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HOUR AND MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST AND WHO HAS SERVED AS ANNED A

AND WHO HAS SERVED AS ANNED A VIE

VIE -- THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING

-- THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

HERE. YOUR QUESTION TO DONALD TRUMP

YOUR QUESTION TO DONALD TRUMP WAS DISMISSED AS A NASTY

WAS DISMISSED AS A NASTY QUESTION.

QUESTION. I WISH SOMEONE ELSE FOLLOWED UP

I WISH SOMEONE ELSE FOLLOWED UP ON IT, BUT CAN YOU JUST FROM THE

ON IT, BUT CAN YOU JUST FROM THE REPORTING STANDPOINT CONFIRM FOR

REPORTING STANDPOINT CONFIRM FOR US WHO IS IT THAT GOT RID OF

US WHO IS IT THAT GOT RID OF THIS OFFICE BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP

THIS OFFICE BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.

SAYS HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAD

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAD THIS OFFICE SET UP AFTER THE

THIS OFFICE SET UP AFTER THE EBOLA CRISIS AND HAD PEOPLE

EBOLA CRISIS AND HAD PEOPLE LOOKING AT MONITORING PANDEMICS

LOOKING AT MONITORING PANDEMICS AND LOOKING FOR SARS OR POLL

AND LOOKING FOR SARS OR POLL OWE.

OWE. PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT ELECTED AND

PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT ELECTED AND KEPT IT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS

KEPT IT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS AND AROUND 2018, HE DECIDED HE

AND AROUND 2018, HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO DISBAND IT AND WHAT

WANTED TO DISBAND IT AND WHAT YOU SAW WAS HEALTH OFFICIALS,

YOU SAW WAS HEALTH OFFICIALS, TOP HEALTH OFFICIALS WHO ARE

TOP HEALTH OFFICIALS WHO ARE EXPERTS ON THINGS LIKE VIRUSES

EXPERTS ON THINGS LIKE VIRUSES THAT ARE SPREADING VERY QUICKLY,

THAT ARE SPREADING VERY QUICKLY, THEY LEFT ADMINISTRATION

THEY LEFT ADMINISTRATION ABRUPTLY.

ABRUPTLY. THAT WAS THEN -- THAT GROUP WAS

THAT WAS THEN -- THAT GROUP WAS THEN DISBANDED AND IT WAS NEVER,

THEN DISBANDED AND IT WAS NEVER, EVER BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER.

EVER BROUGHT BACK TOGETHER. THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY THAT WAS

THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY THAT WAS REPLACED THE DEAL WITH

REPLACED THE DEAL WITH PANDEMICS.

PANDEMICS. WHAT YOU SAW WAS THE PRESIDENT

WHAT YOU SAW WAS THE PRESIDENT SAY WE HAD TO SAVE MONEY AND

SAY WE HAD TO SAVE MONEY AND THATS WHY WE HAD TO GET RID OF

THATS WHY WE HAD TO GET RID OF THIS GROUP AND TODAY, WHEN I WAS

THIS GROUP AND TODAY, WHEN I WAS PRESSING HIM ON WHY THAT

PRESSING HIM ON WHY THAT HAPPENED, WHICH OF COURSE, THIS

HAPPENED, WHICH OF COURSE, THIS HAPPENED UNDER HIS

HAPPENED UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION, JOHN BOLTON, THE

ADMINISTRATION, JOHN BOLTON, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND COUNSEL KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT

COUNSEL KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT WHICH OF COURSE IS STUNNING

WHICH OF COURSE IS STUNNING GIVEN THE FACT IF HES TELLING

GIVEN THE FACT IF HES TELLING THE TRUTH, THE PRESIDENT MEANS

THE TRUTH, THE PRESIDENT MEANS HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON

HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND IF HE

IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND IF HE ISNT TELLING THE TRUTH, WHICH

ISNT TELLING THE TRUTH, WHICH SEEMS MORE LIKELY AT THIS POINT,

SEEMS MORE LIKELY AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT SAYING

YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT SAYING WELL, IM COMPLETELY ALOOF AND

WELL, IM COMPLETELY ALOOF AND DONT WANT RESPONSIBILITY FOR

DONT WANT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PANDEMIC.

THIS PANDEMIC. >> VERY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL,

>> VERY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF.

STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. I SAW YOU TRYING TO FOLLOW UP

I SAW YOU TRYING TO FOLLOW UP BUT WE COULDNT HEAR YOU.

BUT WE COULDNT HEAR YOU. ONE OF OUR REPORTERS SAY THE

ONE OF OUR REPORTERS SAY THE MICS GET CUT AFTER THE PRESIDENT

MICS GET CUT AFTER THE PRESIDENT DECIDES HES FINISHED WITH A

DECIDES HES FINISHED WITH A RECORDER.

RECORDER. WAS YOUR MIC CUT AFTER YOU ASKED

WAS YOUR MIC CUT AFTER YOU ASKED THE QUESTION?

THE QUESTION? >> THATS RIGHT.

>> THATS RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO ASK A FOLLOWUP

I WAS TRYING TO ASK A FOLLOWUP QUESTION BUT YOU CANT HEAR ME

QUESTION BUT YOU CANT HEAR ME BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE CUT OFF

BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE CUT OFF THE MICS.

THE MICS. >> FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE, BETH

>> FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE, BETH CAMERON ACTUALLY SERVED AS A

CAMERON ACTUALLY SERVED AS A SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR THIS OFFICE,

SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR THIS OFFICE, THE GLOBAL HEALTH AND BIO

THE GLOBAL HEALTH AND BIO DEFENSE OFFICE WROTE AN OP ED

DEFENSE OFFICE WROTE AN OP ED ABOUT THE COUNSEL BEING SHUT

ABOUT THE COUNSEL BEING SHUT DOWN.

DOWN. IT WAS TITLED RAN THE WHITE

IT WAS TITLED RAN THE WHITE HOUSE PANDEMIC OFFICE, TRUMP

HOUSE PANDEMIC OFFICE, TRUMP CLOSED IT.

CLOSED IT. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO ASSESS THE

ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO ASSESS THE FULL IMPACT OF THE 2018 DECISION

FULL IMPACT OF THE 2018 DECISION TO DISPANLDBAND AND BIOLOGICAL

TO DISPANLDBAND AND BIOLOGICAL EXPERTS REMAIN IN THE WHITE

EXPERTS REMAIN IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND OUR GOVERNMENT BUT

HOUSE AND OUR GOVERNMENT BUT ITS CLEAR ELIMINATING THE

ITS CLEAR ELIMINATING THE OFFICE CONTRIBUTED TO THE

OFFICE CONTRIBUTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS SLUGGISH

FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS SLUGGISH DOMESTIC RESPONSE.

DOMESTIC RESPONSE. WHATS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING

WHATS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF THE OFFICE

ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF THE OFFICE TODAY IS IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET

TODAY IS IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS

UP BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS EPIDEMIC MADE THE NEED CLEAR.

EPIDEMIC MADE THE NEED CLEAR. PANDEMIC THREATS MAY NOT ARISE

PANDEMIC THREATS MAY NOT ARISE EVERY YEAR BUT THE WHITE HOUSE

EVERY YEAR BUT THE WHITE HOUSE SHOULD CONSTANTLY PREPARE FOR

SHOULD CONSTANTLY PREPARE FOR THEM.

THEM. WE CANT AFFORD FOR THEM TO

WE CANT AFFORD FOR THEM TO WASTE TIME RELEARNING OLD

WASTE TIME RELEARNING OLD LESSONS THEY SHOULD BE INVITING

LESSONS THEY SHOULD BE INVITING AND ACTING.

AND ACTING. I WANT TO ASK YOU, DOCTOR, EYE

I WANT TO ASK YOU, DOCTOR, EYE IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAD

IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AN OFFICE IN PLACE WHOSE

AN OFFICE IN PLACE WHOSE SPECIALTY WAS DEALING WITH

SPECIALTY WAS DEALING WITH PANDEMICS?

PANDEMICS? WHY MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF

WHY MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF WE HAD THAT?

WE HAD THAT? >> IM NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU GOT

>> IM NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU GOT THE NAME PERFECT.

THE NAME PERFECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THIS TEAM WITHIN THE NATIONAL

>> THIS TEAM WITHIN THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL PLAYED AN

SECURITY COUNSEL PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

IMPORTANT ROLE. I WORKED WITH A GROUP OF

I WORKED WITH A GROUP OF EXTERNAL SCIENTISTS ADVISING THE

EXTERNAL SCIENTISTS ADVISING THE PRESIDENT DURING THAT EPIDEMIC

PRESIDENT DURING THAT EPIDEMIC AND THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF THAT

AND THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF THAT IS TO HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO

IS TO HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING THE PRESIDENT

ARE GIVING THE PRESIDENT CREDIBLE, SCIENTIFIC ADVICE

CREDIBLE, SCIENTIFIC ADVICE ABOUT AN OUTBREAK AS IT EMERGES

ABOUT AN OUTBREAK AS IT EMERGES AND MONITORING THIS SITUATION

AND MONITORING THIS SITUATION ABROAD, WHO CAN BE ANTICIPATING

ABROAD, WHO CAN BE ANTICIPATING THAT IMPACT AS IT COMES TO

THAT IMPACT AS IT COMES TO AMERICAN SOIL.

AMERICAN SOIL. NOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE

NOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND HOW PRESIDENT

PRESIDENT AND HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS CRISIS IS

TRUMP HAS HANDLED THIS CRISIS IS THAT HE HAS TRIED TO IGNORE

THAT HE HAS TRIED TO IGNORE ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS AND HIS OWN

ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS AND HIS OWN ADVISORS, NOT WITH STANDING NOT

ADVISORS, NOT WITH STANDING NOT HAVING THIS TEAM IN PLACE.

HAVING THIS TEAM IN PLACE. AND SIX WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE

AND SIX WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE FIRST CASE WAS IDENTIFIED IN

FIRST CASE WAS IDENTIFIED IN LATE JANUARY IN THE U.S., HE

LATE JANUARY IN THE U.S., HE WANTED TO DENY THAT THIS WOULD

WANTED TO DENY THAT THIS WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

BE A PROBLEM. HE REASSURED THE PUBLIC SAYING

HE REASSURED THE PUBLIC SAYING THIS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

THIS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. ITS ONLY ONE PERSON.

ITS ONLY ONE PERSON. HE DID NOT DO WHAT WAS NECESSARY

HE DID NOT DO WHAT WAS NECESSARY TO DEPLOY TESTING ACROSS THE

TO DEPLOY TESTING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND WHAT WE KNOW

UNITED STATES AND WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS IS

ABOUT PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS IS THAT TIMING IS CRITICAL.

THAT TIMING IS CRITICAL. BECAUSE OUTBREAKS GROW

BECAUSE OUTBREAKS GROW EXPONENTIALLY.

EXPONENTIALLY. SO IN THE SIX WEEKS WHERE THERE

SO IN THE SIX WEEKS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN INACTION ON THE PART OF

HAS BEEN INACTION ON THE PART OF THE WHITE HOUSE, WE HAVE BAKED

THE WHITE HOUSE, WE HAVE BAKED IN A SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS IN THE

IN A SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS IN THE UNITED STATES WITHIN OUR

UNITED STATES WITHIN OUR BORDERS, COMMUNITY SPREAD WITHIN

BORDERS, COMMUNITY SPREAD WITHIN COMMUNITIES LIKE SEATTLE, LIKE

COMMUNITIES LIKE SEATTLE, LIKE BOSTON, LIKE NEW YORK THAT CANT

BOSTON, LIKE NEW YORK THAT CANT BE PUT BACK IN THE BAG.

BE PUT BACK IN THE BAG. THAT SAID, WHAT THE PRESIDENT

THAT SAID, WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID TODAY, I THINK, FOR THE

DID TODAY, I THINK, FOR THE FIRST TIME SHOWED HES TAKING

FIRST TIME SHOWED HES TAKING THIS CRISIS SERIOUSLY.

THIS CRISIS SERIOUSLY. AND I DO THINK WHATS IMPORTANT

AND I DO THINK WHATS IMPORTANT ABOUT WHAT HE ANNOUNCED TODAY IN

ABOUT WHAT HE ANNOUNCED TODAY IN THE NATIONAL -- IN DECLARING A

THE NATIONAL -- IN DECLARING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS THAT HES

NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS THAT HES GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE

GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE ABOUT $50 BILLION TOWARDS

ABOUT $50 BILLION TOWARDS BUILDING CAPACITY AND STATE AND

BUILDING CAPACITY AND STATE AND LOCAL HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE

LOCAL HOSPITALS AND HEALTH CARE FACILITIES SO THAT THERE CAN BE

FACILITIES SO THAT THERE CAN BE ENOUGH HOSPITAL BEDS FOR AS THIS

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