HOUR AND MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST AND WHO HAS SERVED AS ANNED A
AND WHO HAS SERVED AS ANNED A VIE
VIE -- THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING
-- THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.
HERE. YOUR QUESTION TO DONALD TRUMP
YOUR QUESTION TO DONALD TRUMP WAS DISMISSED AS A NASTY
WAS DISMISSED AS A NASTY QUESTION.
QUESTION. I WISH SOMEONE ELSE FOLLOWED UP
I WISH SOMEONE ELSE FOLLOWED UP ON IT, BUT CAN YOU JUST FROM THE
ON IT, BUT CAN YOU JUST FROM THE REPORTING STANDPOINT CONFIRM FOR
REPORTING STANDPOINT CONFIRM FOR US WHO IS IT THAT GOT RID OF
US WHO IS IT THAT GOT RID OF THIS OFFICE BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP
THIS OFFICE BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
SAYS HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAD
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAD THIS OFFICE SET UP AFTER THE
THIS OFFICE SET UP AFTER THE EBOLA CRISIS AND HAD PEOPLE
EBOLA CRISIS AND HAD PEOPLE LOOKING AT MONITORING PANDEMICS
LOOKING AT MONITORING PANDEMICS AND LOOKING FOR SARS OR POLL
AND LOOKING FOR SARS OR POLL OWE.
OWE. PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT ELECTED AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT ELECTED AND KEPT IT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS
KEPT IT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS AND AROUND 2018, HE DECIDED HE
AND AROUND 2018, HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO DISBAND IT AND WHAT
WANTED TO DISBAND IT AND WHAT YOU SAW WAS HEALTH OFFICIALS,
YOU SAW WAS HEALTH OFFICIALS, TOP HEALTH OFFICIALS WHO ARE
TOP HEALTH OFFICIALS WHO ARE EXPERTS ON THINGS LIKE VIRUSES
EXPERTS ON THINGS LIKE VIRUSES THAT ARE SPREADING VERY QUICKLY,
THAT ARE SPREADING VERY QUICKLY, THEY LEFT ADMINISTRATION
THEY LEFT ADMINISTRATION ABRUPTLY.
ABRUPTLY. THAT WAS THEN -- THAT GROUP WAS
THAT WAS THEN -- THAT GROUP WAS THEN DISBANDED AND IT WAS NEVER,
THEN DISBANDED AND IT WAS NEVER, EVER BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER.
EVER BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER. THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY THAT WAS
THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY THAT WAS REPLACED THE DEAL WITH
REPLACED THE DEAL WITH PANDEMICS.
PANDEMICS. WHAT YOU SAW WAS THE PRESIDENT
WHAT YOU SAW WAS THE PRESIDENT SAY WE HAD TO SAVE MONEY AND
SAY WE HAD TO SAVE MONEY AND THAT’S WHY WE HAD TO GET RID OF
THAT’S WHY WE HAD TO GET RID OF THIS GROUP AND TODAY, WHEN I WAS
THIS GROUP AND TODAY, WHEN I WAS PRESSING HIM ON WHY THAT
PRESSING HIM ON WHY THAT HAPPENED, WHICH OF COURSE, THIS
HAPPENED, WHICH OF COURSE, THIS HAPPENED UNDER HIS
HAPPENED UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION, JOHN BOLTON, THE
ADMINISTRATION, JOHN BOLTON, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND COUNSEL KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT
COUNSEL KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT WHICH OF COURSE IS STUNNING
WHICH OF COURSE IS STUNNING GIVEN THE FACT IF HE’S TELLING
GIVEN THE FACT IF HE’S TELLING THE TRUTH, THE PRESIDENT MEANS
THE TRUTH, THE PRESIDENT MEANS HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON
HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND IF HE
IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND IF HE ISN’T TELLING THE TRUTH, WHICH
ISN’T TELLING THE TRUTH, WHICH SEEMS MORE LIKELY AT THIS POINT,
SEEMS MORE LIKELY AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT SAYING
YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT SAYING WELL, I’M COMPLETELY ALOOF AND
WELL, I’M COMPLETELY ALOOF AND DON’T WANT RESPONSIBILITY FOR
DON’T WANT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PANDEMIC.
THIS PANDEMIC. >> VERY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL,
>> VERY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF.
STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. I SAW YOU TRYING TO FOLLOW UP
I SAW YOU TRYING TO FOLLOW UP BUT WE COULDN’T HEAR YOU.
BUT WE COULDN’T HEAR YOU. ONE OF OUR REPORTERS SAY THE
ONE OF OUR REPORTERS SAY THE MICS GET CUT AFTER THE PRESIDENT
MICS GET CUT AFTER THE PRESIDENT DECIDES HE’S FINISHED WITH A
DECIDES HE’S FINISHED WITH A RECORDER.
RECORDER. WAS YOUR MIC CUT AFTER YOU ASKED
WAS YOUR MIC CUT AFTER YOU ASKED THE QUESTION?
THE QUESTION? >> THAT’S RIGHT.
>> THAT’S RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO ASK A FOLLOWUP
I WAS TRYING TO ASK A FOLLOWUP QUESTION BUT YOU CAN’T HEAR ME
QUESTION BUT YOU CAN’T HEAR ME BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE CUT OFF
BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE CUT OFF THE MICS.
THE MICS. >> FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE, BETH
>> FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE, BETH CAMERON ACTUALLY SERVED AS A
CAMERON ACTUALLY SERVED AS A SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR THIS OFFICE,
SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR THIS OFFICE, THE GLOBAL HEALTH AND BIO
THE GLOBAL HEALTH AND BIO DEFENSE OFFICE WROTE AN OP ED
DEFENSE OFFICE WROTE AN OP ED ABOUT THE COUNSEL BEING SHUT
ABOUT THE COUNSEL BEING SHUT DOWN.
DOWN. IT WAS TITLED RAN THE WHITE
IT WAS TITLED RAN THE WHITE HOUSE PANDEMIC OFFICE, TRUMP
HOUSE PANDEMIC OFFICE, TRUMP CLOSED IT.
CLOSED IT. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO ASSESS THE
IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO ASSESS THE FULL IMPACT OF THE 2018 DECISION
FULL IMPACT OF THE 2018 DECISION TO DISPANLDBAND AND BIOLOGICAL
TO DISPANLDBAND AND BIOLOGICAL EXPERTS REMAIN IN THE WHITE
EXPERTS REMAIN IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND OUR GOVERNMENT BUT
HOUSE AND OUR GOVERNMENT BUT IT’S CLEAR ELIMINATING THE
IT’S CLEAR ELIMINATING THE OFFICE CONTRIBUTED TO THE
OFFICE CONTRIBUTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S SLUGGISH
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S SLUGGISH DOMESTIC RESPONSE.
DOMESTIC RESPONSE. WHAT’S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING
WHAT’S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF THE OFFICE
ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF THE OFFICE TODAY IS IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET
TODAY IS IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS
UP BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS EPIDEMIC MADE THE NEED CLEAR.
EPIDEMIC MADE THE NEED CLEAR. PANDEMIC THREATS MAY NOT ARISE
PANDEMIC THREATS MAY NOT ARISE EVERY YEAR BUT THE WHITE HOUSE
EVERY YEAR BUT THE WHITE HOUSE SHOULD CONSTANTLY PREPARE FOR
SHOULD CONSTANTLY PREPARE FOR THEM.
THEM. WE CAN’T AFFORD FOR THEM TO
WE CAN’T AFFORD FOR THEM TO WASTE TIME RELEARNING OLD
WASTE TIME RELEARNING OLD LESSONS THEY SHOULD BE INVITING
LESSONS THEY SHOULD BE INVITING AND ACTING.
AND ACTING. I WANT TO ASK YOU, DOCTOR, EYE
I WANT TO ASK YOU, DOCTOR, EYE IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAD
IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AN OFFICE IN PLACE WHOSE
AN OFFICE IN PLACE WHOSE SPECIALTY WAS DEALING WITH
SPECIALTY WAS DEALING WITH PANDEMICS?
PANDEMICS? WHY MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF
WHY MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF WE HAD THAT?
WE HAD THAT? >> I’M NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU GOT
>> I’M NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU GOT THE NAME PERFECT.
THE NAME PERFECT. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> THIS TEAM WITHIN THE NATIONAL
>> THIS TEAM WITHIN THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL PLAYED AN
SECURITY COUNSEL PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE.
IMPORTANT ROLE. I WORKED WITH A GROUP OF
I WORKED WITH A GROUP OF EXTERNAL SCIENTISTS ADVISING THE
EXTERNAL SCIENTISTS ADVISING THE PRESIDENT DURING THAT EPIDEMIC
PRESIDENT DURING THAT EPIDEMIC AND THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF THAT
AND THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF THAT IS TO HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO
IS TO HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING THE PRESIDENT
ARE GIVING THE PRESIDENT CREDIBLE, SCIENTIFIC ADVICE
CREDIBLE, SCIENTIFIC ADVICE ABOUT AN OUTBREAK AS IT EMERGES
ABOUT AN OUTBREAK AS IT EMERGES AND MONITORING THIS SITUATION
AND MONITORING THIS SITUATION ABROAD, WHO CAN BE ANTICIPATING
ABROAD, WHO CAN BE ANTICIPATING THAT IMPACT AS IT COMES TO
THAT IMPACT AS IT COMES TO AMERICAN SOIL.
AMERICAN SOIL. NOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE
NOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND HOW PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT AND HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS CRISIS IS
TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS CRISIS IS THAT HE HAS TRIED TO IGNORE
THAT HE HAS TRIED TO IGNORE ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS AND HIS OWN
ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS AND HIS OWN ADVISORS, NOT WITH STANDING NOT
ADVISORS, NOT WITH STANDING NOT HAVING THIS TEAM IN PLACE.
HAVING THIS TEAM IN PLACE. AND SIX WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE
AND SIX WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE FIRST CASE WAS IDENTIFIED IN
FIRST CASE WAS IDENTIFIED IN LATE JANUARY IN THE U.S., HE
LATE JANUARY IN THE U.S., HE WANTED TO DENY THAT THIS WOULD
WANTED TO DENY THAT THIS WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
BE A PROBLEM. HE REASSURED THE PUBLIC SAYING
HE REASSURED THE PUBLIC SAYING THIS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
THIS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. IT’S ONLY ONE PERSON.
IT’S ONLY ONE PERSON. HE DID NOT DO WHAT WAS NECESSARY
HE DID NOT DO WHAT WAS NECESSARY TO DEPLOY TESTING ACROSS THE
TO DEPLOY TESTING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND WHAT WE KNOW
UNITED STATES AND WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS IS
ABOUT PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS IS THAT TIMING IS CRITICAL.
THAT TIMING IS CRITICAL. BECAUSE OUTBREAKS GROW
BECAUSE OUTBREAKS GROW EXPONENTIALLY.
EXPONENTIALLY. SO IN THE SIX WEEKS WHERE THERE
SO IN THE SIX WEEKS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN INACTION ON THE PART OF
HAS BEEN INACTION ON THE PART OF THE WHITE HOUSE, WE HAVE BAKED
THE WHITE HOUSE, WE HAVE BAKED IN A SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS IN THE
IN A SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS IN THE UNITED STATES WITHIN OUR
UNITED STATES WITHIN OUR BORDERS, COMMUNITY SPREAD WITHIN
BORDERS, COMMUNITY SPREAD WITHIN COMMUNITIES LIKE SEATTLE, LIKE
COMMUNITIES LIKE SEATTLE, LIKE BOSTON, LIKE NEW YORK THAT CAN’T
BOSTON, LIKE NEW YORK THAT CAN’T BE PUT BACK IN THE BAG.
BE PUT BACK IN THE BAG. THAT SAID, WHAT THE PRESIDENT
THAT SAID, WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID TODAY, I THINK, FOR THE
DID TODAY, I THINK, FOR THE FIRST TIME SHOWED HE’S TAKING
FIRST TIME SHOWED HE’S TAKING THIS CRISIS SERIOUSLY.
THIS CRISIS SERIOUSLY. AND I DO THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT
AND I DO THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT ABOUT WHAT HE ANNOUNCED TODAY IN
ABOUT WHAT HE ANNOUNCED TODAY IN THE NATIONAL -- IN DECLARING A
THE NATIONAL -- IN DECLARING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS THAT HE’S
NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS THAT HE’S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE ABOUT $50 BILLION TOWARDS
ABOUT $50 BILLION TOWARDS BUILDING CAPACITY AND STATE AND
BUILDING CAPACITY AND STATE AND LOCAL HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE
LOCAL HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE FACILITIES SO THAT THERE CAN BE
FACILITIES SO THAT THERE CAN BE ENOUGH HOSPITAL BEDS FOR AS THIS