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YOU HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH JELANI COBB ON THAT AND

WITH JELANI COBB ON THAT AND BROADER CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES.

BROADER CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES. A LOT TO COME IN TONIGHTS SHOW.

A LOT TO COME IN TONIGHTS SHOW. WE BEGIN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTSES

WE BEGIN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTSES IN WHAT IS TO BE CLEAR, THE MOST

IN WHAT IS TO BE CLEAR, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONGRESSIONAL

SIGNIFICANT CONGRESSIONAL HEARING OF THIS YEAR IF NOT THE

HEARING OF THIS YEAR IF NOT THE TRUMP ERA.

TRUMP ERA. BOB MUELLER TESTIFIES NEXT WEEK.

BOB MUELLER TESTIFIES NEXT WEEK. TONIGHT THERE ARE CLEAR SIGNS

TONIGHT THERE ARE CLEAR SIGNS TRUMPS TEAM IS WORRIED AND

TRUMPS TEAM IS WORRIED AND TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF WHATEVER

TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF WHATEVER BOB MUELLER WILL SAY.

BOB MUELLER WILL SAY. BILL SBRAR DISMISSING IT AS A

BILL SBRAR DISMISSING IT AS A SPECTACLE AND NOW DONALD TRUMPS

SPECTACLE AND NOW DONALD TRUMPS CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER CASTING

CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER CASTING ANY IF YOU TESTIMONY FROM

ANY IF YOU TESTIMONY FROM MUELLER THAT HASNT HAPPENED YET

MUELLER THAT HASNT HAPPENED YET AS A LET DOWN.

AS A LET DOWN. >>> MY SENSE IS THAT BOB IS

>>> MY SENSE IS THAT BOB IS GOING TO TESTIFY, HES GOING TO

GOING TO TESTIFY, HES GOING TO STICK TO THE, HE SAID HIS REPORT

STICK TO THE, HE SAID HIS REPORT IS HIS TESTIMONY.

IS HIS TESTIMONY. AND NOW I EXPECT HIS TESTIMONY

AND NOW I EXPECT HIS TESTIMONY IS GOING TO BE HIS REPORT.

IS GOING TO BE HIS REPORT. I THINK HES GOING TO STICK TO

I THINK HES GOING TO STICK TO THE REPORT.

THE REPORT. IN THAT SENSE, I THINK ITS

IN THAT SENSE, I THINK ITS GOING TO BE THE GREAT LET DOWN.

GOING TO BE THE GREAT LET DOWN. >> DONALD TRUMPS LAWYER MAKES

>> DONALD TRUMPS LAWYER MAKES TWO CLAIMS.

TWO CLAIMS. ONE IS AN OPINION, EVERYONE HAS

ONE IS AN OPINION, EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO REVIEW THIS HEARING

A RIGHT TO REVIEW THIS HEARING BUT REVIEWING IT AND STATING IT

BUT REVIEWING IT AND STATING IT OPINIONS SIGHT UNSEEN IS NOT

OPINIONS SIGHT UNSEEN IS NOT VERY CREDIBLE.

VERY CREDIBLE. THE OTHER IS FACTUAL IN NATURE,

THE OTHER IS FACTUAL IN NATURE, THE ASSERTION HIS TESTIMONY WILL

THE ASSERTION HIS TESTIMONY WILL STICK TO THE REPORT.

STICK TO THE REPORT. FACT CHECK, AND FACT CHECKS

FACT CHECK, AND FACT CHECKS DONT ALWAYS END WITH SOMEONE

DONT ALWAYS END WITH SOMEONE BEING WRONG.

BEING WRONG. JAY SEKULOW IS CORRECT ABOUT

JAY SEKULOW IS CORRECT ABOUT THAT.

THAT. HERE AT "THE BEAT" WIIG SCOURED

HERE AT "THE BEAT" WIIG SCOURED THE 60 PLUS TIMES MUELLER

THE 60 PLUS TIMES MUELLER ADDRESSED CONGRESS.

ADDRESSED CONGRESS. HE DOES STICK TO HIS PLAN AND

HE DOES STICK TO HIS PLAN AND THE FACTS.

THE FACTS. HE AVOIDS THEATRICS AND FOCUSES

HE AVOIDS THEATRICS AND FOCUSES TESTIMONY ON THE PUBLIC

TESTIMONY ON THE PUBLIC INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS AND HE

INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS AND HE TENDS TO SWAT AWAY QUESTIONS

TENDS TO SWAT AWAY QUESTIONS THAT DEPEND MORE SENSITIVE

THAT DEPEND MORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION.

INFORMATION. SO IM TELLING YOU TONIGHT OUR

SO IM TELLING YOU TONIGHT OUR REPORTING SUGGESTS MUELLER WILL

REPORTING SUGGESTS MUELLER WILL STICKING TO THAT SAME PLAN NEXT

STICKING TO THAT SAME PLAN NEXT WEEK AND QUESTIONS DESIGNED TO

WEEK AND QUESTIONS DESIGNED TO GET HIM BEYOND THE MUELLERS

GET HIM BEYOND THE MUELLERS REPORT CAREFUL BALANCING ACT WIL

REPORT CAREFUL BALANCING ACT WIL PROBABLY GET THE MUELLER

PROBABLY GET THE MUELLER TREATMENT.

TREATMENT. HE CAN JUST QUOTE FROM THE

HE CAN JUST QUOTE FROM THE REPORT IN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS,

REPORT IN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS, PART OF WHAT HE DID ON HIS ONLY

PART OF WHAT HE DID ON HIS ONLY PUBLIC REMARKS ON THIS PROBE TO

PUBLIC REMARKS ON THIS PROBE TO DATE.

DATE. >> ASSET FORTH IN THE REPORT

>> ASSET FORTH IN THE REPORT AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION IF WE

AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION IF WE HAD HAD OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE

HAD HAD OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY DID NOT COMMIT

PRESIDENT CLEARLY DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME, WE WOULD HAVE SAID SO.

A CRIME, WE WOULD HAVE SAID SO. >> DEMOCRATS ARE WORKING TO TURN

>> DEMOCRATS ARE WORKING TO TURN UP THE HEAT ON TEAM TRUMP BEFORE

UP THE HEAT ON TEAM TRUMP BEFORE THIS HEARING BEGINS REVEALING

THIS HEARING BEGINS REVEALING PLANS TO SUBPOENA SOME OF THE

PLANS TO SUBPOENA SOME OF THE MUELLER REPORTS BIGGEST

MUELLER REPORTS BIGGEST WITNESSES, GUILTY MIKE FLYNN,

WITNESSES, GUILTY MIKE FLYNN, OUSTED ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF

OUSTED ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS AND OF COURSE,

SESSIONS AND OF COURSE, SON-IN-LAW JARED KUSHNER.

SON-IN-LAW JARED KUSHNER. PLUS OTHERS LINKED TO THE HUSH

PLUS OTHERS LINKED TO THE HUSH MOBE PAYMENTS FROM THE 2016

MOBE PAYMENTS FROM THE 2016 CAMPAIGN WHICH IS PART OF A

CAMPAIGN WHICH IS PART OF A CRIME THAT MICHAEL COHEN

CRIME THAT MICHAEL COHEN CONFESSED TO.

CONFESSED TO. AS THE HOUSE PREPARES FOR THIS

AS THE HOUSE PREPARES FOR THIS MUELLER STAND OFF, THE ISSUES

MUELLER STAND OFF, THE ISSUES HERE ARE BROADER THAN EVEN THAT

HERE ARE BROADER THAN EVEN THAT NEXT SET OF SUBPOENA SKIRMISHES

NEXT SET OF SUBPOENA SKIRMISHES OR WHETHER THE HOUSE ULTIMATELY

OR WHETHER THE HOUSE ULTIMATELY OPENS A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT

OPENS A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT PROBE.

PROBE. I WANT TO TELL YOU TONIGHT, THE

I WANT TO TELL YOU TONIGHT, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE MUELLER

QUESTION IS WHETHER THE MUELLER HEARINGS WILL FINALLY TAKE UP

HEARINGS WILL FINALLY TAKE UP ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS OF THIS ADMITTEDLY

DOCUMENTS OF THIS ADMITTEDLY GONZO POLITICAL ERA AND BRING IT

GONZO POLITICAL ERA AND BRING IT TO LIFE FOR AMERICANS.

TO LIFE FOR AMERICANS. BECAUSE THIS REPORT IS DAMNING.

BECAUSE THIS REPORT IS DAMNING. IT IS EXCLUSIVIVE.

IT IS EXCLUSIVIVE. IN SOME WAYS IT IS SCARY.

IN SOME WAYS IT IS SCARY. WEVE READ IT.

WEVE READ IT. IVE READ IT MORE THAN ONCE.

IVE READ IT MORE THAN ONCE. IT DETAILS A FOREIGN OPERATION

IT DETAILS A FOREIGN OPERATION TO KNEECAP OUR DEMOCRACY AS WE

TO KNEECAP OUR DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT AND ALSO FINDS NO

KNOW IT AND ALSO FINDS NO CHARGEABLE ELECTION CONSPIRACY

CHARGEABLE ELECTION CONSPIRACY BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND IT

BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND IT ALSO FINDS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

ALSO FINDS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COMMITTED

THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COMMITTED THE CRIME OF OBSTRUCTION MORE

THE CRIME OF OBSTRUCTION MORE THAN ONCE IN OFFICE.

THAN ONCE IN OFFICE. ITS IMPORTANT STUFF.

ITS IMPORTANT STUFF. BUT AS WITH ALL THINGS IN

BUT AS WITH ALL THINGS IN POLITICS AND LIFE, YOU HAVE TO

POLITICS AND LIFE, YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT IT TO CARE ABOUT IT.

KNOW ABOUT IT TO CARE ABOUT IT. MOST AMERICANS HAVENT READ THE

MOST AMERICANS HAVENT READ THE REPORT SO THEY DONT KNOW HOW

REPORT SO THEY DONT KNOW HOW STRONG MUELLERS EVIDENCE IS AND

STRONG MUELLERS EVIDENCE IS AND THATS UNDERSTANDABLE.

THATS UNDERSTANDABLE. THEYRE BUSY WITH JOBS AND LIFE.

THEYRE BUSY WITH JOBS AND LIFE. WHAT IF YOUR JOB IS TO DO

WHAT IF YOUR JOB IS TO DO OVERSIGHT OF THE EXECUTIVE

OVERSIGHT OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH?

BRANCH? MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVENT

MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVENT READ THIS REPORT EITHER OVER A

READ THIS REPORT EITHER OVER A DOZEN OPENLY ADMITTED TO

DOZEN OPENLY ADMITTED TO POLITICO THEY DIDNT SIT DOWN

POLITICO THEY DIDNT SIT DOWN AND READ THE WHOLE THING.

AND READ THE WHOLE THING. SOME EVEN HAD THE WHATS THE

SOME EVEN HAD THE WHATS THE POINT.

POINT. WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE

WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOINED THIS BOOK CLUB, THE ONLY

JOINED THIS BOOK CLUB, THE ONLY REPUBLICAN TO CALL FOR

REPUBLICAN TO CALL FOR IMPEACHMENT, CONGRESSMAN AMASH I

IMPEACHMENT, CONGRESSMAN AMASH I MENTIONED EARLIER LEFT THE PARTY

MENTIONED EARLIER LEFT THE PARTY OVER THIS ISSUE.

OVER THIS ISSUE. HE READ THE MUELLER REPORT AND

HE READ THE MUELLER REPORT AND HE SAYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS

HE SAYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT.

COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT. >> PEOPLE AT HOME ARENT READING

>> PEOPLE AT HOME ARENT READING THE MUELLER REPORT.

THE MUELLER REPORT. MOST PEOPLE DONT HAVE TIME TO

MOST PEOPLE DONT HAVE TIME TO READ A 448-PAGE REPORT.

READ A 448-PAGE REPORT. THEY EXPECT THEIR MEMBERS OF

THEY EXPECT THEIR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO DO THE WORK.

CONGRESS TO DO THE WORK. HOW MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DO

HOW MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DO YOU THINK HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE

YOU THINK HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE MUELLER REPORT.

MUELLER REPORT. >> PROBABLY LESS THAN 15%.

>> PROBABLY LESS THAN 15%. ID SAY THATS PROBABLY THE CASE

ID SAY THATS PROBABLY THE CASE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. >> BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

>> BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. THATS IMPORTANT.

THATS IMPORTANT. THERES NO GREATER PROOF YOURE

THERES NO GREATER PROOF YOURE UNINTERESTED IN ACTUAL FACTS AS

UNINTERESTED IN ACTUAL FACTS AS A POLITICIAN THAN IGNORING THE

A POLITICIAN THAN IGNORING THE EVIDENCE, WHETHER ITS

EVIDENCE, WHETHER ITS REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS TO DONT

REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS TO DONT WANT TO KNOW THE CRIMINAL

WANT TO KNOW THE CRIMINAL EVIDENCE AGAINST TRUMP IN THIS

EVIDENCE AGAINST TRUMP IN THIS REPORT OR FROM DEMOCRATS WHO

REPORT OR FROM DEMOCRATS WHO DONT WANT TO KNOW HOW VIGOROUS

DONT WANT TO KNOW HOW VIGOROUS LIS MUELLER INVESTIGATED A

LIS MUELLER INVESTIGATED A POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AND WROTE

POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AND WROTE DOWN IN HERE THERE WAS

DOWN IN HERE THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO CHARGE

INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO CHARGE HIM.

HIM. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ACTING LIKE

MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ACTING LIKE THIS PREDATES THIS PRE-TRUMP

THIS PREDATES THIS PRE-TRUMP ERA.

ERA. AND MAKES US THINK OF FAHRENHEIT

AND MAKES US THINK OF FAHRENHEIT HEIGHT 911 WHICH TOUCHED ON

HEIGHT 911 WHICH TOUCHED ON CONGRESSIONAL IGNORANCE.

CONGRESSIONAL IGNORANCE. JOHN CONYERS ADMITTING THE

JOHN CONYERS ADMITTING THE PATRIOT ACT PASSED BECAUSE

PATRIOT ACT PASSED BECAUSE MEMBERS DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS IN

MEMBERS DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS IN IT AND DIDNT READ IT.

IT AND DIDNT READ IT. >> HOW COULD CONGRESS PASS THIS

>> HOW COULD CONGRESS PASS THIS ACT WITHOUT EVEN READING IT.

ACT WITHOUT EVEN READING IT. >> SIT DOWN, MY SON.

>> SIT DOWN, MY SON. WE DONT READ MOST OF THE BILLS.

WE DONT READ MOST OF THE BILLS. DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT

DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL?

WOULD ENTAIL? >> WE DONT READ MOST OF THE

>> WE DONT READ MOST OF THE BILLS.

BILLS. CREDIT HIM FOR HIS HONESTY.

CREDIT HIM FOR HIS HONESTY. AND MAYBE MOST OF THE BILLS, THE

AND MAYBE MOST OF THE BILLS, THE ONES THAT DONT PASS, THE ONES

ONES THAT DONT PASS, THE ONES WRITTEN BY ONE PERSON WITH NO

WRITTEN BY ONE PERSON WITH NO FACT FINDING OR EVIDENCE

FACT FINDING OR EVIDENCE INVESTIGATION, MAYBE MOST OF

INVESTIGATION, MAYBE MOST OF THOSE BILLS DONT ALL NEED TO BE

THOSE BILLS DONT ALL NEED TO BE READ BY LINE.

READ BY LINE. THIS ISNT MOST BILLS.

THIS ISNT MOST BILLS. WITH THAT, WE TURN TO AN

WITH THAT, WE TURN TO AN ANALYSIS OF WHY THIS MUELLER

ANALYSIS OF WHY THIS MUELLER HEARING HAS THE WHITE HOUSE ON

HEARING HAS THE WHITE HOUSE ON EDGE.

EDGE. MAYA WILEY, AND FORMER FEDERAL

MAYA WILEY, AND FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JOHN FLANNERY.

PROSECUTOR JOHN FLANNERY. JOHN, IF THEY HAVENT READ IT,

JOHN, IF THEY HAVENT READ IT, SHOULD THEY READ IT?

SHOULD THEY READ IT? AND WILL THEY LEARN SOMETHING AS

AND WILL THEY LEARN SOMETHING AS WELL AS THE REST OF AMERICA NEXT

WELL AS THE REST OF AMERICA NEXT WEEK.

WEEK. >> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE FIRED.

>> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE FIRED. WHEN I WAS ON THE HILL DURING

WHEN I WAS ON THE HILL DURING THE STARR REPORT, WE RECEIVED IT

THE STARR REPORT, WE RECEIVED IT IN SEPTEMBER OF98, YES.

IN SEPTEMBER OF98, YES. AND WE SAT THERE IN SEPARATE

AND WE SAT THERE IN SEPARATE ROOMS AND READ IT COVER TO

ROOMS AND READ IT COVER TO COVER.

COVER. AND WE HAD SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS

AND WE HAD SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT IT IN GREAT

TALKING ABOUT IT IN GREAT DETAIL.

DETAIL. SO I CANT IMAGINE A GREATER

SO I CANT IMAGINE A GREATER FAILURE FOR A CONGRESS THAN TO

FAILURE FOR A CONGRESS THAN TO DECIDE TO PROTECT IT AGAINST THE

DECIDE TO PROTECT IT AGAINST THE USURP PARTICIPATION OF ITS POWER

USURP PARTICIPATION OF ITS POWER BY THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE

BY THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE CONTEMPLATED IN THE 1787

CONTEMPLATED IN THE 1787 CONSTITUTION THAT WAS CONCERNED

CONSTITUTION THAT WAS CONCERNED THAT A PRESIDENT WITH A MONARCH

THAT A PRESIDENT WITH A MONARCH CAL BENT WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT

CAL BENT WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT WERE DEALING WITH NOW AND

WERE DEALING WITH NOW AND THEYRE NOT EVEN READING THE

THEYRE NOT EVEN READING THE FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT IT. THATS A SHAME AND DISGRACE.

THATS A SHAME AND DISGRACE. I DONT THINK THERES ANY OTHER

I DONT THINK THERES ANY OTHER WAY TO PUT IT.

WAY TO PUT IT. >> MAYA, THE WAY WEVE HEARD IT

>> MAYA, THE WAY WEVE HEARD IT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AS A SHOWED

FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AS A SHOWED IS HEY, BECAUSE ITS ONLY GOING

IS HEY, BECAUSE ITS ONLY GOING TO BE BASED ON THE MUELLER

TO BE BASED ON THE MUELLER REPORT, IT IS THEREFORE A LET

REPORT, IT IS THEREFORE A LET DOWN.

DOWN. IS THAT TRUE.

IS THAT TRUE. >> THATS WHAT THEY HOPE.

>> THATS WHAT THEY HOPE. I THINK WE HEARD FROM WILLIAM

I THINK WE HEARD FROM WILLIAM BARR HE KNOWS ITS NOT TRUE.

BARR HE KNOWS ITS NOT TRUE. THATS WHY HE WANTED TO POUR

THATS WHY HE WANTED TO POUR COLD WATER OVER IT, CALL IT A

COLD WATER OVER IT, CALL IT A SPECTACLE AND ALSO SORT OF

SPECTACLE AND ALSO SORT OF SIGNAL TO BOB MUELLER HEY, WE

SIGNAL TO BOB MUELLER HEY, WE GOT YOUR BACK IF YOU DONT WANT

GOT YOUR BACK IF YOU DONT WANT TO DO THIS.

TO DO THIS. THE REALITY IS, THEY ALL KNOW AS

THE REALITY IS, THEY ALL KNOW AS THE REST OF US DO WHEN ROBERT

THE REST OF US DO WHEN ROBERT MUELLER GAVE THAT VERY BRIEF

MUELLER GAVE THAT VERY BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AND SIMPLY SAID

PRESS CONFERENCE AND SIMPLY SAID ESSENTIALLY WHAT HIS FINDINGS

ESSENTIALLY WHAT HIS FINDINGS FROM THE REPORT WERE, YOU SAW A

FROM THE REPORT WERE, YOU SAW A BUMP IN THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS

BUMP IN THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS WHO WERE NOW MORE WILLING TO

WHO WERE NOW MORE WILLING TO SUPPORT SOME FORM OF IMPEACHMENT

SUPPORT SOME FORM OF IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION AND THATS BECAUSE

INVESTIGATION AND THATS BECAUSE FOR MANY, IT BECAME MUCH CLEARER

FOR MANY, IT BECAME MUCH CLEARER THAT WHAT WILLIAM BARR TOLD US

THAT WHAT WILLIAM BARR TOLD US THE REPORT SAID WAS NOT THE SAME

THE REPORT SAID WAS NOT THE SAME THING THAT THEY WERE HEARING

THING THAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM ROBERT MUELLER.

FROM ROBERT MUELLER. SO WHAT IS CRITICAL HERE ARE TWO

SO WHAT IS CRITICAL HERE ARE TWO THINGS.

THINGS. ONE, THAT THEY WILL PAY

ONE, THAT THEY WILL PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE ROBERT MUELLER

ATTENTION BECAUSE ROBERT MUELLER WILL SAY IT HIMSELF.

WILL SAY IT HIMSELF. IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE

IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE EMBELLISHED.

EMBELLISHED. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ SOME

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ SOME OF THESE FACTS TO REALIZE HOW

OF THESE FACTS TO REALIZE HOW DISTURBING AND SHOCKING THEY ARE

DISTURBING AND SHOCKING THEY ARE IN PARTICULAR ON OBSTRUCTION

IN PARTICULAR ON OBSTRUCTION ALTHOUGH NOT ONLY ON

ALTHOUGH NOT ONLY ON OBSTRUCTION.

OBSTRUCTION. AND SECONDLY, CONGRESS HAS TO IN

AND SECONDLY, CONGRESS HAS TO IN ORDER TO HAVE ITS EFFECTIVE

ORDER TO HAVE ITS EFFECTIVE SUBPOENA FIGHTS LAY THE

SUBPOENA FIGHTS LAY THE FOUNDATION FROM ROBERT MUELLER

FOUNDATION FROM ROBERT MUELLER IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF

IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE EVIDENCE HE FOUND WHY THEY

THE EVIDENCE HE FOUND WHY THEY NEED SUBPOENAS TO HEAR FROM

NEED SUBPOENAS TO HEAR FROM THESE WITNESSES THEMSELVES.

THESE WITNESSES THEMSELVES. SO THEY ALSO HAVE A LEGAL JOB TO

SO THEY ALSO HAVE A LEGAL JOB TO DO HERE IN TERMS OF HAVING

DO HERE IN TERMS OF HAVING MUELLER TESTIFY.

MUELLER TESTIFY. >> JOHN, TACK A LISTEN TO SOME

>> JOHN, TACK A LISTEN TO SOME OF THE REPORTING WEVE DONE AS

OF THE REPORTING WEVE DONE AS WE WENT THROUGH THE ARCHIVES

WE WENT THROUGH THE ARCHIVES BECAUSE WHEN BOB MUELLER GETS

BECAUSE WHEN BOB MUELLER GETS THE QUESTIONS HE DOESNT WANT

THE QUESTIONS HE DOESNT WANT ANSWERED, FOR EXAMPLE, BEYOND

ANSWERED, FOR EXAMPLE, BEYOND THE REPORT OR SPECULATING OR

THE REPORT OR SPECULATING OR EVEN BEEFING WITH BARR, HE HAS

EVEN BEEFING WITH BARR, HE HAS SPENT A LIFETIME, 60 HEARINGS WE

SPENT A LIFETIME, 60 HEARINGS WE COUNTED, DISMISSING THOSE KIND

COUNTED, DISMISSING THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.

OF QUESTIONS. TAKE A LOOK.

TAKE A LOOK. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. >> I HESITATE TO SPECULATE

>> I HESITATE TO SPECULATE BECAUSE I HAVE JUST A PIECE OF

BECAUSE I HAVE JUST A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE ALSO.

THE PUZZLE ALSO. >> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE

>> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.

ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN. >> IN EVERY INVESTIGATION, AND

>> IN EVERY INVESTIGATION, AND PARTICULARLY A FAST-MOVING

PARTICULARLY A FAST-MOVING INVESTIGATION, THERE ARE STEPS

INVESTIGATION, THERE ARE STEPS THAT ARE TAKEN THAT MAY OR MAY

THAT ARE TAKEN THAT MAY OR MAY MOT WORK OUT.

MOT WORK OUT. >> ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO

>> ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO GENERALIZE OR TO REACH SOME SORT

GENERALIZE OR TO REACH SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING OR MAKE

OF UNDERSTANDING OR MAKE PROGRESS WITH THAT

PROGRESS WITH THAT GENERALIZATION.

GENERALIZATION. >> JOHN?

>> JOHN? >> WELL, ITS HOW YOU QUESTION

>> WELL, ITS HOW YOU QUESTION ANY WITNESS.

ANY WITNESS. IVE DEALT WITH WITNESSES AS

IVE DEALT WITH WITNESSES AS YOURE SUGGESTING HE MIGHT ACT

YOURE SUGGESTING HE MIGHT ACT NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK. IN HIS CASE, HE CANT BE SAID TO

IN HIS CASE, HE CANT BE SAID TO BE SPECULATING AFTER 22 MONTHS

BE SPECULATING AFTER 22 MONTHS OF INVESTIGATION.

OF INVESTIGATION. HE CANT SHIRK A RESPONSIBILITY

HE CANT SHIRK A RESPONSIBILITY AND IT SHOULD BE PUT TO HIM IN

AND IT SHOULD BE PUT TO HIM IN THIS WAY FOR CLEANING UP THE

THIS WAY FOR CLEANING UP THE CONFUSION IN THIS COUNTRY GIVEN

CONFUSION IN THIS COUNTRY GIVEN THE MISLEADING STATEMENTS BY

THE MISLEADING STATEMENTS BY BARR WHO BASICALLY ACTED AS A

BARR WHO BASICALLY ACTED AS A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND

MOUTHPIECE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND DISASSEMBLED THE CONCLUSIONS

DISASSEMBLED THE CONCLUSIONS THAT HE CAME UP WITH.

THAT HE CAME UP WITH. NOW, HE CANT SAY HES A STANDBY

NOW, HE CANT SAY HES A STANDBY AFTER HE WROTE LETTERS TO BARR

AFTER HE WROTE LETTERS TO BARR COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT BARR DID.

COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT BARR DID. AND THERES ONE LETTER HE WROTE

AND THERES ONE LETTER HE WROTE WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT SAID.

WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT SAID. IT SEEMS TO ME AT THE HEARING

IT SEEMS TO ME AT THE HEARING WHEN HES SITTING THERE, THE

WHEN HES SITTING THERE, THE QUESTION IS PUT, YOU SAID SUCH

QUESTION IS PUT, YOU SAID SUCH AND SUCH IN YOUR REPORT.

AND SUCH IN YOUR REPORT. ISNT THAT A FACT?

ISNT THAT A FACT? ISNT THAT PERFECTLY RIGHT AND

ISNT THAT PERFECTLY RIGHT AND QUOTING HIS FOOTNOTES SAYING

QUOTING HIS FOOTNOTES SAYING THAT CONGRESS HAS THE

THAT CONGRESS HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO FORWARD AND

RESPONSIBILITY TO GO FORWARD AND ASKING HIM, DO WE NEED ANY MORE

ASKING HIM, DO WE NEED ANY MORE AS YOU SUGGEST IN YOUR TESTIMONY

AS YOU SUGGEST IN YOUR TESTIMONY TO GO FORWARD WITH IMPEACHMENT.

TO GO FORWARD WITH IMPEACHMENT. THATS A DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD

THATS A DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD BE HAD AND HE SHOULD BE ASKED

BE HAD AND HE SHOULD BE ASKED ABOUT IN THE SECOND PART OF THE

ABOUT IN THE SECOND PART OF THE REPORT HOW HE SAID HIS

REPORT HOW HE SAID HIS INVESTIGATION WAS UNFINISHED AND

INVESTIGATION WAS UNFINISHED AND IT WAS UNFISHED BECAUSE HE SAID

IT WAS UNFISHED BECAUSE HE SAID THE FBI HADNT DONE A THOROUGH

THE FBI HADNT DONE A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF THE CRIME THAT

INVESTIGATION OF THE CRIME THAT WE KNOW TO BE COLLUSION

WE KNOW TO BE COLLUSION TRANSPORTED TO A CRIMINAL

TRANSPORTED TO A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY BUT THEY NEVER

CONSPIRACY BUT THEY NEVER FINISHED THAT INVESTIGATION.

FINISHED THAT INVESTIGATION. WHY IS THAT, MR. SPECIAL

WHY IS THAT, MR. SPECIAL COUNSEL?

COUNSEL? WHY DIDNT YOU DO THAT

WHY DIDNT YOU DO THAT INVESTIGATION?

INVESTIGATION? DID BARR TOP YOU?

DID BARR TOP YOU? DID ROSENSTEIN STOP YOU?

DID ROSENSTEIN STOP YOU? GIVE US AN EXPLANATION.

GIVE US AN EXPLANATION. THE COUNTRY DESERVES IT AND

THE COUNTRY DESERVES IT AND NEEDS TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDNT

NEEDS TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDNT FINISH WHAT YOU WERE TOLD TO DO.

FINISH WHAT YOU WERE TOLD TO DO. >> THESE ARE BIG QUESTIONS FOR

>> THESE ARE BIG QUESTIONS FOR THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE.

THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE. IT ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH IF YOU

IT ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH IF YOU BELIEVE THAT JAN FLANNERY IS ON

BELIEVE THAT JAN FLANNERY IS ON TO A GOOD LINE OF QUESTIONING,

TO A GOOD LINE OF QUESTIONING, MAKES YOU WISH SOME OF THE

MAKES YOU WISH SOME OF THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE COMMITTEE ARE

MEMBERS THAT HAVE COMMITTEE ARE LISTENING TO YOU, SIR.

LISTENING TO YOU, SIR. WITH THAT IN MIND, STAY WITH ME.

WITH THAT IN MIND, STAY WITH ME. I BRING IN CALIFORNIA

I BRING IN CALIFORNIA CONGRESSMAN TED LIEU WHO SERVES

CONGRESSMAN TED LIEU WHO SERVES ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WHICH

ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WHICH WILL QUESTION MUELLER NEXT WEEK.

WILL QUESTION MUELLER NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, SIR. >> THANK YOU, ARI.

>> THANK YOU, ARI. >> YES OR NO, HAVE YOU READ THE

>> YES OR NO, HAVE YOU READ THE REPORT.

REPORT. >> I HAVE.

>> I HAVE. YES OR NO, DO YOU THINK JUSTIN

YES OR NO, DO YOU THINK JUSTIN AMASH IS BASICALLY RIGHT THAT

AMASH IS BASICALLY RIGHT THAT MOST OF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE

MOST OF YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT.

NOT. >> I THINK HES SOMEWHAT RIGHT.

>> I THINK HES SOMEWHAT RIGHT. IT IS A LONG REPORT BUT IF YOU

IT IS A LONG REPORT BUT IF YOU SIMPLY READ THE EXECUTIVE

SIMPLY READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARIES FOR EACH VOLUME, YOU

SUMMARIES FOR EACH VOLUME, YOU CAN GET THE GIST OF IT.

CAN GET THE GIST OF IT. I AT LEAST IMPLORE MY COLLEAGUES

I AT LEAST IMPLORE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THAT.

TO DO THAT. >> INTERESTING GIVEN THE

>> INTERESTING GIVEN THE FRAMEWORK WEVE BEEN DISCUSSING.

FRAMEWORK WEVE BEEN DISCUSSING. YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOUVE

YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOUVE HEARD FROM OUR LAWYERS HERE.

HEARD FROM OUR LAWYERS HERE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW. >> SURE, THE MUELLER REPORT IS

>> SURE, THE MUELLER REPORT IS VERY DAMNING.

VERY DAMNING. A FAIR READING SHOWS THE

A FAIR READING SHOWS THE RUSSIANS ATTACKED US IN 2016,

RUSSIANS ATTACKED US IN 2016, THERE WAS SOME COLLUSION AND A

THERE WAS SOME COLLUSION AND A LOT OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

LOT OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. WE NEED ROBERT MUELLER TO

WE NEED ROBERT MUELLER TO HIGHLIGHT THE RELEVANT PORTIONS

HIGHLIGHT THE RELEVANT PORTIONS OF HIS REPORT.

OF HIS REPORT. WERE NOT LOOKING FOR A HAIL

WERE NOT LOOKING FOR A HAIL MARY.

MARY. WE JUST NEED A FIRST DOWN.

WE JUST NEED A FIRST DOWN. EVERY WEEK WERE PROGRESSING

EVERY WEEK WERE PROGRESSING DOWN THE FIELD AND WE LOOK

DOWN THE FIELD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO JULY 17th WHEN HE WAS

FORWARD TO JULY 17th WHEN HE WAS PROVIDE A LOT OF THIS

PROVIDE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE

INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AND

>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AND YOUR COLLEAGUES GOING TO DO IF

YOUR COLLEAGUES GOING TO DO IF AS WEVE FOUND HE BASICALLY GOES

AS WEVE FOUND HE BASICALLY GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO NOT SAY

OUT OF HIS WAY TO NOT SAY ANYTHING THAT ISNT ALREADY

ANYTHING THAT ISNT ALREADY WRITTEN IN THE REPORT?

WRITTEN IN THE REPORT? IVE JUST MENTIONED WHY I THINK

IVE JUST MENTIONED WHY I THINK AS AN EDUCATIONAL MATTER WHAT

AS AN EDUCATIONAL MATTER WHAT EVERYONES BLEENS OUT THERE,

EVERYONES BLEENS OUT THERE, ITS GOOD TO HAVE A FORUM FOR

ITS GOOD TO HAVE A FORUM FOR PEOPLE IN CONGRESS AND AMERICA

PEOPLE IN CONGRESS AND AMERICA TO UNDERSTAND WHATS IN THE

TO UNDERSTAND WHATS IN THE REPORT.

REPORT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF HE

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF HE SAYS HEY, IM NOT GOING BEYOND

SAYS HEY, IM NOT GOING BEYOND THE REPORT.

THE REPORT. >> IM TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.

>> IM TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. THIS REPORT HAS A LOT OF VERY

THIS REPORT HAS A LOT OF VERY DAMNING EVIDENCE IN IT.

DAMNING EVIDENCE IN IT. IF HE WOULD HIGH LIE THE

IF HE WOULD HIGH LIE THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE SECTIONS

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE SECTIONS HE CAN WALK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

HE CAN WALK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THROUGH HOW DONALD TRUMP

THROUGH HOW DONALD TRUMP ESSENTIALLY COMMITTED MULTIPLE

ESSENTIALLY COMMITTED MULTIPLE FELONIES AS PRESIDENT IN

FELONIES AS PRESIDENT IN OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.

OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE. WERE TRYING TO GET THE FACT

WERE TRYING TO GET THE FACT ISES OF THE MUELLER REPORT OUT

ISES OF THE MUELLER REPORT OUT AND BRING THEM TO LIFE.

AND BRING THEM TO LIFE. LOVE THE MUELLER IS A PERFECT

LOVE THE MUELLER IS A PERFECT WITNESS TO DO THAT.

WITNESS TO DO THAT. >> CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO GIVE

>> CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF RESPONDING TO

YOU THE BENEFIT OF RESPONDING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. YOURE ON THE JUDICIARY

YOURE ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WHICH OVERSEES THE

COMMITTEE WHICH OVERSEES THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE HES OF THE VIEW

IT SOUNDS LIKE HES OF THE VIEW HE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT YOU AND

HE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO ASK

YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO ASK AND HE KNOW WHATS MUELLERS

AND HE KNOW WHATS MUELLERS ANSWERS ARE AND HES DETERMINED

ANSWERS ARE AND HES DETERMINED ITS ALL A SPECTACLE.

ITS ALL A SPECTACLE. TAKE A LOOK.

TAKE A LOOK. >> I DONT THINK THAT SERVES ANY

>> I DONT THINK THAT SERVES ANY PURPOSE DRAGGING BOB MUELLER UP

PURPOSE DRAGGING BOB MUELLER UP IF HE IN FACT IS GOING TO STICK

IF HE IN FACT IS GOING TO STICK TO THE REPORT.

TO THE REPORT. IT SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY REASON

IT SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY REASON FOR DOING THAT IS TO CREATE SOME

FOR DOING THAT IS TO CREATE SOME KIND OF PUBLIC SPECTACLE.

KIND OF PUBLIC SPECTACLE. >> YOUR RESPONSE, SIR?

>> YOUR RESPONSE, SIR? >> SO WHY IS BILL BARR SO SCARED

>> SO WHY IS BILL BARR SO SCARED OF ROBERT MUELLER TESTIFYING?

OF ROBERT MUELLER TESTIFYING? ITS BECAUSE MUELLER IS GOING TO

ITS BECAUSE MUELLER IS GOING TO CONTRADICT WHAT BILL BARR DID IN

CONTRADICT WHAT BILL BARR DID IN REPRESENTING THE REPORT TO THE

REPRESENTING THE REPORT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AMERICAN PEOPLE. ROBERT MUELLER IS GOING TO SHOW

ROBERT MUELLER IS GOING TO SHOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF THE

THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND BILL

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND BILL BARR WHEN HE REPRESENTED THIS

BARR WHEN HE REPRESENTED THIS REPORT HE REALLY FAILED THE

REPORT HE REALLY FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AMERICAN PEOPLE. THATS WHY I THINK BILL BARR IS

THATS WHY I THINK BILL BARR IS SCARED.

SCARED. >> MAYA WILEY, THE LAST WORD

>> MAYA WILEY, THE LAST WORD GOES YOU TO HAVING WALKED US

GOES YOU TO HAVING WALKED US THROUGH THIS ENTIRE

THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

PRESENTATION. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MOST

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS WATCHING

IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS WATCHING WHO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE MUELLER

WHO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE MUELLER REPORT WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY

REPORT WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED IF NOTHING ELSE TO

INTERESTED IF NOTHING ELSE TO SEE HOW HE SOUNDS NEXT WEEK WHEN

SEE HOW HE SOUNDS NEXT WEEK WHEN WE ACTUALLY WATCH SOMETHING WE

WE ACTUALLY WATCH SOMETHING WE IN OUR REPORTING SAID AT TIMES

IN OUR REPORTING SAID AT TIMES MAY BE QUITE DRY AND CAREFUL.

MAY BE QUITE DRY AND CAREFUL. ITS NOT GOING TO BE ROB MUELLER

ITS NOT GOING TO BE ROB MUELLER SAYING THERES ONE MORE THING I

SAYING THERES ONE MORE THING I FEATHERWEIGHT TO MENTION HERE,

FEATHERWEIGHT TO MENTION HERE, THE PRESIDENTS A CROOK.

THE PRESIDENTS A CROOK. THATS NOT REALLY HOW IT GOES

THATS NOT REALLY HOW IT GOES DOWN.

DOWN. >> THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO WORK

>> THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO WORK DOES EXACTLY AS JOHN SAID AND AS

DOES EXACTLY AS JOHN SAID AND AS REPRESENTATIVE LUE SAID, GETTING

REPRESENTATIVE LUE SAID, GETTING ROBERT MUELLER TO REALLY FOCUS

ROBERT MUELLER TO REALLY FOCUS HIS ATTENTION ON JUST SAY WHAT

HIS ATTENTION ON JUST SAY WHAT THE REPORT SAYS IN KEY PARTS.

THE REPORT SAYS IN KEY PARTS. ITS NOT THE 448 PAGES.

ITS NOT THE 448 PAGES. ITS THE YOU SAID THAT THERE

ITS THE YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO MATERIALLY LIED

WERE PEOPLE WHO MATERIALLY LIED AND SOME OF THEM YOU BROUGHT

AND SOME OF THEM YOU BROUGHT CHARGES AGAINST.

CHARGES AGAINST. HOW MANY OTHER LIED THAT YOU

HOW MANY OTHER LIED THAT YOU DIDNT BRING CHARGES AGAINST?

DIDNT BRING CHARGES AGAINST? I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY -- YOU

I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY -- YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION IN A WAY

CAN ASK THE QUESTION IN A WAY THAT FOCUSES THE ATTENTION AND

THAT FOCUSES THE ATTENTION AND JUST ASKS HIM TO ANSWER A FACT

JUST ASKS HIM TO ANSWER A FACT QUESTION.

QUESTION. AND WALKING THROUGH EACH ONE OF

AND WALKING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE TEN PRIMARY INSTANCES OF

THOSE TEN PRIMARY INSTANCES OF DONALD TRUMP ASKING PEOPLE TO

DONALD TRUMP ASKING PEOPLE TO LIE, FABRICATE EVIDENCE, JUST

LIE, FABRICATE EVIDENCE, JUST WALKING THROUGH THOSE IS I THINK

WALKING THROUGH THOSE IS I THINK NOT SO DRY.

NOT SO DRY. ITS PRETTY POWERFUL STUFF.

ITS PRETTY POWERFUL STUFF. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LISTEN

THE OTHER THING I WOULD LISTEN FOR IS WHAT HE WILL NOT ANSWER

FOR IS WHAT HE WILL NOT ANSWER BECAUSE OF ONGOING

BECAUSE OF ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS.

INVESTIGATIONS. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. AND THATS A REMINDER IN THE

AND THATS A REMINDER IN THE BACK OF THIS THICK, YOUVE GOT

BACK OF THIS THICK, YOUVE GOT SEVERAL REFERRALS AND THAT IS A

SEVERAL REFERRALS AND THAT IS A LEGITIMATE THING BOTH FOR

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