YOU DON’T NEED TO CARE ABOUT UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. WHO CARES ABOUT UKRAINE?
WHO CARES ABOUT UKRAINE? HOW MANY CAN FIND UKRAINE ON THE
HOW MANY CAN FIND UKRAINE ON THE MAP?
MAP? WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT
WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT UKRAINE?
UKRAINE? WELL, WE SHOULD CARE AN UKRAINE.
WELL, WE SHOULD CARE AN UKRAINE. THEY’RE AN ALLY OF OURS.
THEY’RE AN ALLY OF OURS. IF IT MATTERS TO US, WE SHOULD
IF IT MATTERS TO US, WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN 1994
CARE ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN 1994 WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE UP
WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE UP THEIR NIKE COLORUCLEAR WEAPONS I
THEIR NIKE COLORUCLEAR WEAPONS I BY THE SOVIET UNION, THEY
BY THE SOVIET UNION, THEY WORRIED ABOUT PROLIFERATION.
WORRIED ABOUT PROLIFERATION. WE SAID, HEY, IF YOU GIVE THEM
WE SAID, HEY, IF YOU GIVE THEM UP BECAUSE YOU’RE WORRIED YOU
UP BECAUSE YOU’RE WORRIED YOU DON’T WANT TO BECAUSE THE
DON’T WANT TO BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS MIGHT INVADE, WE WILL
RUSSIANS MIGHT INVADE, WE WILL HELP ENSURE YOUR NATIONAL
HELP ENSURE YOUR NATIONAL INTEGRITY.
INTEGRITY. WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT. I HOPE WE CARE ABOUT THAT.
I HOPE WE CARE ABOUT THAT. I HOPE WE CARE ABOUT THAT,
I HOPE WE CARE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THEY DID GIVE THEM UP.
BECAUSE THEY DID GIVE THEM UP. YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST WHAT THEY FEARED TOOK
JUST WHAT THEY FEARED TOOK PLACE.
PLACE. THE RUSSIANS SS MOVED ACROSS THE
THE RUSSIANS SS MOVED ACROSS THE BORDER AND THEY REMAIN AN
BORDER AND THEY REMAIN AN OCCUPIED PART OF UKRAINE.
OCCUPIED PART OF UKRAINE. THAT’S THE WORD OF AMERICA WE
THAT’S THE WORD OF AMERICA WE GAVE.
GAVE. AND WE’RE BREAKING THAT WORD.
AND WE’RE BREAKING THAT WORD. WHY?
WHY? FOR HELP WITH A POLITICAL
FOR HELP WITH A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> SOMETHING WE’VE TALKED ABOUT
>> SOMETHING WE’VE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS SHOW.
ON THIS SHOW. ACTUALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF
ACTUALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AFTER THE INVASION OF
YEARS, AFTER THE INVASION OF UKRAINE, AFTER VLADIMIR PUTIN
UKRAINE, AFTER VLADIMIR PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE.
INVADED UKRAINE. I REMEMBER JEFFREY SAX AND
I REMEMBER JEFFREY SAX AND OTHERS COMING ON, RICHARD HAASS
OTHERS COMING ON, RICHARD HAASS COMING ON SAYING WE MADE A
COMING ON SAYING WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE UKRAINIANS IF
COMMITMENT TO THE UKRAINIANS IF THEY GAVE UP THEIR NUCLEAR
THEY GAVE UP THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS WE WOULD PROTECT THEIR
WEAPONS WE WOULD PROTECT THEIR BORDERS.
BORDERS. OF COURSE, WE DIDN’T TODO THAT.
OF COURSE, WE DIDN’T TODO THAT. NOW THIS PRESIDENT DECIDES,
NOW THIS PRESIDENT DECIDES, AGAIN, HE’S GOING TO WITHHOLD
AGAIN, HE’S GOING TO WITHHOLD MILITARY FUNDING UNLESS, OF
MILITARY FUNDING UNLESS, OF COURSE, THEY HELP INTERFERE WITH
COURSE, THEY HELP INTERFERE WITH AMERICAN ELECTIONS.
AMERICAN ELECTIONS. PARTICULARLY HIS ELECTION.
PARTICULARLY HIS ELECTION. I THOUGHT -- SCHIFF’S
I THOUGHT -- SCHIFF’S PERFORMANCE WAS A VIRTUOSO
PERFORMANCE WAS A VIRTUOSO PERFORMANCE YESTERDAY.
PERFORMANCE YESTERDAY. I’M SO USED TO SEEING IMMEDIATE
I’M SO USED TO SEEING IMMEDIATE ORK CREATEIMMEDIATE
ORK CREATEIMMEDIATE -- MEDIOCRITY, THIS CUTS
-- MEDIOCRITY, THIS CUTS THROUGH.
THROUGH. DOESN’T IT?
DOESN’T IT? >> AND MADE THE CASE THAT
>> AND MADE THE CASE THAT RESONATES.
RESONATES. ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME ABOUT
ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME ABOUT THE HOUSE LAYING OUT ITS CASE IS
THE HOUSE LAYING OUT ITS CASE IS THAT THE NARRATIVE IS SO CLEAR.
THAT THE NARRATIVE IS SO CLEAR. IT’S NOT HARD TO FOLLOW.
IT’S NOT HARD TO FOLLOW. THIS ISN’T ARCANE.
THIS ISN’T ARCANE. THERE’S NOT -- YES, THE
THERE’S NOT -- YES, THE OBLIGATORY REFERENCES TO FEDERAL
OBLIGATORY REFERENCES TO FEDERAL OF ’65 AND THINGS A LOT OF US
OF ’65 AND THINGS A LOT OF US HAVEN’T STUDIED THIS COLLEGE.
HAVEN’T STUDIED THIS COLLEGE. >> "HAMILTON" GOT A LOT OF RUN
>> "HAMILTON" GOT A LOT OF RUN YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. >> AND RECOGNIZED MORE AND MORE.
>> AND RECOGNIZED MORE AND MORE. BUT TO LAY OUT THIS VERY CLEAR
BUT TO LAY OUT THIS VERY CLEAR NARRATIVE OF AN ABUSE OF POWER
NARRATIVE OF AN ABUSE OF POWER SPECIFICALLY FOR PERSONAL GAIN
SPECIFICALLY FOR PERSONAL GAIN THAT ALSO INJURES THE NATIONAL
THAT ALSO INJURES THE NATIONAL SECURITY AND PUTS A FRIEND AT
SECURITY AND PUTS A FRIEND AT RISK AT THE HANDS OF THE
RISK AT THE HANDS OF THE RUSSIANS.
RUSSIANS. I THINK THIS REALLY DROVE HOME
I THINK THIS REALLY DROVE HOME THE CASE.
THE CASE. AND I’M WONDERING NOW IF
AND I’M WONDERING NOW IF McCONNELL’S, THE -- THE
McCONNELL’S, THE -- THE SENATE -- THE REPUBLICAN
SENATE -- THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS BEFORE HIM THAT SAID
SENATORS BEFORE HIM THAT SAID WE’RE GOING TO SWEEP THIS THING
WE’RE GOING TO SWEEP THIS THING AWAY AND WE DON’T REALLY WANT TO
AWAY AND WE DON’T REALLY WANT TO DO THAT, I WONDER IF THAT’S
DO THAT, I WONDER IF THAT’S STARTING TO BACKFIRE, BECAUSE IT
STARTING TO BACKFIRE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS BAD NOW.
LOOKS BAD NOW. I THINK THAT THE CASE LAID OUT
I THINK THAT THE CASE LAID OUT BY THE DEMOCRATS WAS SO STRONG
BY THE DEMOCRATS WAS SO STRONG THAT THE REPUBLICANS WHO JUST
THAT THE REPUBLICANS WHO JUST WANT TO SWEEP IT AWAY NOW I
WANT TO SWEEP IT AWAY NOW I THINK ARE HAVING TROUBLE MAKING
THINK ARE HAVING TROUBLE MAKING THAT CASE.
THAT CASE. >> BARBARA McQUADE, ADAM SCHIFF,
>> BARBARA McQUADE, ADAM SCHIFF, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR ARGUED
FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR ARGUED BEFORE MANY JURORS DID THAT
BEFORE MANY JURORS DID THAT YESTERDAY FOR SEVERAL HOURS IN
YESTERDAY FOR SEVERAL HOURS IN FRONT OF THE UNITED STATES
FRONT OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
SENATE. I COULDN’T HELP BUT THINK AS HE
I COULDN’T HELP BUT THINK AS HE LAID IT OUT VERY CLEARLY, TOM
LAID IT OUT VERY CLEARLY, TOM SAID, FROM START TO FINISH, WITH
SAID, FROM START TO FINISH, WITH EVIDENCE, WITH TESTIMONY THAT
EVIDENCE, WITH TESTIMONY THAT THEY PLAYED ON THE VIDEO SCREEN,
THEY PLAYED ON THE VIDEO SCREEN, AND TOLD A PRETTY COMPELLING AND
AND TOLD A PRETTY COMPELLING AND CLEAR STORY, IF YOU ARE A
CLEAR STORY, IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN SENATOR WHO IS
REPUBLICAN SENATOR WHO IS AGAINST THE CONVICTION OF THE
AGAINST THE CONVICTION OF THE PRESIDENT, OR ONE WHO’S
PRESIDENT, OR ONE WHO’S CONSIDERING STILL THE
CONSIDERING STILL THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU MAY CONVICT
POSSIBILITY THAT YOU MAY CONVICT THE PRESIDENT, HOW COULD YOU SIT
THE PRESIDENT, HOW COULD YOU SIT AND LISTEN TO THAT AND IGNORE
AND LISTEN TO THAT AND IGNORE THAT SOMETHING VERY CLEARLY
THAT SOMETHING VERY CLEARLY HAPPENED BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT
HAPPENED BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE AND
AND THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE AND THAT THERE WAS, IN FACT, A QUID
THAT THERE WAS, IN FACT, A QUID PRO QUO AND THAT THE PRESIDENT
PRO QUO AND THAT THE PRESIDENT DID USE CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED
DID USE CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED MONEY FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN,
MONEY FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN, HELD IT UP?
HELD IT UP? >> WELL, ADAM SCHIFF DID
>> WELL, ADAM SCHIFF DID MASTERFULLY WHAT ALL PROSECUTOR
MASTERFULLY WHAT ALL PROSECUTOR ARE TRAINED TO DO, WHICH IS, NOT
ARE TRAINED TO DO, WHICH IS, NOT JUST TO ARGUE THAT THE ELEMENTS
JUST TO ARGUE THAT THE ELEMENTS OF A STATUTE HAVE BEEN
OF A STATUTE HAVE BEEN TECHNICALLY SATISFIED BUT TO
TECHNICALLY SATISFIED BUT TO MAKE THE STORY COME TO LIFE AND
MAKE THE STORY COME TO LIFE AND EXPLAIN TO THE JURY WHY IT
EXPLAIN TO THE JURY WHY IT MATTERS.
MATTERS. PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO FEEL LIKE
PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEY’VE CONVICTED SOMEBODY JUST
THEY’VE CONVICTED SOMEBODY JUST BECAUSE, GOTCHA, THERE’S A
BECAUSE, GOTCHA, THERE’S A TECHNICAL VIOLATION HERE, BUT
TECHNICAL VIOLATION HERE, BUT THAT IT MATTERS THAT WE HAVE
THAT IT MATTERS THAT WE HAVE RULES AND LAWS FOR A REASON, AND
RULES AND LAWS FOR A REASON, AND WHAT I THOUGHT ADAM SCHIFF DID
WHAT I THOUGHT ADAM SCHIFF DID PRIX WILL WELL, WEAVING THE
PRIX WILL WELL, WEAVING THE FACTS OF THE STORY AND
FACTS OF THE STORY AND EXPLAINING WHY IT RUNS SO AFOUL
EXPLAINING WHY IT RUNS SO AFOUL OF THE VALUES WE SHARE IN
OF THE VALUES WE SHARE IN AMERICA, AND THIS MUCH MORE
AMERICA, AND THIS MUCH MORE PRESSING VALUE OF MILITARY AID
PRESSING VALUE OF MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE.
TO UKRAINE. WHY IT’S DANGEROUS TO US.
WHY IT’S DANGEROUS TO US. ADAM SCHIFF AND JASON CROW MADE
ADAM SCHIFF AND JASON CROW MADE IT WELL.
IT WELL. WE GAVE AID TO UKRAINE TO FIGHT
WE GAVE AID TO UKRAINE TO FIGHT RUSSIA HERE SO WE DON’T HAVE TO
RUSSIA HERE SO WE DON’T HAVE TO FIGHT A WAR HERE.
FIGHT A WAR HERE. IT ISN’T JUST ABOUT OUR ALLY
IT ISN’T JUST ABOUT OUR ALLY UKRAINE AND DOING WHAT WE SAID
UKRAINE AND DOING WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO, VALUING OUR
WE WOULD DO, VALUING OUR COMMITMENTS TO GET THAT KIND OF
COMMITMENTS TO GET THAT KIND OF RECIPROCITY FROM OTHER ALLIES
RECIPROCITY FROM OTHER ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD BUT PROTECTING
AROUND THE WORLD BUT PROTECTING AMERICANS, PROTECTING THE
AMERICANS, PROTECTING THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF US RIGHT
NATIONAL SECURITY OF US RIGHT HERE.
HERE. IF WE ALLOW RUSSIA TO GO