming increasingly popular

here in the UK.

There has been a woods-worth of negative press thanks to air gunners shooting larger and

larger game prompting the question: just because you can, does it mean you should? Well today

we're going to try and at least partly address that issue. Will Roy feel confident enough

to shoot a fox with this .30-calibre FX Boss?

Before Roy points the FX at anything with a heart beat we want to make sure there's

no doubt about its accuracy. Then we'll look at its ability to kill animals outright. To

help us through today's experiments we've invited along Phill Price, technical editor

of Airgun World and Airgunner magazines to give us some specialist input and some air.

The whole purpose of today is to see one the accuracy and two if it is an air rifle you

can feasibly use in the field to shoot something and we were thinking along the lines of possibly

a fox. Personally I have got my doubts using FAC air rifles with animals up to the size

of foxes. What are your thoughts on it.It is spectacularly accurate I would say that.

We tested it up to 100 yards. It is probably shooting at about an inch and a quarter. I

have never seen an airgun that accurate. However, you have always got the trajectory to consider,

but it does shoot huge heavy 50 grain pellets, huge amounts of energy and it is accurate.

I think you have just got to be careful how far you go with it.

Would you confidently shoot a fox with an FAC air rifle.

With this I would. Yes, up to about 50 yards. No doubt it would have pretty much the same

terminal affect as a rim fire. I wouldn't want to go any further than that.

Before Roy points the FX at anything with a heart beat, we want to make sure there is

no doubt about its accuracy. Then we will look at its ability to kill animals out right.

We are going to kick off at around 50 yards which is about the maximum range I am happy

to shoot foxes at with a .22 rimfire. We are going to get them both zeroed there. We are

then going to drop the target back a little bit and just see what the drop off is.

At 50 yards the rimfire and the FX have no problem hitting the centre of the target.

At 60 yards, without holdover, it's a different story..

So then we have moved back out to 60 and we have got a hell of a drop off there. So just

within the ten yards we have just got two and a half, three inches of drop, so that

really has fallen away quite a lot. So if we move back up to the rimfire. So first shot

just flipping on the 10 there then at 50 we have dropped about an inch. So if we had a

fox coming up you just bring it up a little bit and aim at the top of his head. Whereas

you have got a lot more margin for error using the .30 calibre air rifle.

Right - time to move onto the fox heads and Phill thinks the FX is going to deliver.

At the right distance I am confident it will penetrate the foxes skull. Clearly we know

the rimfires work. Enough people use them. We have all done it. We know it is an effective

round. I think at short range the Boss is going to give a good run for its money.

We are going to try some with skin on, some with skin off. We are going to be shooting

them all with different calibres. At 50 yards we are going to do the sub 12ft/lb air rifle

at 50 just to show how inefficient a sub 12ft/lb air rifle would be at a fox. Just to show

it is not something we recommend. We are going to shoot the FAC air rifle which is pumping

out at about 77ft/lbs. So hopefully we are going to get a full penetration. If it is

lodged in there we will try and have a delve about and see what we can find. We will start

off with a couple without skin on and then we will leave a couple with skin on as well.

We're going to start with the Webley Raider airgun in .22. The reason for using a sub

12 ft/lb air rifle is to show its weaknesses not its strengths. It's a fantastic tool but

it's not accurate enough or powerful enough to kill a fox and certainly not at 50 yards.

Roy has three shots at the target. One misses the fox head completely but the other two

find the head.

One shot has gone in near the eye. The other looks like it might have bounced off the top

of the skull.

This is quite soft here and it has entered the socket behind the eye, but I am not quite

sure how far it has gone in. So we will open that up and have a look.You can see here I

am not sure whether it has penetrated here or just skimmed the skull. So we will just

take back the first layer of muscle here and we can actually see that the pellet has just

punched a small hole here. Obviously it hasn't gone anywhere else. I will just open that

up and see how far the pellet has gone in. That really has surprised me from a .22. I

am not overly happy as I would not want to shoot a fox with a .22 like that. So I will

just open it up and see where these pellets have tracked to. Here we go, look if we had

shot here on the fox, you can see the pellet has gone in here just tracked along into the

soft tissue bearing in mind that is the weakest part of the foxes skull. Just on the side

of the muzzle here, just in front of the eye socket. All that pellet would have done is

to really upset the fox, blinded it in the right eye,

but it certainly wouldn't have killed it. That fox would have been running around in

a lot of pain and a lot of agony. Again that just confirms I really would not want to shoot

a fox with a sub 12ft/lb air rifle at that sort of range. We will just have a look inside

and see if we can see where the other pellet has gone in here. Where are we, there we go

there is a shard of lead there. Yes, so what the pellet has actually done it has broken

up. It has hit the foxes skull and the pellet is actually split so just a shard of the pellet

has gone into the skull, but not penetrated that deeply. It would have probably just gone

in and upset him a little bit. Although it would have been writhing around again I would

not be confident that that would be an all out kill shot. So that coupled with the inaccuracy

at that sort of range because the pellets are being very affected very heavily by all

the external factors such as wind really just goes to confirm I would not want to shoot

a fox morally or ethically with a sub 1 2ft/lb air rifle.

Time for the FX boss. It does exactly what Phill predicts - the skull has received a

devastating blow and the guys are impressed.

The 77 ft/lb muzzle that is a lot of energy at 50 yards that is still carrying a hell

of a lot of ... I am really impressed just how hard that hit. That is a humane kill.

Without a shadow of doubt. You can't really question that. Huge difference between the

little .22 12ft/lb and you can feel here the rest of the skull is absolutely shattered

from the impact and the energy transferred through the skull. It is broken all the way

across here. So there is no way that fox would be going anywhere.

Finally let's see what the .22 rimfire has to offer. It again does the job efficiently

and there's not much to separate the last two rifles. There are some who wouldn't use

a .22 rimfire on a fox at 50 yards.

So comparibly to the sort of wind channel we got from the air rifle it is pretty much

on a par really.

Roy is convinced that with accurate range finding , he would be happy to shoot a fox

with the FX out to 50 yards.

I still can't summarise from my own perspective quite where it fits in because if you have

got a rimfire you would probably use the rimfire over using this.

But there are people out there who just love airguns, have got a slot on their ticket,

would want one. Who wouldn't want a .30 calibre air gun. It is a tremendous thing, is it better

than a rimfire? No.

But as you say a fantastic piece of engineering and works incredibly well.

If you have any thoughts on FAC air rifles please let us now and we'll read out some

of the clean ones next week and if you want to find out more information about the FX

Boss go to A-S-I.co.uk

Well our pellet, power and performance series has been on the cutting edge of airgunning

and if you want to see more of them click on the link on the screen behind me. Now from

a foxes head to another bunch of mugs. It's Hallo Charlie.

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Here is what the world is up to this week.

Hallo Charlie. I am Ryan and I came out this eveing and saw a rat in my turkey shed. I

got my air rifle and this was the outcome.

Hallo Charlie. Damion here from Surrey. 7 o'clock in the morning I have just landed

a very nice cat fish.

Hallo Charlie. We come from South Africa. We just shot a ... buck. We are busy processing

it in our kitchen and we are going to go hunting pretty soon for some more. Cheers Charlie.

Hallo Charlie. I am Dan and I am Dan and we are currently building a pigeon hide.

Hallo Charlie. This is Joe and Aaron from Kent we have just been out doing a spot of

foxing and this is what we have got.

Hallo Charlie.

Send us your own Hallo Charlie. Film yourself on your mobile phone, just a sentence saying

Hallo Charlie who you are and what you are up to.Then share it or email it via Youtube,

Facebook, Dropbox or Yousendit, Younameit to Charlie@fieldsportschannel.tv.

Now here is the latest from Max Hunt who is heading eastwards towards Kazakhstan through

the Czech Republic.

Hallo this is heaven on earth. I am still in Czech Republic and I had a perfect night.

Me shooting a very nice fallow deer and a gold medal ... The plan now is to go roe deer

hunting and maybe if we are lucky we will get one of those as well.

Gun dogs next. How to make your mutt magnificent with Skinners Petfoods.

Some people blow their dog whistles more than motorists hit the horn in downtown Manhattan.

For top gundog trainer Ricky Moloney, whistling your dogs is a language.

The whistle is an over used tool in the dog owners armoury. What I have got is I have

got a stop whistle which is one long blow, I have got a recall whistle which is a series

of peep, peeps. When I am working the spaniel I have got a turn whistle so when the spaniel

goes so far I give him a little gentle peep, peep, softer peep, peep to turn him and hunt

him back towards me. I only increase volume over distance. If the dog is trained on the

whistle, when I am working a dog close by ... should be more than enough. When I have

got the dog a long way out I increase the volume. If the dog is not listening to that

soft whistle at that distance you can blow as loud as you like he is not going to listen

to you. What I do even before I introduce the whistle is I make sure the dog understands

my verbal commands so when I start introducing the stop whistle the dog already knows sit.

So as the dog sits at the side of me and I say sit the dog has already started to sit

I blow my stop whistle. What I also do as well, w

hen I am training the dog to go back or to go left or to go right I blow a stop whistle

the dog is sat looking at me. So what that stop whistle means if you look at me I am

going to give you a command. That is more positive than throwing a dummy for the dog,

sending the dog for the dummy and stopping it half way. So that stop whistle is actually

positive as the dog know after that stop whistle it will get the command to get the reward

i.e. the dummy.

Ricky Moloney runs Ribblesdale Labradors. This series on gundog training tips is brought

to you by Skinners Petfoods, maker of the Field & Trial range of gundog feeds. Visit

Http://www.skinnerspetfoods.co.uk

So if your dog training needs a full MOT service and oil change, we put all the Skinners training

tips on the Skinners Petfoods Youtube channel and you can click on the screen just up there

to go through to that. From dogs to the wider world of hunting, shooting and fishing on

Youtube it is Hunting Youtube.

This is Hunting YouTube, which aims to show the best hunting, shooting and fishing videos

that YouTube has to offer.

I have always liked Sergio Couto's films and he is getting better and better. My Glorious

12 - Grouse Shooting in Scotlandwhos his first shots on driven grouse in Scotland.

That's not the only bird season getting underway. With the wildfowling, goose and duckshooting

going strong in the UK, here is some good gooseshooting from Sweden via GoPro, with

a glam rock track.

Another season that's opening is the state of Virginia squirrel season, starts 14th September

and runs until the end of January. And there are officially 80,000 squirrel shooters in

Virginia, making it the second most popular shooting sport in the state after the 179,000

who go whitetail buck hunting. Well this is a comedy Virginia squirrel-huntin' video by

two lads who are nearly quite funny when they mean to be and even funnier when they don't.

On to fishing: I have featured him before and I will gladly feature him again - partly

because I got his home country wrong last time. Cillian Farrell does not live in the

USA but in Cork in Ireland, and has done all his life. Here he is with friend Dan Gill

tackling conger on a kayak in Cork Harbour.

Flukemaster has a following in the USA. This is his film about how to catch bass under

a bridge, which applies to lots of fish you can find under bridges. I can think of a few.

Viewer GuyBaxendale has the new iScope from Highland Outdors, which allows you to record

what you see through your riflescope on your iPhone. Here is his film iScoping Scottish

bunnies.

Viewer Jim Powell from New Zealand likes this about quail shooting on North Island. He calls

it 'An interesting bit of filming and dog work' - and the bag is 19 birds.

Finally, it looks a bit vain plugging one of our own shows in Hunting YouTube but here

is Schools Challenge TV which we run for organiser David Florent and he is ever so proud of this

show, all about Abbey Burton, which came out just two days after she won the Universal

Trench world championship in Slovenia. 2016 here she comes.

You can click on any of these films to watch them. If you have a YouTube film you would

like us to pop in to the weekly top eight, send it in via YouTube, or email me the link

charlie@fieldsportschannel.tv

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