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>>> AS YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE

>>> AS YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH THE PRESIDENTS PUSH

AGREES WITH THE PRESIDENTS PUSH TO REOPEN AT LEAST PARTS OF THE

TO REOPEN AT LEAST PARTS OF THE ECONOMY BY EASTER SUNDAY OR

ECONOMY BY EASTER SUNDAY OR EVEN, AS HE PUTS IT, REOPENING

EVEN, AS HE PUTS IT, REOPENING LARGE SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY.

LARGE SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY. FUNNY THING ABOUT THIS VIRUS.

FUNNY THING ABOUT THIS VIRUS. AS WEVE SAID, IT DOESNT

AS WEVE SAID, IT DOESNT RESPECT STATE LINES OR

RESPECT STATE LINES OR CALENDARS.

CALENDARS. HERES WHAT MICROSOFT CO-FOUNDER

HERES WHAT MICROSOFT CO-FOUNDER BILL GATES HAD TO SAY ABOUT

BILL GATES HAD TO SAY ABOUT RELAXING SOCIAL DISTANCING

RELAXING SOCIAL DISTANCING MEASURES IN ORDER TO HELP THE

MEASURES IN ORDER TO HELP THE ECONOMY.

ECONOMY. >> THERE REALLY IS NO MIDDLE

>> THERE REALLY IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

GROUND. AND ITS VERY TOUGH TO SAY TO

AND ITS VERY TOUGH TO SAY TO PEOPLE HEY, KEEP GOING TO

PEOPLE HEY, KEEP GOING TO RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, GO BUY

RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, GO BUY NEW HOUSES, IGNORE THAT PILE OF

NEW HOUSES, IGNORE THAT PILE OF BODIES OVER IN THE CORNER, JUST

BODIES OVER IN THE CORNER, JUST YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO KEEP

YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO KEEP SPENDING BECAUSE THERES SOME --

SPENDING BECAUSE THERES SOME -- MAYBE A POLITICIAN WHO THINKS

MAYBE A POLITICIAN WHO THINKS GDP GROWTH IS WHAT REALLY

GDP GROWTH IS WHAT REALLY COUNTS.

COUNTS. ITS VERY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR

ITS VERY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY TO SUGGEST WE CAN HAVE

SOMEBODY TO SUGGEST WE CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.

THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. >> WERE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE BACK

>> WERE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE BACK WITH US DR. MICHAEL OESTERHOME,

WITH US DR. MICHAEL OESTERHOME, PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE

PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASE

CENTER FOR INFECTIOUS DISEASE RESEARCH AND POLICY AT THE

RESEARCH AND POLICY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. ALSO HAPPENS TO BE CO-AUTHOR OF

ALSO HAPPENS TO BE CO-AUTHOR OF THE RECENT BOOK "DEADLIEST

THE RECENT BOOK "DEADLIEST ENEMY: OUR WAR AGAINST KILLER

ENEMY: OUR WAR AGAINST KILLER GERMS," WHICH HE SOMEHOW KNEW

GERMS," WHICH HE SOMEHOW KNEW HOW TO WRITE BEFORE THIS

HOW TO WRITE BEFORE THIS PANDEMIC ARRIVED.

PANDEMIC ARRIVED. DOC, YOU AND I SPOKE JUST SEEMS

DOC, YOU AND I SPOKE JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

LIKE IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT WAS ST. PATRICKS DAY.

IT WAS ST. PATRICKS DAY. DURING OUR COVERAGE OF SUPER

DURING OUR COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY EDITION 3.

TUESDAY EDITION 3. YOU SAID YOU ESTIMATED WED

YOU SAID YOU ESTIMATED WED STILL BE AT THIS, DEALING WITH

STILL BE AT THIS, DEALING WITH IT BY AUTUMN.

IT BY AUTUMN. HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING, HEARD

HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING, HEARD ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT

ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT PROGNOSTICATION?

PROGNOSTICATION? >> I HAVE NOT.

>> I HAVE NOT. AT THE TIME I MENTIONED TO YOU

AT THE TIME I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT WHILE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN

THAT WHILE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WERE TREATING THIS

WASHINGTON WERE TREATING THIS LIKE A WASHINGTON, D.C.

LIKE A WASHINGTON, D.C. BLIZZARD, A COUPLE OF DAYS AND

BLIZZARD, A COUPLE OF DAYS AND WED BE OUT OF IT.

WED BE OUT OF IT. AND I SAID AT THE TIME THIS WAS

AND I SAID AT THE TIME THIS WAS GOING FBTO BE A CORONAVIRUS

GOING FBTO BE A CORONAVIRUS WINTER, WE WERE JUST IN THE

WINTER, WE WERE JUST IN THE FIRST WEEKS OF THE SEASON,

FIRST WEEKS OF THE SEASON, NOTHING HAS CHANGED AT ALL.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED AT ALL. WHAT HAPPENED IS THE ENORMITY OF

WHAT HAPPENED IS THE ENORMITY OF JUST HOW BIG THE PROBLEM IS NOW

JUST HOW BIG THE PROBLEM IS NOW MAKES PEOPLE REALLY FIND IT

MAKES PEOPLE REALLY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT

DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD GET WORSE.

COULD GET WORSE. BUT ITS GOING TO.

BUT ITS GOING TO. AND IT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE

AND IT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD.

WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD. >> I PROMISE TO NEVER DRAG YOU

>> I PROMISE TO NEVER DRAG YOU INTO POLITICS OR TRY TO CONVERT

INTO POLITICS OR TRY TO CONVERT YOU INTO BEING A POLITICIAN.

YOU INTO BEING A POLITICIAN. BUT COMING OFF WHAT YOU JUST

BUT COMING OFF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WHAT YOU HEAR THE

SAID, WHAT YOU HEAR THE PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT GETTING US

PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT GETTING US OUT AND ABOUT, FILLING THE

OUT AND ABOUT, FILLING THE CHURCHES ON EASTER SUNDAY

CHURCHES ON EASTER SUNDAY MORNING, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO

MORNING, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU?

YOU? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME PUT IT INTO CONTEXT.

PUT IT INTO CONTEXT. IVE BEEN IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH

IVE BEEN IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS.

BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS. IVE SERVED ROLES IN THE LAST

IVE SERVED ROLES IN THE LAST FIVE PRESIDENTIAL

FIVE PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS.

ADMINISTRATIONS. I SERVED TWO DEMOCRATIC

I SERVED TWO DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS, TWO REPUBLICAN

GOVERNORS, TWO REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS, AND ONE INDEPENDENT

GOVERNORS, AND ONE INDEPENDENT GOVERNOR HERE IN MINNESOTA.

GOVERNOR HERE IN MINNESOTA. AND NO ONE CAN TELL YOU MY

AND NO ONE CAN TELL YOU MY PARTISAN POLITICS.

PARTISAN POLITICS. SO PLEASE TAKE THIS COMMENT AS

SO PLEASE TAKE THIS COMMENT AS SUCH.

SUCH. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DONT HAVE A

BUT RIGHT NOW WE DONT HAVE A STRATEGIC NATIONAL PLAN FOR

STRATEGIC NATIONAL PLAN FOR THIS.

THIS. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS FAILED TO

THE ADMINISTRATION HAS FAILED TO DELIVER ANYTHING TO US THAT

DELIVER ANYTHING TO US THAT WOULD GIVE US A ROAD MAP OF

WOULD GIVE US A ROAD MAP OF WHERE WERE AT, WHERE WERE

WHERE WERE AT, WHERE WERE GOING.

GOING. AND WE NEED THAT DESPERATELY

AND WE NEED THAT DESPERATELY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS ANYTIME SOON.

OUT OF THIS ANYTIME SOON. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WEVE

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WEVE LEARNED ABOUT VIRUSES, THEY

LEARNED ABOUT VIRUSES, THEY CANNOT BE CONVINCED TO DO

CANNOT BE CONVINCED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BY RHETORIC.

SOMETHING DIFFERENT BY RHETORIC. THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT TO

THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO BY MOTHER NATURES HAND.

DO BY MOTHER NATURES HAND. WE HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT

WE HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.

NOW. >> I WANT TO PLAY YOU A QUICK

>> I WANT TO PLAY YOU A QUICK INTERVIEW WITH AN E.R. DOC,

INTERVIEW WITH AN E.R. DOC, ELMHURST HOSPITAL, ELM HURST,

ELMHURST HOSPITAL, ELM HURST, QUEENS.

QUEENS. A PLACE I HASTEN TO ADD THAT

A PLACE I HASTEN TO ADD THAT PULLED UP A REFRIGERATION TRUCK

PULLED UP A REFRIGERATION TRUCK TODAY TO SERVE AS THEIR

TODAY TO SERVE AS THEIR TEMPORARY MORGUE.

TEMPORARY MORGUE. >> TODAY IS KIND OF GETTING

>> TODAY IS KIND OF GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

WORSE AND WORSE. WE HAD TO GET A REFRIGERATED

WE HAD TO GET A REFRIGERATED TRUCK TO STORE THE BODIES OF

TRUCK TO STORE THE BODIES OF PATIENTS WHO ARE DYING.

PATIENTS WHO ARE DYING. WE ARE RIGHT NOW SCRAMBLING TO

WE ARE RIGHT NOW SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO GET A FEW ADDITIONAL

TRY TO GET A FEW ADDITIONAL VENTILATORS.

VENTILATORS. >> DOCTOR, HOW FAR ABOVE

>> DOCTOR, HOW FAR ABOVE CAPACITY ARE OUR HOSPITALS GOING

CAPACITY ARE OUR HOSPITALS GOING TO BE RUNNING AND WHEN?

TO BE RUNNING AND WHEN? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WROTE A

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WROTE A PIECE BACK IN 2005 THAT TALKED

PIECE BACK IN 2005 THAT TALKED ABOUT OUR LACK OF PREPAREDNESS

ABOUT OUR LACK OF PREPAREDNESS FOR A PANDEMIC AND I WISH IT

FOR A PANDEMIC AND I WISH IT WERE 2005 AGAIN BECAUSE WE WERE

WERE 2005 AGAIN BECAUSE WE WERE MUCH BETTER PREPARED BACK THEN

MUCH BETTER PREPARED BACK THEN THAN WE ARE NOW.

THAN WE ARE NOW. WE HAVE BASICALLY GNAWED OUR

WE HAVE BASICALLY GNAWED OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM DOWN TO THE

HEALTH CARE SYSTEM DOWN TO THE BONE.

BONE. THERE IS NO RESILIENCY.

THERE IS NO RESILIENCY. ON A GIVEN DAY 95% OF THE BEDS

ON A GIVEN DAY 95% OF THE BEDS ARE ALREADY FILLED.

ARE ALREADY FILLED. WE HAVE NO EXCESS CAPACITY FOR

WE HAVE NO EXCESS CAPACITY FOR VENTILATORS.

VENTILATORS. I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST

I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST TRAGEDIES IS GOING TO BE MANY OF

TRAGEDIES IS GOING TO BE MANY OF OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE

OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE GOING TO SUFFER THIS INFECTION

GOING TO SUFFER THIS INFECTION AND SOME DIE BECAUSE OF

AND SOME DIE BECAUSE OF ACQUIRING IT AT WORK BECAUSE WE

ACQUIRING IT AT WORK BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE THE PROTECTIVE

DONT HAVE THE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO PROTECT THEM.

EQUIPMENT TO PROTECT THEM. SO I THINK THIS SITUATION IS

SO I THINK THIS SITUATION IS PLAYING OUT IN NEW YORK IS

PLAYING OUT IN NEW YORK IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY, VERY DRAMATIC

OBVIOUSLY A VERY, VERY DRAMATIC PICTURE.

PICTURE. AND IT WILL PLAY OUT IN OTHER

AND IT WILL PLAY OUT IN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE HEALTH CARE

UNDERSTAND THAT THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AS WE KNOW IT WILL BE

SYSTEM AS WE KNOW IT WILL BE OVERWHELMED.

OVERWHELMED. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER

THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER NORMAL TIME.

NORMAL TIME. IT WILL BE A NEW NORMAL.

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