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>>> THE 2016 ELECTION WAS A

>>> THE 2016 ELECTION WAS A BANNER YEAR FOR DISINGENUOUS AND

BANNER YEAR FOR DISINGENUOUS AND DESPICABLE DISINFORMATION.

DESPICABLE DISINFORMATION. ONE OF THE MOST DISGUSTING

ONE OF THE MOST DISGUSTING EXAMPLES WAS A SPECIFIC

EXAMPLES WAS A SPECIFIC CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT SULLIED

CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT SULLIED THE MEMORY OF A MAN WHO HAD BEEN

THE MEMORY OF A MAN WHO HAD BEEN MURDERED.

MURDERED. SETH RICH WORK FOR THE DEMOCRAT

SETH RICH WORK FOR THE DEMOCRAT NATIONAL COMMITTEE IN THE VOTER

NATIONAL COMMITTEE IN THE VOTER PROTECTION DIVISION AND HE WAS

PROTECTION DIVISION AND HE WAS BY THE ACCOUNTS OF HIS FAMILY

BY THE ACCOUNTS OF HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS A GREAT GUY AND A

AND FRIENDS A GREAT GUY AND A LOYAL MEMBER OF THE DNC, BUT

LOYAL MEMBER OF THE DNC, BUT AFTER HIS MURDER, WHICH REMAINS

AFTER HIS MURDER, WHICH REMAINS THREE YEARS LATER UNSOLVED,

THREE YEARS LATER UNSOLVED, CONSPIRACY THEORISTS STARTED

CONSPIRACY THEORISTS STARTED FLOATING THE FALSE AND TOTALLY

FLOATING THE FALSE AND TOTALLY BASELESS IDEA THAT THE HACK OF

BASELESS IDEA THAT THE HACK OF THE DNC E-MAILS WAS NOT IN FACT

THE DNC E-MAILS WAS NOT IN FACT A HACK BUT WAS ACTUALLY AN

A HACK BUT WAS ACTUALLY AN INSIDE JOB, A LEAK, AND THAT

INSIDE JOB, A LEAK, AND THAT SETH RICH WAS THE SOURCE.

SETH RICH WAS THE SOURCE. IT WAS A THEORY THAT OF COURSE

IT WAS A THEORY THAT OF COURSE CONVENIENTLY PROVIDED AN

CONVENIENTLY PROVIDED AN EXCULPATORY STORY FOR THE

EXCULPATORY STORY FOR THE RUSSIANS WHO WERE, OF COURSE,

RUSSIANS WHO WERE, OF COURSE, ACTUALLY BEHIND THE DNC HACK.

ACTUALLY BEHIND THE DNC HACK. THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT

THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE SETH RICH CONSPIRACY THEORY

THE SETH RICH CONSPIRACY THEORY AND IT SLANDERED THE NAME OF A

AND IT SLANDERED THE NAME OF A MAN WHO HAD BEEN MURDERED, BUT

MAN WHO HAD BEEN MURDERED, BUT IT STARTED IN THE BOWELS OF THE

IT STARTED IN THE BOWELS OF THE INTERNET AND WORKED ITS WAY UP

INTERNET AND WORKED ITS WAY UP TO THE HIGH-PROFILE OUTLETS AND

TO THE HIGH-PROFILE OUTLETS AND TO THE WHITE HOUSE ITSELF.

TO THE WHITE HOUSE ITSELF. >> LETS START WITH THE SETH

>> LETS START WITH THE SETH RICH ISSUE, JAY, AND THE

RICH ISSUE, JAY, AND THE TIMELINE HERE.

TIMELINE HERE. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS WHOLE

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS WHOLE RUSSIA NARRATIVE WAS -- AND THE

RUSSIA NARRATIVE WAS -- AND THE LEAKS REALLY CAME FROM A DNC

LEAKS REALLY CAME FROM A DNC STAFFER AND THAT THE MEDIAS

STAFFER AND THAT THE MEDIAS BEEN WRONG FOR ALMOST A YEAR?

BEEN WRONG FOR ALMOST A YEAR? >> WELL, SEAN, THE MEDIA HAS NOT

>> WELL, SEAN, THE MEDIA HAS NOT BEEN RIGHT YET.

BEEN RIGHT YET. >> THE 27-YEAR-OLD WORKS FOR THE

>> THE 27-YEAR-OLD WORKS FOR THE DNC.

DNC. HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK,

HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK, MURDERED JUST TWO WEEKS AGO FOR

MURDERED JUST TWO WEEKS AGO FOR UNKNOWN REASONS AS HE WAS

UNKNOWN REASONS AS HE WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN

WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN WASHINGTON.

WASHINGTON. >> WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING?

>> WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? >> IM SUGGESTING THAT OUR

>> IM SUGGESTING THAT OUR SOURCES TAKE RISKS.

SOURCES TAKE RISKS. >> WERE JUST TWO MONTHS SHY OF

>> WERE JUST TWO MONTHS SHY OF THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF SETH

THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF SETH RICHS MURDER AND EVER SINCE WE

RICHS MURDER AND EVER SINCE WE LEARNED RICH WAS A DNC STAFFER,

LEARNED RICH WAS A DNC STAFFER, THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ONLINE

THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ONLINE HAVE TAKEN A LIFE OF THEIR OWN,

HAVE TAKEN A LIFE OF THEIR OWN, BUT TODAY "FOX 5" AS LEARNED

BUT TODAY "FOX 5" AS LEARNED THERE IS NEW INFORMATION THAT

THERE IS NEW INFORMATION THAT PROVES THESE THEORISTS ARE, IN

PROVES THESE THEORISTS ARE, IN FACT, RIGHT.

FACT, RIGHT. >> WE HAVE THIS VERY STRANGE

>> WE HAVE THIS VERY STRANGE STORY NOW OF THIS YOUNG MAN WHO

STORY NOW OF THIS YOUNG MAN WHO WORKED FOR THE DEMOCRATIC

WORKED FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE WHO

NATIONAL COMMITTEE WHO APPARENTLY WAS ASSASSINATED AT

APPARENTLY WAS ASSASSINATED AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING HAVING GIVEN

4:00 IN THE MORNING HAVING GIVEN WIKILEAKS SOMETHING LIKE 23,000

WIKILEAKS SOMETHING LIKE 23,000 -- IM SORRY, 53,000 EMAILS AND

-- IM SORRY, 53,000 EMAILS AND 17,000 ATTACHMENTS.

17,000 ATTACHMENTS. NOBODYS INVESTIGATING THAT.

NOBODYS INVESTIGATING THAT. >> OKAY.

>> OKAY. THATS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THATS

THATS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THATS FALSE AND BASELESS AND THAT IS

FALSE AND BASELESS AND THAT IS DRAGGING THE NAME OF THIS

DRAGGING THE NAME OF THIS MURDERED INDIVIDUAL THROUGH THE

MURDERED INDIVIDUAL THROUGH THE MUD AND RETRAUMATIZING HIS

MUD AND RETRAUMATIZING HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

FAMILY AND FRIENDS. THATS WHAT NEWT GINGRICH IS

THATS WHAT NEWT GINGRICH IS DOING THERE.

DOING THERE. AND NOW THERE IS NEW EXCLUSIVE

AND NOW THERE IS NEW EXCLUSIVE REPORTING ABOUT THE ACTUAL

REPORTING ABOUT THE ACTUAL ORIGINS OF THE SETH RICH

ORIGINS OF THE SETH RICH CONSPIRACY THEORY AND MAYBE YOU

CONSPIRACY THEORY AND MAYBE YOU CAN GUESS WHERE IT IS.

CAN GUESS WHERE IT IS. THAT REPORTING WAS BROKEN BY

THAT REPORTING WAS BROKEN BY MICHAEL ISIKOFF, CHIEF

MICHAEL ISIKOFF, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT FOR

INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT FOR YAHOO! NEWS.

YAHOO! NEWS. HOST OF THE NEW PODCAST

HOST OF THE NEW PODCAST "CONSPIRACILAND."

"CONSPIRACILAND." GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND GREAT

GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND GREAT REPORTING.

REPORTING. >> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, CHRIS.

>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, CHRIS. >> WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THIS?

>> WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THIS? >> WELL, AS YOU SUGGESTED, ITS

>> WELL, AS YOU SUGGESTED, ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A SURPRISE,

NOT THAT BIG OF A SURPRISE, ALTHOUGH NOBODY KNEW IT.

ALTHOUGH NOBODY KNEW IT. THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY,

THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, THE SVR, THEIR VERSION OF THE

THE SVR, THEIR VERSION OF THE CIA, CIRCULATES A BULLETIN THREE

CIA, CIRCULATES A BULLETIN THREE DAYS AFTER SETH RICHS DEATH

DAYS AFTER SETH RICHS DEATH SAYING HE WAS GUNNED DOWN BY A

SAYING HE WAS GUNNED DOWN BY A SQUAD OF ASSASSINS HIRED BY

SQUAD OF ASSASSINS HIRED BY HILLARY CLINTON WHILE WALKING

HILLARY CLINTON WHILE WALKING HOME AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING ON A

HOME AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING ON A SUNDAY MORNING.

SUNDAY MORNING. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE

THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS.

FOR THIS. >> NO.

>> NO. >> WHATSOEVER.

>> WHATSOEVER. THAT -- THE SAME DAY THAT THE

THAT -- THE SAME DAY THAT THE SVR CIRCULATES THIS, IT POPS UP

SVR CIRCULATES THIS, IT POPS UP ON THIS OBSCURE WEBSITE

ON THIS OBSCURE WEBSITE WHATDOESITMEAN.COM THAT IS A

WHATDOESITMEAN.COM THAT IS A STREAK FOR RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA

STREAK FOR RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA AND FROM THERE IT MIGRANTS TO

AND FROM THERE IT MIGRANTS TO 4CHAN AND REDDIT AND SOON WITHIN

4CHAN AND REDDIT AND SOON WITHIN A FEW WEEKS ROGER STONE IS ON

A FEW WEEKS ROGER STONE IS ON IT, TWEETING A PICTURE OF SETH

IT, TWEETING A PICTURE OF SETH RICH SAYING, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER

RICH SAYING, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER DEAD BODY IN THE CLINTONSWAKE.

DEAD BODY IN THE CLINTONSWAKE. FROM THEIR JULIAN ASSANGE THAT

FROM THEIR JULIAN ASSANGE THAT SAME DAY PICKS UP ON IT, THROWS

SAME DAY PICKS UP ON IT, THROWS THAT -- SUGGESTS THAT SETH RICH

THAT -- SUGGESTS THAT SETH RICH WAS HIS SOURCE.

WAS HIS SOURCE. >> WHICH, BY THE WAY, I JUST

>> WHICH, BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A

WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A PARTICULARLY DESPICABLE THING TO

PARTICULARLY DESPICABLE THING TO DO.

DO. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING THAT

>> BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING THAT THEY ALWAYS SAY, WIKILEAKS, WE

THEY ALWAYS SAY, WIKILEAKS, WE DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT

DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SOURCES.

SOURCES. EVERY REPORTER SAYS THAT.

EVERY REPORTER SAYS THAT. TO IMPLY A GUY WAS KILLED IS

TO IMPLY A GUY WAS KILLED IS YOUR SOURCE.

YOUR SOURCE. THAT IS REALLY VILE.

THAT IS REALLY VILE. >> WE TALKED TO THE DUTCH

>> WE TALKED TO THE DUTCH REPORTER WHO INTERVIEWED ASSANGE

REPORTER WHO INTERVIEWED ASSANGE AND HE WAS ASTOUNDED BY WHAT

AND HE WAS ASTOUNDED BY WHAT ASSANGE WAS SAYING.

ASSANGE WAS SAYING. THIS IS EPISODE TWO IN OUR

THIS IS EPISODE TWO IN OUR PODCAST.

PODCAST. YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THE

YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THE EXCHANGE AND THE REACTION TO

EXCHANGE AND THE REACTION TO WHAT ASSANGE WAS SAYING.

WHAT ASSANGE WAS SAYING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WAS REALLY

AND YOU KNOW WHAT WAS REALLY PARTICULARLY CYNICAL ABOUT WHAT

PARTICULARLY CYNICAL ABOUT WHAT ASSANGE WAS DOING?

ASSANGE WAS DOING? SETH RICH WAS KILLED ON JULY

SETH RICH WAS KILLED ON JULY 10th.

10th. WE KNOW FROM THE MUELLER REPORT

WE KNOW FROM THE MUELLER REPORT AND THE INDICTMENT WHEN THE GRU

AND THE INDICTMENT WHEN THE GRU ONLINE PERSONA GUCCIFER 2.0

ONLINE PERSONA GUCCIFER 2.0 SENDS THAT ARCHIVE OF EMAILS.

SENDS THAT ARCHIVE OF EMAILS. IT WAS JULY 14th.

IT WAS JULY 14th. IT WAS FOUR DAYS AFTER SETH RICH

IT WAS FOUR DAYS AFTER SETH RICH WAS DEAD.

WAS DEAD. SO ASSANGE KNEW FROM THE GET-GO

SO ASSANGE KNEW FROM THE GET-GO THAT --

THAT -- >> HE WAS LYING.

>> HE WAS LYING. >> SETH RICH COULD NOT HAVE BEEN

>> SETH RICH COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIS SOURCE.

HIS SOURCE. >> I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT MY

>> I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT MY BELOVED MAGAZINE, "THE NATION,"

BELOVED MAGAZINE, "THE NATION," THAT I WORKED AT FOR YEARS RAN

THAT I WORKED AT FOR YEARS RAN STORIES DABBLING IN THIS.

STORIES DABBLING IN THIS. THIS GOT TO LOTS OF PLACES THAT

THIS GOT TO LOTS OF PLACES THAT WERE LEFT VENUES THAT ADOPTED

WERE LEFT VENUES THAT ADOPTED IT, THERE WERE CONSERVATIVE

IT, THERE WERE CONSERVATIVE VENUES, ALL THE WAY UP TO SEAN

VENUES, ALL THE WAY UP TO SEAN HANNITY AND LOCAL NEWS STATIONS.

HANNITY AND LOCAL NEWS STATIONS. THIS WAS EVERYWHERE.

THIS WAS EVERYWHERE. >> AND WE SHOULD POINT OUT, THE

>> AND WE SHOULD POINT OUT, THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE.

TRUMP WHITE HOUSE. WE HAVE TEXT MESSAGES FROM STEVE

WE HAVE TEXT MESSAGES FROM STEVE BANNON.

BANNON. >> THIS IS CRAZY.

>> THIS IS CRAZY. >> HUGE STORY.

>> HUGE STORY. IT WAS A CONTRACT KILL,

IT WAS A CONTRACT KILL, OBVIOUSLY.

OBVIOUSLY. >> HES TEXTING A CBS JOURNALIST

>> HES TEXTING A CBS JOURNALIST SAYING THIS WAS A CONTRACT

SAYING THIS WAS A CONTRACT KILLING.

KILLING. >> YES.

>> YES. >> LIKE, THIS BECOMES -- THIS

>> LIKE, THIS BECOMES -- THIS HARKENS BACK TO THE WHITEWATER

HARKENS BACK TO THE WHITEWATER YEARS WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE HEAD

YEARS WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE HEAD OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE DAN

OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE DAN BURTON IS SHOOTING A MELON IN

BURTON IS SHOOTING A MELON IN HIS BACKYARD.

HIS BACKYARD. NO, SERIOUSLY.

NO, SERIOUSLY. >> ITS VERY SIMILAR.

>> ITS VERY SIMILAR. >> THIS IDEA THAT THE CLINTONS

>> THIS IDEA THAT THE CLINTONS ARE ON THIS, LIKE, MURDER SPREE.

ARE ON THIS, LIKE, MURDER SPREE. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. THIS WAS IN MANY WAYS THE

THIS WAS IN MANY WAYS THE CRUELLEST CONSPIRACY TO ARISE

CRUELLEST CONSPIRACY TO ARISE OUT OF THE 2016 ELECTION.

OUT OF THE 2016 ELECTION. WE TALKED TO THE PARENTS AND

WE TALKED TO THE PARENTS AND ITS HEART RENDERING WHEN YOU

ITS HEART RENDERING WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, MARY

LISTEN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, MARY RICH, THE MOTHER OF SETH RICH,

RICH, THE MOTHER OF SETH RICH, SAYS THIS IS LIKE LOSING MY SON

SAYS THIS IS LIKE LOSING MY SON ALL OVER AGAIN, WHICH SHE HAS

ALL OVER AGAIN, WHICH SHE HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO.

BEEN SUBJECTED TO. TO SEE HER SONS REPUTATION AND

TO SEE HER SONS REPUTATION AND NAME SULLIED IN THIS, YOU KNOW,

NAME SULLIED IN THIS, YOU KNOW, BIZARRE CRAZED CONSPIRACY

BIZARRE CRAZED CONSPIRACY THEORY.

THEORY. >> AND THEYVE HAD TO FIGHT

>> AND THEYVE HAD TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL.

TOOTH AND NAIL. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> I THINK THEY FILED LAWSUITS

>> I THINK THEY FILED LAWSUITS AND EVENTUALLY GOT SEAN HANNITY

AND EVENTUALLY GOT SEAN HANNITY TO APOLOGIZE AND ESSENTIALLY

TO APOLOGIZE AND ESSENTIALLY STOP PROMULGATING THIS.

STOP PROMULGATING THIS. >> I DONT KNOW IF YOU CAN CALL

>> I DONT KNOW IF YOU CAN CALL IT AN APOLOGY.

IT AN APOLOGY. HE DID SAY --

HE DID SAY -- >> HE WAS WALKING AWAY FROM IT.

>> HE WAS WALKING AWAY FROM IT. >> OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE

>> OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY, HE WAS NOT GOING TO

FAMILY, HE WAS NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE IT.

CONTINUE TO PROMOTE IT. >> AND THE ENTIRE THING WAS A

>> AND THE ENTIRE THING WAS A SEED PLANTED BY RUSSIAN

SEED PLANTED BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE?

INTELLIGENCE? >> YES.

>> YES. YES.

YES. AND THAT IS THE ASTOUNDING THING

AND THAT IS THE ASTOUNDING THING ABOUT THIS.

ABOUT THIS. >> IT IS WILD.

>> IT IS WILD. IT IS WILD.

IT IS WILD. SOMETIMES YOU THINK, LOOK, WEVE

SOMETIMES YOU THINK, LOOK, WEVE GOT ENOUGH -- WE DONT NEED THE

GOT ENOUGH -- WE DONT NEED THE RUSSIAN TO CEDE US WITH NUTTY

RUSSIAN TO CEDE US WITH NUTTY IDEAS.

IDEAS. THERE IS ENOUGH ORGANICALLY.

THERE IS ENOUGH ORGANICALLY. WE DONT NEED THEM TO CEDE US

WE DONT NEED THEM TO CEDE US WITH DIVISIONS ONLINE.

WITH DIVISIONS ONLINE. THERE IS ENOUGH ORGANICALLY.

THERE IS ENOUGH ORGANICALLY. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE, THEY STARTED

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE, THEY STARTED IT.

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