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You may be seated.

Hello, Your Honor.

Hello.

This is the case of Brown v. Brown Overstreet.

Thank you, Jerome. Good day, everyone.

AUDIENCE: Good day.

JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Brown, you're here today,

suing your mother for $2,200 for emotional distress,

you say, she's caused you

by not knowing who your biological father is.

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Now, the court has located one possible father

and must determine

if there is enough evidence to order a paternity test.

Ms. Brown Overstreet,

you admit to making mistakes as a mother, but claim

you shouldn't be held accountable in court

for your daughter's pain.

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: You hope there's enough evidence presented today

to prove that the man in court today

is your daughter's biological father.

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: So, Ms. Brown,

how does it feel to be suing your mother?

Not as bad as it felt growing up.

JUDGE LAKE: Okay.

Like...

JUDGE LAKE: We want the truth in this courtroom.

SHANTIA BROWN: My mom was not...

She wasn't there as much as she should have been there.

I asked her on several occasions,

"Do you know who my father could be?"

My mama just said, "I don't know.

"I don't know." Every time I asked her was,

"I don't know, I don't know."

She gave me...

Actually, I have a list of men.

It's about six or seven guys.

JUDGE LAKE: Sixty-seven?

About six or seven.

I said, wait a minute, now.

(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

Okay, Jerome, please hand me this list.

Thank you.

JEROME: You're welcome.

So, she gave you six or seven names...

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Of possible fathers.

Yes, Your Honor.

Are they ranked in order of probability?

No, ma'am, they're not, Your Honor.

SHANTIA BROWN: One of 'em, we had to do a DNA test.

And it turns out he wasn't my father.

JUDGE LAKE: And is he listed on this?

Yes, ma'am...

JUDGE LAKE: Which one is he?

He's the first one.

The man in the navy?

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes.

Lee?

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, Your Honor.

Not the father, proven by a DNA test.

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, Your honor.

So...

The man, Clifton Smith, who's in our court today,

has not been tested yet?

SHANTIA BROWN: No, Your Honor.

I never knew who could be my father.

I didn't know who he could be, I didn't know who he was.

I was in and out of foster care,

on three different occasions.

Foster care wasn't so good.

You know, I had four brothers and a sister.

I didn't know where they were, they got split up, too.

SHANTIA BROWN: My grandmother got us back.

She got sick.

I had missed three months of school.

Got kicked out.

I was in alternative school, I got kicked out

because my grandma got sick and I had to take care of her.

(AUDIENCE SYMPATHIZING)

And so, what level of school did you finish, hon.

Ninth grade.

You went to the ninth grade.

Yes, ma'am.

Then you had to take care of your grandmother?

Yes, ma'am.

And take care of my brothers.

JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Brown Overstreet,

how does it feel to hear your daughter

speak with such pain in her heart?

I mean, it's difficult to even say to another mother,

but, that your daughter blames you.

I feel like my daughter hates me

because of the fact that I wasn't always there.

And I didn't have a handbook on how to be a parent.

I had my kids young,

and it was six, I have six of them.

So it wasn't like it was just one child,

I had a hard time trying to be a mother.

I didn't know how to raise my kids.

And when I lost custody of them

I tried my best to get them back, and I...

YOLINDA OVERSTREET: And I kind of gave up on myself.

I can admit that I was young and I was wild.

And I was kind of promiscuous

so I did not know who her father was.

Did you approach any of those men and say,

"I'm pregnant, and I think you're the father,"

JUDGE LAKE: or you just left them all alone?

I just left them all alone.

So, Ms. Brown, please tell the court.

What was life like without a father?

Growing up without a father in your life.

Your Honor, it was hard.

I mean, I can barely sit up and describe

how hard my life has been.

Not only without a father, without my mom.

Um...

I remember, I was about six or seven,

I had my oldest brother,

he was about three years older than me.

He taught me how to ride a bike.

He taught me how to tie my shoe.

How to spell.

He taught me, basically, everything I know.

And I admit, she did a little of some of

what she was supposed to.

But I guess she thought that giving me money

would erase all the past memories

that I had because of her.

She used to give me money all the time.

Money, money don't pay for...

SHANTIA BROWN: Money is not gonna pay for what I went through.

I was tormented as a child.

You say you were tormented.

SHANTIA BROWN: Tormented.

Living without your father...

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: And your mother.

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, Your Honor.

You say, she's caused you extreme emotional distress.

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes, Your Honor.

Tell your mother how you feel.

I feel like it's a possibility

that my life could have been better

if I knew who my dad was.

And maybe...

And maybe, he could have saved me

from everything that happened.

And maybe, I would have never went to foster care.

I'm sorry.

I never...

If he had been in my life.

I never meant for that to happen to you.

But I gave up on myself,

so I didn't even know what you were going through.

Well, when you have kids,

sometimes you have to give up on yourself

to do for your children.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

I understand that, I'm sorry.

Did you hear your mother say she was

sorry?

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Do you believe that she is?

Somewhat, I do.

I said, wait a minute, now.

(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

So, when you heard about Mr. Smith.

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: Take me to that day, when you found out about him.

Your Honor, I was working in my hometown.

And this guy just show up.

And I'm... He was staring at me.

I'm like, "Who is this guy?"

When I went and got to my managers desk, is when he tells me,

"Oh, hey, I'm your dad. You're my daughter."

JUDGE LAKE: Um-huh.

So, I ask my ma, when I get off work,

I say, "It's this guy that came up to my job."

"Mr. Smith"

I told her his name, she said,

"Oh, yeah, that might be...

SHANTIA BROWN: "There's a possibility that he is your dad."

Now, I'm 18 now, I'm grown.

Out of all these years,

why is he trying to come into my life now?

Why are you just now

telling me that it's a possibility

that he could be my father?

JUDGE LAKE: So, were you angry with your mother,

that she hadn't ever mentioned Mr. Smith's name?

Or were you angry with Mr. Smith

for trying to come and find you

after all these years?

Or both?

I was mad with both of them.

JUDGE LAKE: Well, he's here today, I'd like to hear from him.

Jerome, please escort Mr. Smith into the courtroom.

(DIRECTING MR. SMITH)

Hello, Mr. Smith.

MR. SMITH: How are you doing?

Thank you for joining us today.

Please, tell the court

about the first day you met Ms. Brown.

MR. SMITH: We go back a long time.

So, when I called her,

she was like that

she was trying to find the father of our daughter.

I said, "Wouldn't it be funny if I was the father?"

She was like, "Oh, yeah, I forgot all about you."

I'm like, "She forgot all about me?"

MR. SMITH: Then I was adding up the days.

If I have a child out there, I want to know.

So, when I pulled up,

I get out of the car and my cousin pointed her out

so I was looking at her.

And...

So she came up and I said something to her first.

And she was smiling at me

like I was trying to flirt with her or something.

So, I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, hold up here,

"I might be your father, you busy trying to flirt with me?"

JUDGE LAKE: Right.

MR. SMITH: You know, cut it out, right there.

So when I told... As soon as I told her that,

her expression just changed.

I mean, smile just wiped off her face,

now I'm getting daggers thrown at me.

MR. SMITH: Now, I told her,

I'm gonna see her tonight, that this ain't over.

And you are hopeful, you truly are hopeful...

MR. SMITH: I'm...

I love her already.

(JUDGE LAKE AND AUDIENCE SYMPATHIZING)

MR. SMITH: You know, that's my big knuckle head, I want her in my life.

And I'm sorry that I wasn't there,

but it wasn't my fault, you know.

And I was listening

to what she was saying, what she went through. (CRYING)

And it bothered me 'cause I wasn't her father to take care of her,

to do what I needed to do.

So...

That bothers me a lot.

You know, if she's my child, I should have been there.

No child should be without their parent, you know.

And it... It...

It bothers me.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

Mm...

It was a fling, when I got with her that summer.

MR. SMITH: And she had a boyfriend at the time, you know,

we got together, it was more than once.

And I went back home for the summer.

I came back for the winter vacation.

And I saw her, and I'm like,

"Wow, you look a little fat there."

She says to me...

MR. SMITH: She said, "I ain't fat, I'm pregnant."

The next thing that came out of my mouth was, "Who's the father?"

She said, "Don't worry about it, it ain't you."

So she told you it was not you.

MR. SMITH: That's it.

So that's why I didn't think nothing of it no more, you know...

I really didn't.

Because, like I said,

I tried to stand up right then and there.

MR. SMITH: I did what I did,

and I had to be a man about this whole thing

and take care of my responsibility.

And that's why I'm here. You know,

to take care of what's mine, that's all.

Good, that's good to hear.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

You stated in your court papers though,

that you have reason to have doubt.

And you just stated in court today,

that she had a boyfriend

during the time you slept with her.

Oh, yes.

Okay, my reason is

when I was 10 years old, I hurt myself really bad.

I got the picture evidence to show you.

Hurt myself really bad.

JUDGE LAKE: What happened?

Well, you know what a folding couch is? A couch that turns into a bed?

JUDGE LAKE: Yes.

Well, I was folding it back into a couch,

my underwear got hooked on a spring

and I yanked it but it went in a lot more

and my underwear just ripped everything open.

(AUDIENCE SIGHING)

Goodness.

MR. SMITH: I got...

Let me see that evidence, Jerome.

I didn't remember him.

That was the problem.

It was horrible,

so I didn't remember even having sex with him, so...

It wasn't my fault that I didn't remember.

He probably remembered it, but I didn't remember it.

JUDGE LAKE: Okay.

Wow.

MR. SMITH: Okay.

This is a photo of your genitalia.

MR. SMITH: God, Your Honor!

(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

MR. SMITH: Your Honor!

YOLINDA OVERSTREET: I know, that's funny.

JUDGE LAKE: And your concern is

that you're unable to have children

because of this injury.

That's what the doctor told me,

is when I get older I might not be able to. So...

So you were told by a medical professional

you may not be able to have children.

They said may not, it's not 100%...

JUDGE LAKE: May.

To me. Exactly.

What we need to do is to determine

whether or not a paternity test needs to be ordered,

in light of this evidence regarding your injury.

So the court has asked a medical expert

to come and share some light on this.

Jerome, will you please escort Dr. Gater into the courtroom.

JUDGE LAKE: Dr. Gater is from the Rise Men's Medical Clinic.

Go up on the witness stand.

JUDGE LAKE: And she's a board

certified family medical physician.

Hi, Dr. Gater.

DR. GATER: Hi.

Thank you so much for being with us.

So, you've reviewed the evidence in this case.

Yes.

Mr. Smith contends that he had a serious injury,

JUDGE LAKE: and a doctor told him

he may not be able to have children because of this.

We are trying to determine

whether it's even appropriate to order a DNA test.

Can you shed light on the likelihood and the injury?

I believe I can.

It's absolutely possible in my opinion for Mr. Smith,

or someone with a testicular injury

such as him to father a child.

DR. GATER: Nature often gives us two of what's important.

And here's why.

On average,

a man releases anywhere between 50 million

and a billion sperm at a time.

So if one testicle isn't functioning,

you can cut that number in half to, say, 25 million.

Fertility doesn't become an issue

until that number drops below 10 million.

So based on the numbers,

it's definitely possible

for someone with a testicular injury,

to still father a child.

As long as the swimmers are normal and healthy.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

All right.

So, in this case, you therefore

could potentially be

Ms. Brown's father.

And for this reason,

the court is going to order a DNA test.

And order you to submit to that test.

So we can get this young woman the answer she deserves.

Jerome, please escort them out of the courtroom.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

They're gonna head to the lab, immediately.

Court is adjourned, I'll see you back here.

JUDGE LAKE: We're back in session,

in the case of Brown v. Brown Overstreet.

Welcome back, everyone.

So you've submitted to the DNA test, am I correct?

MR. SMITH: Yes.

SHANTIA BROWN: Yes.

And I have the results here for you today.

Before I get to those results I have to ask you,

what your hopes are for today?

Ms. Brown?

I hope that when I leave here,

I have answers

to what I have been trying to find answers to my whole life.

I also hope that I can get back into a GED program

or any kind of program to help me get my diploma

or even my GED.

And I also...

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

I also hope to get a better communication,

you know, between me and my mom.

JUDGE LAKE: All right.

Jerome, the results please.

These results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics,

and they read as follows.

Your Honor, could I hold her hand.

Could I go...

JUDGE LAKE: Absolutely.

Thank you.

(SOFTLY) Let me come over here with you.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

In the case of Brown v. Brown Overstreet.

When it comes to 22-year-old

Shantia Brown.

It has been determined by this court...

If I have a child out there, I want to know.

When it comes to 22-year-old

Shantia Brown.

It has been determined by this court,

Mr. Smith,

you...

Are not Shantia's father.

(AUDIENCE EXPRESSING SADNESS)

JUDGE LAKE: I'm sorry.

Ms. Brown, you okay?

MS. BROWN: Um-hm.

Yes, Your Honor.

Yes, Your Honor.

How about you, Mr. Smith, I know you had hopes.

Yeah, it's all right, I still love her, it's cool.

She's still my baby, right?

You know I love you.

JUDGE LAKE: It's difficult sometimes,

when you wanna give people the result they wanna hear.

That would seem to wipe away all the pain of the past

and everything that they've been through.

JUDGE LAKE: And yet, I'm unable to do so, because the truth is absolute.

That's what it is.

Ms. Brown, as hurt as I know you are,

and as hurt as I know you've been,

I don't see any intention on the part of your mother

to cause you emotional distress.

Nor have you proven to the court

that you've suffered

any real physical damage because of this.

I truly believe she may not,

in fact, know who your father is.

And for that reason I have to deny your claim.

Judgment for the defendant.

JUDGE LAKE: Mom, you're gonna need to stick by your daughter.

Yes, Your Honor.

JUDGE LAKE: And you gonna need to jog that memory

and see if you can find out, think about it.

I always tell people,

at this point where we are now,

she's 22 years old there's no shame in your game.

If you need us, we're here.

And Ms. Brown, I'd like to see you in my chambers, okay?

Court is adjourned.

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