Good Evening everyone
I just want to see how many people get on.
I apologise we unfortunately deleted the previously scheduled video, accidentally
due to a lack of knowledge of the technical side of the social media.
But here I am now and the title of this live stream tonight is
Questions and Answers
We want you talk to me tonight
and tell me how you feel about this lock down mess
Good evening Stuart, Good evening Gideon
Good evening Andre, Franswa, Linda
Very welcome here
Good to see all these people here, to see how they are coming on
and taking part.
I am not going to talk for long and I am not going to take up much of your time
Clem W I feel fantastic, You know I actually feel very well
although one is aware of the heart beat
I take my blood pressure two to three times a day
just to see that it is normal and I must say to you
for 53 my pulse is constant between 63 and 68
My blood pressure is constant at 103/68, 102/66 a little low
but it is fine I have always had a fairly low blood pressure.
But Yes, I do not want to talk about my health
tonight. We are talking about the lock down
We are talking about this
business that is busy making us slaves in our own homes
making us prisoners
We who are having to look over our shoulders all
day to see that the police do not catch you smoking.
And then Bheki Cele, with his little black hat, threatens
you that if he catches you smoking in your car he is going to arrest you.
Then they are going to search your car and then they are
going to arrest the guy, who sold you the cigarettes, as well.
I try to look very logically and rationally at these things and
You know if they want to ban cigarettes as a drug
then they must say that they are banning it as a drug.
And the fact that someone cannot enjoy a glass of red wine with
his meal on a Sunday is a crisis that we do not even talk about.
I am not here tonight to venture out against these things, I am here to
to help you a little to understand the concept
of the "Boerelegioen", the Vision and the Mission
Why we are there,
What is our task, aim and function in the community. There are many questions
sometimes from people that say but you guys are far right
put on the same character as far right organizations.
You are too militant.
It is now the time for you to
ask questions that I will answer to the best of my abilities.
If Marinda will give me a pen then I can write down some of the questions
quickly because I see they are a lot of questions and
comments coming through and I am scared I will some of them.
I think the most important part
in 2020 in this lock down state
what the "Boerelegioen" must do and what our task and function is
preparation for a time of total anarchy.
I think we have seen a fair amount, in recent times,
how that which we have been warning about for the last 5 years
has started becoming a reality
And even though we
are really trying
to, within the framework of the law,
are trying to work on the side of the South
African Police Service as a second line of defense
in terms of the combating and prevention of crime.
Where we apply our help and our manpower, our own time, our own
money to help the police to make them look good at the end of the day
when violent crime in your environment
declines and disappears.
You and I have a responsibility
then compliment the Police.
But then it looks
as if a resistance has developed
against "Boere" organizations,
were they see us more and more as
And that is not true.
Marinda, I think you must write the questions down for me, because
they are running very fast and I will not keep up and
I am afraid I will miss important questions,
give them to me so that I can answer them.
It is difficult to talk and to try and answer these questions.
So this is the first one I am trying to do on the YouTube channel and
Yes it probably will not be faultless but I think we
can try to answer as many of the questions as possible
I see Gideon asks "Please explain why we have to must not pack up and leave?"
Now I am going to try and answer this question for you in broad terms
if I look at our history
We "Boere" Voortrekkers that
took in this land
did not steal land anywhere
the title deed is in the hands of descendents, 3rd or 4th generation
is centered around towns
and these towns have an origin.
It is usually a community of farmers that
got together on Sundays for a church service,
the pastor spoke to them,
and they then formed a social community and out of that
social community a town developed where schools were developed.
And later Court buildings, Magistrates Offices,
And if you look at the townships
on the outskirts of the town
it is communities that came after wards.
Normally communities that
found work in the town
and that then formed a settlement there.
So that is purely what I say, you know if you take for example the East Rand
the rich history that lies in towns like Brakpan,
towns like Benoni, Springs,
I am speaking of a place like Middelburg, there are two concentration camps
where our fore fathers
where our fore father's children lie.
At one of our concentration camps there are 90 children's graves
I actually want to use the words Afrikaner
Boere, the Afrikaans communities that developed
The English communities that
worked tooth and nail with us to build these towns up, to
build the businesses up, to establish the infrastructure.
In every town there are town fathers
that came and showed us the history
drove hard, applied their skills
to bring it about
and now we want to run away.
If the Father, if the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
could help a temporary laager at Blood River, that
was strategically placed, with a handful of "Boere"
How much more is He going to help 60 000 residents in my town Middelburg
if attacks come here of what ever nature
and I am not talking about attacks from armies of other countries.
It is unthinkable
that the Defense force and the Police
will participate in
exterminating a total white community.
It could possibly happen in one town and then I can guarantee you then
the whole American defense force, the whole NATO force will be here
to stop that.
That is the worst case scenario that you could probably think of.
The worst that I foresee that can happen is that the hungry hordes
will descend on your town
and then in that aspect threaten your safety.
Amongst these hungry hordes
there may be some with firearms and weaponry
that as private militia
are going to try
to eliminate a White community.
That we have heard
That we have heard, from within the intelligence circles, that there are definitive
plans in organizations such as the
Freedom Fighters, the EFF, the red overalls
the Halloween Pumpkins
that are planning to commit such opportunistic acts
to for example to invade a suburb like Sandton
by setting the buildings on fire to divert the attention of the security
services, to then go and behind the scenes to attack vulnerable communities.
Policemen who come out of the 80s that combated riots
in the time when PW Botha announced the State of Emergency
when the worst form of attack, revolutionary attack
took place within the country, I am not talking about the Border War that was a
that was a war on its own.
But the revolutionary attack within the country, the time when they
actually exterminated each other, when Winnie Mandela with her box of matches
starting putting tires around "Impimpi's" necks and setting them alight.
In that time it was not the Security services or the
Apartheid’s police's doing that so many Black people died
They killed their own people !!
That is what happened there.
And as a civilized society that had been protected all
those years by a very independent and strong Police force
we are actually sitting in a very vulnerable position now
to a great extent the Police are dysfunctional
when it comes to real service delivery
We look at the mentality of the soldiers on the ground
that get high
as a result of power.
The feeling of power makes them totally insane.
And they feel, they get some kind of a kick out it when they
start jerking White people around and dragging children around.
We will have to start looking at these things very objectively
and we will have to approach these sort of things very objectively
and therefore I say it is necessary that we
get all young people, resilient young people, into street platoons and train them.
We are not succeeding in our aim yet
because you see there are too many people who pulling, this way
people who are pulling that way.
This group wants to withdraw and this group say No
we will stand our ground.
Now the "Boerelegioen" is one of the groups who
say we will stand our ground, we will rather
utilize our community, there are security firms, there are neighborhood watches
Young children that
are prepared to walk the extra mile,
to be enabled to operate in teams, small teams
and when I speak of small teams, then I speak of teams
that effectively can defend their residential areas and their towns.
We saw, in the time of the riots,
how small teams of Policemen,
a section that fits into one Casspir, can control
crowds of 10 to 20 thousand violent protesters
and later drive them apart so that they decide to go home.
We have the means to do it, I believe we all have
paintball guns, we all have pellets. People laugh at me
People laugh at me when I say to them you do not need much
to control the situation.
The Police have the necessary equipment
if it comes to that then they
they must do the job in any case they are being paid for it.
They are in service of the State and you and I are the State
They are the servants of the State and if a community becomes vulnerable
and is attacked they have a responsibility.
We must hold them responsible as far as possible
and the only way we can hold them responsible is
if we operate on the right side of the law ourselves.
This concept on the right side of the law it seems to me for many people is
a very difficult concept to understand,
the law can not disappear, the law is there
it depends on your approach if you want to operate on the wrong side
of the law or if you want to operate on the right side of the law.
It is not the law of the Blacks or the law of the enemies or the law of
that. There are many laws that have been made to discriminate against us
and I believe the loving Father is going to sort them out Himself.
The 130 laws that were made to
discriminate against the White minority the loving Father will at some stage,
He will hold them responsible.
It is not for you and I to now
really concern ourselves with it except
to stay on the right side of the law
to continue existing as a civilized society.
To live peacefully and work
and to monitor the situation
and if necessary
to mobilize and to defend your area.
That is the concept on which we must prepare ourselves
that is who the "Boerelegioen" is.
Normal citizens who under the leadership of
knowledgeable military veterans, Police veterans
that are placed within residential areas, that
maintain the contact with security structures.
And that is formulated in a military rank structure
to maintain order in a time of total anarchy.
When there is really chaos in a town then the
people are going to look for the guys with the ranks
the Sergeant and the Corporal.
And those normal people going to want to get leadership and orders
and if there is a chain of command and there is command and control
it is easy to get the orders to the ground levels.
In the current situation where we now sit with
neighborhood watches and green-light patrols
it is now easy
until chaos breaks out.
This I saw on many occasions
I saw this on many occasions how people fall over each other to get to a crime scene
40, 50 bakkies trample a crime scene so that
the Police cannot follow up forensic clues or find them.
I hope that answers your question.
Stuart Walters asked "The ANC forbids us from attending
church services, what are we going to do about it?"
I think leaders must put their heads together,
Spiritual leaders, and must just make a decision.
if Checkers can be open,
Spar can be open
people go in and out there,
the protocols of the regulations are applied very stringently there.
The same can then be applied at a church,
it is not necessary that people must fill the pews, they can sit
2 seats apart so that there is a measure of social distancing.
But I see no reason why churches cannot re-open
because as far as I am concerned one of the
reasons why we are struggling to escape out of this mess
is that people cannot pray together or worship together anymore.
I think Donald Trump took up the correct
standpoint when he said it is not negotiable.
Worship is an essential service, it is part of every persons formation
to be able to pray in groups
and to worship.
So I want us to please push this one and I actually
want the Pastors and the ministers to drive it
with the Government. Take them to court
because there is no reason
why the churches
can not open in the towns.
Melinda I want to
layout this thing very practically for you
has a command structure, there is a Major or a Commandant in every town
and under the Major or the Commandant there are Captains that are appointed over
the sectors, that are responsible for talking to the sector commanders of the Police
and to also talk to the safety structures, the neighborhood
watches, the security company's reaction forces.
So that a type of Combined Operations Center is established and then
we are busy,
in every street block,
sending out people to get people onto a Whats app group
so that a network, a communications network, is established there.
We encourage people to become part of our two way radio concept in every town,
get your self a radio, go and see the commander in your town
so that he show you the correct channels how
to obtain a radio, legally obtain a radio,
and become part of the radio network in the town.
it is the responsibility of that Platoon Commander,
to within his platoon,
divide up the duties.
In other words
the people who must prepare food,
the people who must look after the children,
the attack groups,
the defense groups,
the people with hand weapons, the people
shotguns and all those type of things.
To get those things in place so long
and when attacks come it must already be practiced in
so that you can effectively defend your area.
And when there is a defense, In other words
weapon violence that is applied to you, is averted
no one can say anything about it.
That I can promise you
The Police have a responsibility to investigate that incident
the commander takes the full responsibility for the scene
and he protects his people
that did the work.
That is how it works in any conflict situation.
Then "People can not work, must put food on the table"
I think in this time in which we stay, creativity
and innovative thinking is going to
help us a lot.
I know of people who
bought sewing machines, they make masks and sell the masks as a source of income.
Many people who obtained hand sanitizers and sell them.
I think that when the
lock-down is scaled down many of the businesses will
will get the opportunity to start working again.
then all the things can carry on again.
Beloved Land asks "What will it take to get people
to wake up and to see what is busy happening?"
My brother or Sister, I don't know if you are brother or sister
will make the scales fall from people's eyes
I believe it will happen
We are already starting to
realise it in terms of the sign ups at the "Boerelegioen". We
were not very active on social media especially after my short
short set back and
it happened that
circumstances within the town, the way the Police work with people, the intimidation,
the fear which developed in people
has made them start looking for a place and I see with our sign ups
that the people sign up, they get their member numbers,
they get actively involved, they phone me and they say to me "Izak
I know I have never in my life been so fed up"
Then it is normal people
like you and I
It is not right wingers, it is not
militants, it is not extremists, it is normal guys who also just want peace.
Aah !! old Willem de Lange who is the old "Broederbonder"?
Oh man !
I just want to ask the admins to remove these guys who come here, like a virus,
to make snotty comments. You know it is a pity that there must be people like this
that can not say any thing good.
He has no
about outcomes in this country and then he comes and vomits out his nonsense here.
just take them off, don’t even try and reason with them.
To give you a short answer Beloved Land
circumstances will make people wake up. I already see it happening.
I watch you "What are we going to do if the UN steps in if
the Police get out of hand and things become uncontrollable"
We do not have to do anything
The UN is a peacekeeping force
if they come, they will come to restore order.
They will not come to target certain ethnic groups.
I foresee that there might, possibly
that the Zuma faction and the Ramaphosa faction
We do not need to do anything then.
I see Malema is shouting here on the sidelines,
with his big mouth,
the Whites are now still in the way.
I do not know what White people must do if they cannot afford their workers,
so I do not know how you take people into service
and pay them if you yourself do not have a job.
and that is inherently what is busy happening.
Gideon Smit asks "How long are we still going to take
everything we are slowly being broken and oppressed?"
I want to say one thing to you
and that is that Gold is purified by heat
Silver is purified by heat.
And the hotter it now gets
the stronger the possibility is that we at the end of the day
will successfully avert the revolution.
When I speak of the revolution then I speak of the National Democratic Revolution
that is aimed at getting rid of the White
minority, to marginalize them, to oppress them
and as Thabo Mbeki said
to ensure that there is an exodus out of the traditional
White town into the locations and squatter camps.
We have to a large extent a quarter of our people already in White squatter camps.
And I see how organizations are rising up to try and save this situation.
I see how organizations are rising up and are doing everything in their ability
to give to those people the best possible treatment, food, clothes - you name it.
And the circumstances are forcing us as a
result to move towards each other as a nation.
I see in my town there are probably about 10
organizations that are handing out food
to poor White people
people who do not have any now.
And it is not because it is poverty, it is circumstances
Can anyone of our hearts stay empty
that when a child, one of our children
Then alarm bells go off in my head,
Then I want to murder
Then I want to rise up
and do what no other person is prepared to do.
Then the realities bring healthy thinking and
logic me back to reality at the right time.
what God allowed
What we can do
is to reach out to them
and to see to each others interests
there are many people who do not have work.
Corne Conradie asks "Where and how do we get training?"
As soon as you have joined via the website girlfriend
I don't know if it is girlfriend or friend - its Corne, Corne Conradie
The man is Mr, Mr Conradie
As soon as you have via the website and you have received your
member number and you are placed on a group
you are automatically part of the training initiatives
that are taking place in the towns. So the Commanders
ensure that training takes place on a continual basis.
Out of these groups we identify young guys, strong guys
resilient guys that are prepared to do the advanced training.
Under normal circumstances we have a camp every two months
in the Outeniqua mountains in the Karoo
where we send the guys for
two weeks training and
then they come back as reaction force operators
and they then used as instructors
to teach our normal women, our normal men, our normal
elderly people a little home and hearth training,
self defense training,
a little bit of everything.
There is a little bit of shooting training,
they hold shooting days with paintball guns and such things.
It is actually more social interaction but in
the process relatively good training takes place.
real life scenarios for example are practiced
mock attacks are launched and methods are learned
how to defend against these types of attacks.
They are the things we must teach our people
the more feet we have on the ground that
know how to act
that know the immediate action drills when you are attacked.
It is like mathematical
theory that you must learn.
Definitions that you must know,
It is things that you must know by heart, that you must practice
It is not things that happen by them selves.
Most people, when they are attacked - Freeze
and they can do nothing.
That is what we teach the people, to take action immediately
To learn Immediate action drills
When an attack comes, the various forms of attacks, how they
come, when it happens, what happens and how you must act.
And then of course you become part of a network
and that is the most important you can learn to operate in teams.
Big teams, platoons, companies, battalions
but the most important is to in your residential area especially,
get training, you know
You know your residential area, you know every tree, you know every rock.
You know every person
and it is important that we take part in the project "Know your neighbor".
In the old days the neighbors visited each other, they had a braai
they knew each other, the children played together.
Now how many neighbors, people who stay next to you,
to the right, to the left, behind you, over the road
do you know?
That is the question we must ask each other
If your neighbor is English or Afrikaans,
Pink or Yellow makes no difference, I think it is important that you know him.
And that there is a network of initiatives
I mean there are angles of attack that we use to make contact with the people and
and if each one of us has received that little bit of training and information
then you can, as a leader in your residential area, make a big difference
I think we have handled quite a few questions
We have been busy for 34 minutes now and I do not think we must carry on much longer
than 45 minutes because then the video becomes too long.
"I am a veteran" Property Power
"from 6 SAI, had to hand my weapon in back then,
as a BL member where can I get a weapon again?"
My brother, go and buy yourself one at the firearm shop
and go through the processes, every firearm shop usually
has people who can help you with the competencies.
Can help you with the licensing processes
I have understood that the best process to follow
is of course is to take part in a shooting club.
Or to become involved at a shooting club so that you can
through the sport shooting regulations in the firearm
law make application for your firearm license.
I think that is the quickest way to obtain a firearm
and of course the right firearms.
That is purely for self defense.
Leon Swart asks "How are we ever going to stand together if the majority of the
"Boers" are to selfish to offer up a daily prayer
to stand together as a nation for justice?"
You see this is our whole argument
we have been trying for 3 years now to arouse a type of gradual resistance
so that the people start getting tired,
that they start becoming fed up, that they start adding their voices,
to the guys that are leading, and to offer protest.
That is who we are at the "Boerelegioen" we
walk with the "Patriote vir Minderhede"
We walk with Wessel Basson and
These are guys who are walking in front, I
mean they hung the doll up in front of Lesufi's
office so show him that - You know what you are
not going to discriminate against us White people.
Guys who are not afraid
They are not afraid to walk in front
and our aim
to make a big noise in the streets we must,
You know I have this Ram's horn,
take Ram's horns and make a big noise in the streets.
You know when the insane hordes can burn tires then we can surely blow Ram's horns
we are a little more decent than they are.
So that the world can start taking notice because the moment that
a 1000 White people
group together and gather and start
then you know what? It becomes international news
and the world sees it
and they see what is happening in South Africa.
And the Conservative part of Europe, the Conservative part of America
the Conservative part of Australia and New Zealand
and they will add their voices
But then we must have substance in that which we are protesting about
Then we must have substance in that about which we are protesting
We must not look like a bunch of radical right wingers who just want to make war
but we must display our dissatisfaction.
And I think the messages, especially if there
are a 1000 people together, that can go out
into the world
are going to mean a lot for us,
to start changing the international opinion of the White man in South Africa.
That is what must happen.
As long as the international opinion
sees the White man in South Africa as the oppressor,
see the language that we speak as the language of the oppressor
then it feeds the
National Democratic Revolution.
It feeds the drivers of the National Democratic Revolution
and that makes them strong.
We must cut off that artery of support, that artery of
sympathy that they have been cultivating for the last 25 years.
We must cut it off
and the only way in which we are going to cut it off
is if we are decent
If we maintain our dignity
but do not keep quiet.
We must protest.
often think to myself
if my town Middelburg's
60 000 Afrikaans speaking
English speaking White residents
start coming together
and we say to the municipality
you have ruled over us for long enough now.
You are stealing our tax money,
Your infrastructure development is pathetic,
Out town has gone backward in 30 years, there is no progress.
We say go!
And we march to the municipality I think that ANC mayor
will pack his things up.
Because then the residents have spoken
Then the residents have spoken
separate the traditional White residential areas, the traditional
White town from the rest is the easiest thing under the sun.
In terms of International law and that with which the ULA is now busy
with, to divide the country into a two state option, is also part of that.
It is also in accordance with International law
and in accordance with International law I think every town,
traditional historical town, has the right to do exactly the same.
But then we must have a collective body
Then we must have a collective body that can drive the process.
I hope that answers your question Leon.
Andre7910 "Why is it that what BL says and what "Suidlanders" say is so different,
it creates division and confusion?" Please explain.
I don't believe it creates confusion
You know every organization has a mission and a vision and do not think people should
concern themselves too much
with the guys who go around shouting division.
It is not to say that
the "Suidlanders" and the "Boerelegioen"
I have never made any organization the "Boerelegioen's" enemy,
there are some of the organizations that made us their enemies.
There are probably financial reasons for this, there are guys that
our vision and mission are drawing their members away.
I have never
from the side of "Boerelegioen"
gone to harvest from other groups.
It has never happened.
But the "Suidlanders
speak against the "Boerelegioen", I do not talk
against them I am the first guy who will say
that in every town there must be a Joint Operational Center
where every train of thought sits around the same table,
and they must not talk about differences,
they must talk about survival.
That is what they must talk about, they must talk about crime,
they must talk about the threat
and how every sees it, how this threat
is going to be averted.
How is it going to be averted other
than if a group of people who get into a "think tank" come up with solutions.
It must very definitely be there
in the "Boerlegioen" withdrawal exists
in a real, real situation where there is no other option.
At this stage we are evaluating each area in this country and there are areas
where there are a handful of White people that are surrounded by
a lot of black townships
with millions of Blacks
that could become a threat and it is already a threat.
Then we tell those people
try and get houses for yourselves in other areas
where there is a greater concentration of White people
so that you can get amongst your own people.
But I can tell you there where there are 10 000 or more "Boere" are together
I can not think that
can ever come a situation where 10 000 "Boere" are going to be exterminated,
where they are standing at defense and where the follow the techniques
that have been used all these years by the South
African Defense Force and the South African Police.
There is now way
that the insane hordes
can organize themselves so well that they can overpower us.
I hope that answers your question.
Marissa Reitz "What do we expect within a short time?"
I want to say to you time passes so quickly,
Marissa, that I think everyday some thing new happens
I see an escalation of
let us say
amongst the law abiding citizens
there is an enormous escalation.
Within a short time
I do not think we should expect too much except that people are going to get hungry
and that the 400 million rand from the State, that the ANC Government received,
fight this war against the Covid 19
will be used up along the way
and that we might end up in a situation where
the hungry people
will no longer be able to get food from the Government.
Then we sit in a situation where the businesses, small businesses
have already folded
and that we must try and avoid at all costs.
That is why I say it is important that there must be a collective in the town,
a collective feeling, a feeling of nationhood that develops,
a feeling of patriotism,
a feeling of nationalism,
must start originating in the towns where we reach out to our people.
If there is one thing that we will have to prevent at all costs
it is the exodus
of White people
to the locations and the settlements.
We must keep our people in their towns,
the moment that our people move out
the others will move in.
Then you sit with a situation
where our traditional, historical towns
go to ruin
sit without homes
We sit without work,
We sit without an income.
So that is the thing that we must expect and we will have to
act against attacks,
the opportunists who try
use the National Democratic Revolution to sow fear amongst us,
to make us afraid of the Police.
We are not supposed to be afraid of the Police or the Defense Force.
that mentality we will have to leave
and we will have to stand as a collective, if our people are targeted,
like that women yesterday morning who went jogging in the Cape,
then a group must immediately go to the Police station, you have every right.
So we will have to learn that as a collective, as a citizens protection
movement, if things like that happen in your town make work of it immediately.
Go and see the highest ranking Police officer in your town
and make a big fuss
and say this is not the way it works, the
Police's job is not to punish the public, the
Police's work is to protect the public and to
serve them, not to punish the innocent public
That is the message that I send to Bheki Cele,
when I make these videos, it is the message
that I send to Khetla Sithole and they take note of it.
The court judgment of Judge Fabricius was very clear yesterday
That the Police will have to
set up a protocol,
a code of conduct of how they
within the framework of the law will perform their duties
A man is willing
subject himself to the law,
but nobody is willing
to be forced
in a direction
that doe's not fit
with the actions of the Police against the public.
The Police are not there to shake the public around,
the Police are not there to intimidate the public,
the Police are not there to try and punish the public.
These are the things which we must address and we are addressing it,
I understand those
two Policemen, that group of Policemen have received written warnings
as far as I am concerned that should have been summarily
dismissed, that would have happened under my command,
they would have been shown the door
because of they way they treated that woman.
But we must push these things,
We must standup
Keep your camera ready
Record as much as you can
If you see they are antagonistic toward you making a video make a
voice recording in your pocket
and ensure that you gather the material.
You must try not to move alone, always move in teams of 2 or 3
and gather this video material
if there is an incident and you see it, go in groups and record it
and do not confront the Police there.
Confront the Command structure after the incident
and ensure that our people who end up in jail and are arrested
are assisted so that we can get them out of the jails and keep them out of the jails.
"How long can you keep the hordes away?.
It is better for us all to take a piece of land and defend it"
Fred, I am not going to argue with you
and I am also not going to get involved in a fight with you. Every person has his
view, the people who believe they can take a piece of land and defend it, its fine
I feel the piece of land that belongs to the "Boere" is in
the town where you live, it is the farms where farmers live.
Between the towns there are
hundreds of farms
that belong to farmers
the title deeds belong to them, the possess the property
rights, they have the property rights on their farms.
We have a historical right in our towns
and if that is the piece of land which we must
defend, then we defend it, that is one view.
Other guys say, No move your people away
to go and stay in a camp and to defend your ground there.
I have specific reasons why I am against it because my heart is
with the innocent citizens and the elderly in the old age homes
that you cannot move,
the people in the hospitals that you cannot move
the children in the orphanages that cannot move.
The people in the institutions that you cannot move.
I will never be able to do that,
to just leave my people and move away myself.
"Must we send the kids to school, what is your opinion?"
I think it is time the school re-open
the same goes for the churches,
places of worship are essential services,
if a Spaza shop,
that sells illegal cigarettes,
they are allowed to be open.
Education is to me a bigger essential service than,
a filling station,
maybe in one town 2 or 3 filling stations can be open,
It is not that it is impossible
but it is not ideal,
I really want everything to be open.
If I were in Donald Trump's position I would have
sent the Senate on their way and would have said
"I take the decision and I take the responsibility it is easy".
There are 300 people who died of Covid 19,
in this country,
just over 300 there about
Lets say 400.
All indications are there
that these people
are being classified as Covid 19 cases while the real
cause of death was some thing else, underlying conditions.
So it seems if you are over a certain age
and you suffer from any underlying condition,
and you die from this underlying condition
then you are certified as a Covid 19 death.
Now I ask my self the question
"How many of these just over 300 people who have died are really Covid 19 cases?"
These are the questions we have to start asking each other,
It is the transparency we would expect from a reasonable Government
"Why do you certify people who have died from a heart attacks
You certify as Covid 19 cases?"
"Why are you not transparent towards the public?"
These are the questions which I must ask myself
"Are you now forcing us now as the Government,
Are you forcing the public
to end this lock down for you?"
That is what you are doing
because there is no
under the sun
Why an oppression of innocent citizens must take place
Thier freedoms taken away from them
Thier movements restricted to such an extent
that the suicide figure has reached new heights.
Have I asked the mandate
mandate and I see there are just over 800
people have given their mandate with a thumbs up
where we said
We will walk ahead
to end this situation in this country, this lock down
because it seems to me Dlamini
thinks she is the president of the country.
Bheki Cele thinks he is Idi Amin
In my whole life I have not seen that him address a press
conference without threatening people about their cigarettes.
What a ridiculous
Minister he is.
to try and intimidate us in this manner.
I think we must send our children to school, they must open.
"Is it our duty
to as a nation
to obey wrongful or unjust laws?"
I think I have already answered that,
the basic laws, the Criminal Procedure Law and the
Common Law no one can kill these you cannot ignore
these are moral laws, these are laws that law abiding citizens must obey in any case.
These additional laws that they made to discriminate
these are not laws we must protest against,
Now I do not say we must try and overthrow the Government because they made these laws
because we will come second.
If I had an army behind me, then we would have done it long ago,
we do not have an army,
we do not have international support behind us,
we do not
international organizations and bodies that will support us in such an action
at this point in time. I believe there are reasonable
discussions and negotiations already ongoing
to see if we can not get enough support
to get rid of this Government in a legal way.
I think there are enough legal means to get rid of them
Yes, unjust laws
You disobey a regulation if you smoke in your car
Do you concern yourself over this?
Yes for the sake of the children I concern myself over this.
But if I was a smoker that bought my cigarettes at a Spaza
that is black market trading.
Now Bheki Cele comes and says in his press release
or his press conference
they have been battling for a long time now, since
the soccer world cup, with illegal cigarettes what the hell did he think?
What does he think?
If he bans legal cigarettes
Then it is logical that the black market is going to flourish
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and then on Monday night we will continue this conversation
and then we can talk a little more about the National Democratic Revolution.
I think it is very important that we all understand it,
that we all understand what the threat is
and why it is necessary to stay on the right side of the law at all costs.
The first reason is to ultimately avoid a second Harry Knoesen incident
become a strong force
while we act within the law,
and we can do it.
A good evening to each and everyone, thank you for the
participation, it was a great privilege to spend time with you.
We will do it again on Monday night.