Practice English Speaking&Listening with: Question 5 - Julie Anne Genter to the Minister of Transport

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as a question that effectively accuses another member of lying.

My

My question

My question

My question is to the Minister

My question is to the Minister

My question is to the Minister of

My question is to the Minister of

My question is to the Minister of

My question is to the Minister of

what were the project's total estimated

what were the project's total estimated costs and total estimated

what were the project's total estimated costs and total estimated

estimated costs and total estimated benefits in

estimated costs and total estimated benefits in that

estimated costs and total estimated

The

The most

The most

The most recent cost benefit

The most recent cost benefit

The most recent cost benefit analysis for

The most recent cost benefit analysis for

The most recent cost benefit analysis for the East West

The most recent cost benefit analysis for the East West

analysis for the East West Link project was published in

analysis for the East West Link project was published in

project was published in December 2015 as part

project was published in December 2015 as part of

project was published in December 2015 as part of the

project was published in December 2015 as part of the detailed

2015 as part of the detailed business case for the

2015 as part of the detailed business case for the

business case for the project. The expected

business case for the project. The expected

business case for the project. The expected capital cost for

business case for the project. The expected capital cost for

expected capital cost for the project in

expected capital cost for the project in

expected capital cost for the project in 2015 dollars

expected capital cost for the project in 2015 dollars

expected capital cost for the project in 2015 dollars was

billion and the benefits of the project

billion and the benefits of the project in net

billion and the benefits of the project in net

billion and the benefits of the project in net present

billion and the benefits of the project in net present value

billion and the benefits of the project in net present value are

project in net present value are

project in net present value are

project in net present value are

project in net present value are

the detailed business case that is available

the detailed business case that is available

the detailed business case that is available on the

the detailed business case that is available on the

available on the transport agencies website. The

available on the transport agencies website. The

available on the transport agencies website. The commonly referred

available on the transport agencies website. The commonly referred

website. The commonly referred to cost figure

website. The commonly referred to cost figure

website. The commonly referred to cost figure of

website. The commonly referred to cost figure of

website. The commonly referred to

website. The commonly referred to

escalated capital cost figure which is

escalated capital cost figure which is equivalent

escalated capital cost figure which is equivalent

escalated capital cost figure which is equivalent to

escalated capital cost figure which

escalated capital cost figure which

escalated capital cost figure which

escalated capital cost figure which

unescalated cost referenced in the DW

unescalated cost referenced in the DW case. It is

unescalated cost referenced in the DW case. It is

unescalated cost referenced in the DW case. It is used

unescalated cost referenced in the DW case. It is used for

DW case. It is used for funding applications for

DW case. It is used for funding applications for

applications for subsequent faces to account

applications for subsequent faces to account

applications for subsequent faces to account for inflation.

account for inflation.

account for inflation.

I'm just waiting for a bit of silence.

I'm just waiting for a bit of silence. Supplementary

I'm just waiting for a bit of silence. Supplementary

I'm just waiting for a bit of silence. Supplementary question. Can

I'm just waiting for a bit of silence. Supplementary question. Can

silence. Supplementary question. Can he confirm that

silence. Supplementary question. Can he confirm that

silence. Supplementary question. Can he confirm that the estimated

silence. Supplementary question. Can he confirm that the estimated cost

he confirm that the estimated cost of

he confirm that the estimated cost of

he confirm that the estimated cost of the East West Link project

he confirm that the estimated cost of the East West Link project

he confirm that the estimated cost of the East West Link project has

of the East West Link project has

of the East West Link project has

of the East West Link project has

of the East West Link project has

that analysis has completed from

that analysis has completed from

that analysis has completed from

that analysis has completed from

that analysis has completed from

according to the NZ Transport

according to the NZ Transport

according to the NZ Transport

according to the NZ Transport

according to the NZ Transport

according to the NZ Transport

leave to table a memo obtained from the

leave to table a memo obtained from the NZ Transport Agency

leave to table a memo obtained from the NZ Transport Agency

the NZ Transport Agency under the Official Information Act

the NZ Transport Agency under the Official Information Act

Official Information Act showing the estimated cost of

Official Information Act showing the estimated cost of

Official Information Act showing the estimated cost of this project is

Official Information Act showing the estimated cost of this project is

estimated cost of this project is now

estimated cost of this project is

estimated cost of this project is

estimated cost of this project is

estimated cost of this project is

table that document. Is there any

table that document. Is there any

table that document. Is there any

table that document. Is there any

table that document. Is there any

table that document. Is there any

can be tabled. Wonderful. Supplementary

can be tabled. Wonderful. Supplementary question.

can be tabled. Wonderful. Supplementary question. Can

can be tabled. Wonderful. Supplementary question. Can he

can be tabled. Wonderful. Supplementary question. Can he

Supplementary question. Can he confirm that in

Supplementary question. Can he confirm that in

Supplementary question. Can he confirm that in 2015 his

Supplementary question. Can he confirm that in 2015 his

confirm that in 2015 his transport agency estimated

confirm that in 2015 his transport agency estimated

confirm that in 2015 his transport agency estimated the benefits

confirm that in 2015 his transport agency estimated the benefits of

agency estimated the benefits of the East

agency estimated the benefits of the East

agency estimated the benefits of the East West Link Project to

agency estimated the benefits of the East West Link Project to

agency estimated the benefits of the East West Link Project to be

billion so if the cost of the project

billion so if the cost of the project is now

billion so if the cost of the project is now

billion so if the cost of the

means the project will actually lose the

means the project will actually lose the

means the project will actually lose the country

means the project will actually lose

means the project will actually lose

means the project will actually lose

means the project will actually lose

wrong. I appreciate she is New Zealand's

wrong. I appreciate she is New Zealand's foremost

wrong. I appreciate she is New Zealand's foremost

Zealand's foremost transport economist but on

Zealand's foremost transport economist but on

economist but on this occasion she is wrong.

economist but on this occasion she is wrong.

economist but on this occasion she is wrong. The

economist but on this occasion she is wrong. The BCR, the

economist but on this occasion she is wrong. The BCR, the

economist but on this occasion she is wrong. The BCR, the best

is wrong. The BCR, the best estimate, is

is wrong. The BCR, the best

is wrong. The BCR, the best

is wrong. The BCR, the best

strong project to make a really strong

strong project to make a really strong difference not

strong project to make a really strong difference not

strong project to make a really strong difference not just to

strong project to make a really strong difference not just to

strong difference not just to Auckland but

strong difference not just to Auckland but

strong difference not just to Auckland but to New Zealand in

strong difference not just to Auckland but to New Zealand in

Auckland but to New Zealand in transportation terms.

Auckland but to New Zealand in transportation terms. Isn't

transportation terms. Isn't it strange that

transportation terms. Isn't it strange that

transportation terms. Isn't it strange that now

transportation terms. Isn't it strange that now the costs outweigh

transportation terms. Isn't it strange that now the costs outweigh

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits of

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits of the

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits of the project.

strange that now the costs outweigh the benefits of the project. The

the benefits of the project. The Transport Agency's own economist

the benefits of the project. The Transport Agency's own economist

Transport Agency's own economist gave

Transport Agency's own economist gave evidence last week that said

Transport Agency's own economist gave evidence last week that said

have not prepared a quantity Taitive assessment

have not prepared a quantity Taitive assessment of

have not prepared a quantity Taitive assessment of

have not prepared a quantity Taitive assessment of the economic costs

have not prepared a quantity Taitive assessment of the economic costs of

assessment of the economic costs of the project.

assessment of the economic costs of the project. Neither

assessment of the economic costs of the project. Neither have

assessment of the economic costs of the project. Neither have

assessment of the economic costs of the project. Neither have I

the project. Neither have I quantified

the project. Neither have I

the project. Neither have I

not sure what the member's asking me to

not sure what the member's asking me to say.

not sure what the member's asking me to say. I

not sure what the member's asking me to say. I appreciate

not sure what the member's asking me to say. I appreciate

not sure what the member's asking me to say. I appreciate she hates roads

not sure what the member's asking me to say. I appreciate she hates roads

to say. I appreciate she hates roads but this will be a

to say. I appreciate she hates roads but this will be a

to say. I appreciate she hates roads but this will be a great one.

Will

Will the Minister admit that

Will the Minister admit that it

Will the Minister admit that it is a double

Will the Minister admit that it is a double

Will the Minister admit that it is a double standard

Will the Minister admit that it is a double standard for

double standard for his Government to

double standard for his Government to

double standard for his Government

double standard for his Government

double standard for his Government

double standard for his Government

project with costs that outweigh the benefits

project with costs that outweigh the benefits and at

project with costs that outweigh the benefits and at

project with costs that outweigh the benefits and at the same time

project with costs that outweigh the benefits and at the same time

benefits and at the same time tell Aucklanders they

benefits and at the same time tell Aucklanders they

benefits and at the same time tell Aucklanders they have to wait 30

benefits and at the same time tell Aucklanders they have to wait 30

Aucklanders they have to wait 30 years for

Aucklanders they have to wait 30 years for

Aucklanders they have to wait 30 years for rail to

Aucklanders they have to wait 30 years for rail to

years for rail to the airport, and we don't

years for rail to the airport, and we don't

years for rail to the airport, and we don't have to money

years for rail to the airport, and we don't have to money to

years for rail to the airport, and we don't have to money to pay for

years for rail to the airport, and we don't have to money to pay for

we don't have to money to pay for critical rail freight

we don't have to money to pay for critical rail freight

we don't have to money to pay for critical rail freight projects

critical rail freight projects like the

critical rail freight projects like the

critical rail freight projects like the third main

critical rail freight projects like the third main

critical rail freight projects like the third main line

critical rail freight projects like

critical rail freight projects like

not at all. This is a Government that

not at all. This is a Government that has strong

not at all. This is a Government that has strong

that has strong infrastructure across the board whether

that has strong infrastructure across the board whether

that has strong infrastructure across the board whether it is road,

that has strong infrastructure across the board whether it is road,

across the board whether it is road, rail, public

across the board whether it is road, rail, public

rail, public transport or cycleways. I

rail, public transport or cycleways. I think

rail, public transport or cycleways. I think the double

rail, public transport or cycleways. I think the double

I think the double standard is to use

I think the double standard is to use

I think the double standard is to use roads

I think the double standard is to use roads when you hate them.

I think the double standard is to use roads when you hate them. Does

use roads when you hate them. Does the

use roads when you hate them. Does the

use roads when you hate them. Does the minister understand that

use roads when you hate them. Does the minister understand that

use roads when you hate them. Does the minister understand that unlike

the minister understand that unlike the East

the minister understand that unlike the East

the minister understand that unlike the East West Link Project rail

the minister understand that unlike the East West Link Project rail to

the East West Link Project rail to the airport and

the East West Link Project rail to the airport and

the East West Link Project rail to the airport and the third

the East West Link Project rail to the airport and the third main

the airport and the third main rail freight line will

the airport and the third main rail freight line will

the airport and the third main rail freight line will actually make

the airport and the third main rail freight line will actually make

freight line will actually make it easier for

freight line will actually make it easier for far

freight line will actually make it easier for far more people and

freight line will actually make it easier for far more people and

easier for far more people and far more freight

easier for far more people and far more freight to

easier for far more people and far more freight to travel

easier for far more people and far more freight to travel

more freight to travel through Auckland and

more freight to travel through Auckland and that

more freight to travel through Auckland and that both these

more freight to travel through Auckland and that both these

Auckland and that both these projects,

Auckland and that both these projects, the benefits

Auckland and that both these projects, the benefits

Auckland and that both these projects, the benefits far outweigh

Auckland and that both these projects, the benefits far outweigh

projects, the benefits far outweigh

projects, the benefits far outweigh

projects, the benefits far outweigh

projects, the benefits far outweigh

understand as much as New Zealand's foremost

foremost transport economist. That is

foremost transport economist. That is

foremost transport economist. That is a big acknowledgement

foremost transport economist. That is a big acknowledgement from

is a big acknowledgement from me. What

is a big acknowledgement from me. What

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I can

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I can say is we

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I can say is we

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I can say is we like, and we

is a big acknowledgement from me. What I can say is we like, and we

What I can say is we like, and we support projects across the

What I can say is we like, and we support projects across the

support projects across the board, whether

support projects across the board, whether

support projects across the board, whether it is road,

support projects across the board, whether it is road,

support projects across the board, whether it is road, rail, public

support projects across the board, whether it is road, rail, public

whether it is road, rail, public transport or cycleways.

whether it is road, rail, public transport or cycleways.

whether it is road, rail, public transport or cycleways. What is

whether it is road, rail, public transport or cycleways. What is

transport or cycleways. What is true about

transport or cycleways. What is true about the

transport or cycleways. What is true about the third main project

transport or cycleways. What is true about the third main project

about the third main project she keeps

about the third main project she keeps referring

about the third main project she keeps referring to is that

about the third main project she keeps referring to is that

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an earlier stage

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an earlier stage in

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an earlier stage in its

keeps referring to is that it is simply at an earlier stage in its

simply at an earlier stage in its investment

simply at an earlier stage in its investment process. Point

simply at an earlier stage in its investment process. Point

simply at an earlier stage in its investment process. Point of order.

simply at an earlier stage in its investment process. Point of order.

investment process. Point of order. Why is this

investment process. Point of order. Why is this

investment process. Point of order. Why is this minister allowed

investment process. Point of order. Why is this minister allowed

investment process. Point of order. Why is this minister allowed four

Why is this minister allowed four insults

Why is this minister allowed four insults in

Why is this minister allowed four insults in four

Why is this minister allowed four insults in four

Why is this minister allowed four insults in four answers whilst

Why is this minister allowed four insults in four answers whilst

insults in four answers whilst he mangles

insults in four answers whilst he mangles

insults in four answers whilst he mangles the English

insults in four answers whilst he mangles the English

mangles the English language

mangles the English language

mangles the English language

mangles the English language

the matter raised by the Hon Winston Peters.

the matter raised by the Hon Winston Peters. My job is to

the matter raised by the Hon Winston Peters. My job is to see

Peters. My job is to see the questions

Peters. My job is to see the questions

Peters. My job is to see the questions addressed for this

Peters. My job is to see the questions addressed for this

questions addressed for this House and

questions addressed for this House and the

questions addressed for this House and the public to judge the

questions addressed for this House and the public to judge the quality

and the public to judge the quality of the answer.

and the public to judge the quality of the answer. Point

and the public to judge the quality of the answer. Point of order

and the public to judge the quality of the answer. Point of order

of the answer. Point of order from Julie Anne Genter. I

of the answer. Point of order from Julie Anne Genter. I don't

Julie Anne Genter. I don't take offence at

Julie Anne Genter. I don't take offence at

Julie Anne Genter. I don't take offence at the insults. I know

Julie Anne Genter. I don't take offence at the insults. I know

offence at the insults. I know it is because

offence at the insults. I know it is because

offence at the insults. I know it is because the minister

offence at the insults. I know it is because the minister

because the minister doesn't have a good argument.

because the minister doesn't have a good argument.

good argument.

That is not a point of order. Point of

That is not a point of order. Point of order. Will this

That is not a point of order. Point of order. Will this be

of order. Will this be a point of

of order. Will this be a point of

of order. Will this be a point of

of order. Will this be a point of

metropolitan do you from the NZ Transport

metropolitan do you from the NZ Transport Agency

metropolitan do you from the NZ Transport Agency obtained

metropolitan do you from the NZ Transport Agency obtained under

metropolitan do you from the NZ Transport Agency obtained under

Transport Agency obtained under the Official Information Act

Transport Agency obtained under the Official Information Act

Official Information Act that shows rail to

Official Information Act that shows rail to

Official Information Act that shows rail to the

Official Information Act that shows rail to the airport

Official Information Act that shows

far outweigh the costs. Any

far outweigh the costs. Any

far outweigh the costs. Any

far outweigh the costs. Any

far outweigh the costs. Any

far outweigh the costs. Any

order. I seek leave to table the business

order. I seek leave to table the business case for

order. I seek leave to table the business case for

business case for the third main rail

business case for the third main rail line

business case for the third main rail line that

business case for the third main rail line that states

business case for the third main rail line that states the forecast

business case for the third main rail line that states the forecast

rail line that states the forecast benefits significantly

rail line that states the forecast benefits significantly exceed

benefits significantly exceed the expected costs. Can

benefits significantly exceed the expected costs. Can

expected costs. Can I clarify that is

expected costs. Can I clarify that is

expected costs. Can I clarify that is not publicly available.

expected costs. Can I clarify that is not publicly available. I'm

is not publicly available. I'm concerned

is not publicly available. I'm concerned

is not publicly available. I'm concerned the minister might

is not publicly available. I'm concerned the minister might try

concerned the minister might try to obstruct

concerned the minister might try to obstruct

concerned the minister might try to obstruct its release again. Order!

concerned the minister might try to obstruct its release again. Order!

obstruct its release again. Order! I've

obstruct its release again. Order! I've said

obstruct its release again. Order! I've said

obstruct its release again. Order! I've said on many

obstruct its release again. Order! I've said on many

I've said on many occasions, if you seek

I've said on many occasions, if you seek

I've said on many occasions, if you seek to table something

I've said on many occasions, if you seek to table something it

seek to table something it is your duty to have

seek to table something it is your duty to have

seek to table something it is your duty to have found out whether it

seek to table something it is your duty to have found out whether it

duty to have found out whether it is publicly available. If

duty to have found out whether it is publicly available. If

publicly available. If you can't give

publicly available. If you can't give me

publicly available. If you can't give me that assurance

publicly available. If you can't give me that assurance I

publicly available. If you can't give me that assurance I am

publicly available. If you can't give me that assurance I am

give me that assurance I am not putting

give me that assurance I am not putting

give me that assurance I am not putting the leave. Supplementary

give me that assurance I am not putting the leave. Supplementary

putting the leave. Supplementary question.

putting the leave. Supplementary question. To

putting the leave. Supplementary question. To the minister, isn't

putting the leave. Supplementary question. To the minister, isn't

putting the leave. Supplementary question. To the minister, isn't the

question. To the minister, isn't the real reason Aucklanders

question. To the minister, isn't the real reason Aucklanders

real reason Aucklanders are stuck sitting

real reason Aucklanders are stuck sitting

real reason Aucklanders are stuck sitting in traffic not because

real reason Aucklanders are stuck sitting in traffic not because rail

sitting in traffic not because rail to

sitting in traffic not because rail to

sitting in traffic not because rail to the airport or rail

sitting in traffic not because rail to the airport or rail to

sitting in traffic not because rail to the airport or rail to the

sitting in traffic not because rail to the airport or rail to the

to the airport or rail to the North Shore or third main

to the airport or rail to the North Shore or third main

to the airport or rail to the North Shore or third main rail line are

to the airport or rail to the North Shore or third main rail line are

Shore or third main rail line are too

Shore or third main rail line are too expensive but because

Shore or third main rail line are too expensive but because

Shore or third main rail line are too expensive but because his

too expensive but because his Government is wasting money

too expensive but because his Government is wasting money

Government is wasting money and wasting

Government is wasting money and wasting

Government is wasting money and wasting our

Government is wasting money and wasting our time

Government is wasting money and wasting our time

Government is wasting money and wasting our time on

wasting our time on uneconomic, billion

wasting our time on uneconomic, billion dollar

wasting our time on uneconomic, billion dollar motorway projects

wasting our time on uneconomic, billion dollar motorway projects

billion dollar motorway projects like the

billion dollar motorway projects like the

billion dollar motorway projects

billion dollar motorway projects

billion dollar motorway projects

because a lot of growth is in Auckland.

because a lot of growth is in Auckland.

because a lot of growth is in Auckland. If you take

because a lot of growth is in Auckland. If you take

because a lot of growth is in Auckland. If you take the east west

Auckland. If you take the east west project,

Auckland. If you take the east west project, this is

Auckland. If you take the east west project, this is a

Auckland. If you take the east west project, this is a project that

Auckland. If you take the east west project, this is a project that

project, this is a project that is significant,

project, this is a project that is significant,

project, this is a project that is significant, that

project, this is a project that is significant, that Auckland

significant, that Auckland Council has

significant, that Auckland Council has

significant, that Auckland Council has prioritised, that

significant, that Auckland Council has prioritised, that

significant, that Auckland Council has prioritised, that Auckland

has prioritised, that Auckland business has prioritised, not

has prioritised, that Auckland business has prioritised, not

business has prioritised, not just over a few

business has prioritised, not just over a few years

business has prioritised, not just over a few years but over a very

over a few years but over a very long

over a few years but over a very long time. When

over a few years but over a very long time. When

over a few years but over a very long time. When it is built

over a few years but over a very long time. When it is built

long time. When it is built it will make a

long time. When it is built it will make a

long time. When it is built it will make a really

long time. When it is built it will make a really significant

long time. When it is built it will make a really significant

long time. When it is built it will make a really significant difference

make a really significant difference in congestion terms not

make a really significant difference in congestion terms not just

make a really significant difference in congestion terms not just to

make a really significant difference in congestion terms not just to

in congestion terms not just to Auckland but across

in congestion terms not just to Auckland but across

Auckland but across New Zealand given its

Auckland but across New Zealand given its

Auckland but across New Zealand given its national significance.

My

My question

My question

My question is to the Minister

My question is to the Minister

My question is to the Minister for Tertiary Education,

My question is to the Minister for Tertiary Education,

Tertiary Education, Skills and

Tertiary Education, Skills and

Tertiary Education, Skills and

Tertiary Education, Skills and

investment in international education

investment in international

investment in international

Budget

Budget 2017 invests

Budget 2017 invests

The Description of Question 5 - Julie Anne Genter to the Minister of Transport